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lee enfield rifles - ireland

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  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Camp Perry, that's what I call a Range, I wonder if there are any Classic Springfield rifles here in Ireland.

    Sikamick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Red Renard


    Sikamick wrote: »
    Camp Perry, that's what I call a Range, I wonder if there are any Classic Springfield rifles here in Ireland.

    Sikamick
    While you wait have a chew:pac:

    WARNING
    The Lee Enfield rifle is extremely addictive. If the readers of these pages are so inclined to go out and purchase one, it will most likely lead to purchasing more. As the author of this page I cannot accept any responsibility. Please continue at your own peril.


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    WARNING
    The Lee Enfield rifle is extremely addictive. If the readers of these pages are so inclined to go out and purchase one, it will most likely lead to purchasing more. As the author of this page I cannot accept any responsibility. Please continue at your own peril.

    http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/
    [/QUOTE]

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    I can see what they mean about being addictive.

    This would be a nice rifle to have (No8 MkI Rifle in .22 Calibre), I'd say good fun on rabbits.

    It would also be a good addition to Bench-rest Rifle and not expensive to do.

    http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/sc7.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Red Renard


    G'Day folks, here once again is another fine example of the Lee Enfield full size trainer in .22LR. Any lad wanting to get started would wet themselves
    to get his hand on one of these rifles.



    arm614.jpg




    Earlier Lee Enfield rifles had been converted to .22 inch calibre for target shooting at short ranges. After World War 2 new stocks were made by converting No 4 rifles. Separate versions were made for each Armed Service. The RAF used the No 7 and the British Army had the No 8. The Royal Navy contracted the gun makers Parker Hale to convert about 3000 rifles to .22 inch as the No 9.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭dbar


    Red,
    Do I hear a hint of Oz in your accent? If a man was interested in moving out there for a while and was also interested in service rifle shooting, where would be a good place to start looking to settle?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭Traumadoc


    I lived there for 5 years, service rifle seems to be in most states, I owned a swedish mauser and an Israeli mauser, generally prices are about 200- 700 euro I saw an irish contract No 4 Mk II for 600 euro still in its original wrapping.
    ammo is very cheap compareds to here


    They also have new lee enfields( I think they are sourced from india)

    http://www.viccityarms.com.au/joomla/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=146


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Red Renard


    Traumadoc wrote: »
    I lived there for 5 years, service rifle seems to be in most states, I owned a swedish mauser and an Israeli mauser, generally prices are about 200- 700 euro I saw an irish contract No 4 Mk II for 600 euro still in its original wrapping.
    ammo is very cheap compareds to here


    They also have new lee enfields( I think they are sourced from india)

    http://www.viccityarms.com.au/joomla/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=146[/quote]


    I think you would contact the,
    Australian International Highpowered Association Inc for advice if you
    do go dbar. They have the infromation for all types of high powered rifle
    service rifle included,what clubs to join nice people so I have been told. Just a hint,watching you tube videos by jollygreensluggs helps with the
    Oz lingo, have sheila to crack open the cold tinny even better practice.

    Crack the fat at some of this cobber.

    http://www.aihpa.com/default.htm


    http://www.aihpa.com/Ranges & Maps/maps.htm


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yZYMW8GISg Learn to speak Australian


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Crack the fat, is this Australian for crackling, as in cooked Hog skin and fat

    jollygreensluggs, is this Australian for l'escargot.
    and by the way do you drink Foster's.

    Sikamick


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Am I correct in thinking the mag in .22 LEs functions as a catch cup for spents? Or is that just one model?


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Red Renard would 1 V Bull = a Castlemain 10 XXXXXXXXXX

    What your feelings on the No 8 Trainer.

    Sikamick


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Red Renard


    Sikamick wrote: »
    Red Renard would 1 V Bull = a Castlemain 10 XXXXXXXXXX

    What your feelings on the No 8 Trainer.

    Sikamick



    would 1 V Bull = a Castlemain 10 XXXXXXXXXX. If it did,it probably would
    be the best 10x in the world.

    What your feelings on the No 8 Trainer, the little stubby reminds me
    of the Ruger Mini 14, makes for a right little classic.;)

    Am I correct in thinking the mag in .22 LEs functions as a catch cup for spents? Or is that just one model? kowloon [/quote]

    Just the one model I think kowloon,the NO2 MK4 http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Red Renard is the No8 MkI Rifle still available and do you know if they can still be purchased.

    Sikamick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Red Renard


    quote=Sikamick;56920931]Red Renard is the No8 MkI Rifle still available and do you know if they can still be purchased.

    Sikamick[/quote] Try some of the classic Rifle shows over in the UK would be your best bet.
    I think the NO8 is rare and hard to find.:o

    Try Henry Krank for Vintage rifles.

    www.henrykrank.com They stock classic military rifles like the Swiss Schmidt-Rubin K31 & 1911


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Sizemore


    Red Renard wrote: »
    quote=Sikamick;56920931]Red Renard is the No8 MkI Rifle still available and do you know if they can still be purchased.

    Sikamick
    Try some of the classic Rifle shows over in the UK would be your best bet.
    I think the NO8 is rare and hard to find.:o

    Try Henry Krank for Vintage rifles.

    www.henrykrank.com They stock classic military rifles like the Swiss Schmidt-Rubin K31 & 1911[/quote]


    Can you find ammunition for the K31 here in Ireland. Keen to buy something in military rifles and a bit different to the Lee Enfield.


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Swiss Schmidt-Rubin K31 & 1911 one of our members has one.

    Michael O'Connor
    Secretary to The Vintage Classic Rifle Association of Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Reloading would really help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    So, I've decided I want to get one now.some major questions exist which I'll have to put to the forum:

    No.1 Mk.III or a No.4? If a No.4, presumably a Mk.2?

    Remind me again which shops are selling these around the place?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭dbar


    My vote goes to the No.1. I think its a beautiful rifle. When I have the money...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Red Renard


    YouTube - Lee Enfield SMLE and Mauser K98k compared
    [SIZE=-1]A visual comparison of a 1941 Lee Enfield No1 MkIII* SMLE and ...
    [/SIZE]


    http://forums.gunboards.com/search.php?searchid=130938


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Red Renard


    EnfieldDisplay-3.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Red Renard wrote: »
    EnfieldDisplay-3.jpg

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    Red Renard could you ID the one middle bottom center please. Is it Australian.


    Sikamick


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    Indian Ishapore, is my guess.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle_7.62mm_2A1


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    civdef wrote: »

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    civdef thanks for the answer to my question. The history to these classic rifles is amazing, it was one of the reasons I joined the Irish Antique Arms Society back in the seventies, history,debate,conversation and eduction that came from those meeting.

    This is an aspect of The Vintage Classic Rifle Association of Ireland that I hope will grow, it is extremely interesting to listen to the history of a particular Classic firearm whether they be Military or from some other use i.e. buffalo hunting in America with the Sharps rifle.

    On another point the Wiki link that you put in answered some of the questions
    re 7.62 interchangeability with the .308. Do you know whether they were
    ever produced with barrels for the .308 Winchester ammunition.

    Sikamick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Sizemore


    The Irish defence forces used the lee enfield did they use the german mauser.

    http://www.62infantry.com/Weapons_Equipment/Lee_Enfield_Rifle.shtml


  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Sizemore wrote: »
    The Irish defence forces used the lee enfield did they use the german mauser.

    http://www.62infantry.com/Weapons_Equipment/Lee_Enfield_Rifle.shtml


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    I reckon the one on the left of the picture is a Mauser.

    Sikamick


    http://www.digitalfilmarchive.net/dfa/browseDisplay.asp?id=99


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,025 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Would tip on a Springfield P14 in that pic,carried by nearside man.Mausers didnt have a turned in bolt,were usually a straight bolt.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users Posts: 804 ✭✭✭Sikamick


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Would tip on a Springfield P14 in that pic,carried by nearside man.Mausers didnt have a turned in bolt,were usually a straight bolt.


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    You could be right about the Springfield, I would say there were all sorts of firearms around at the time.

    I am still looking for a photo of the Free State Army which I seen some time ago, in it there are Free State Soldiers wearing what looked like German helmets and I am sure they had Mauser's.

    Sikamick


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    During the 30's, the PDF had German syle Vickers helmets (made in Birmingham of poorer steel than the originals), but always carried SMLEs. The LDF were partially issued with P-17's during the Emergency, I understand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Red Renard


    civdef wrote: »
    During the 30's, the PDF had German syle Vickers helmets (made in Birmingham of poorer steel than the originals), but always carried SMLEs. The LDF were partially issued with P-17's during the Emergency, I understand.


    Civdef, the P-17's caliber is .30-06 the P-14 .303. the British home guard had some P-17's distinguished be a red circle painted on the stock!
    are you sure the LDF used the P-17.

    The Canadian Ross 1910 MKIIIB stright pull .303 was also a possibly used by the early free state army.

    http://www.home-guard.org.uk/hg/p14.html

    http://www.angelfire.com/vt/milsurp/ross10b.html

    http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/ri7.htm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Sizemore


    Sikamick wrote: »
    ___________________________________________________________________

    You could be right about the Springfield, I would say there were all sorts of firearms around at the time.

    I am still looking for a photo of the Free State Army which I seen some time ago, in it there are Free State Soldiers wearing what looked like German helmets and I am sure they had Mauser's.

    Sikamick

    http://members.fortunecity.com/milit/VickersM1927a.htm

    Yes the free state army did use a helmet that looked like the german army
    helmet.


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