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The M50 Barrier Free Tolling Thread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭Vanbis


    I travel over the M50 toll to work 5 days a week and it's nothing short of a money racket and a disgrace. Everyone pay's motor tax in this country yet we get charged to cross this toll an others in our country. The amount of cars, etc that do cross everyday id say they make a nice lump each year. Motorbikes are still getting away with it free yet cameras have being installed. If everyone refused and stopped paying the toll it would be interesting to see what they would do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭markpb


    Vanbis wrote: »
    Everyone pay's motor tax in this country yet we get charged to cross this toll an others in our country.

    Buying out the M50 from NTR will cost €1.15bn (link)

    Upgrading the M50 cost €950m (link)

    Maintaining the road surface and other infrastructure, proving the free towaway service and lighting the M50 is another contract whose price I don't know but considering lighting alone was just shy of €1m last year, it's not a cheap contract.

    The state made €104m profit from the toll last year - that doesn't even come close to covering the costs of running the M50. If people had to pay the true costs of it, the toll would be eye watering.

    And despite the high cost of the toll, the recession and the rising unemployment numbers
    The numbers using the M50 are up despite the economic crisis.May was the busiest month for the eflow system to date, a spokesman for the NRA said last night, with tolls levied on 3.5 million vehicles in 30 days.
    (link)


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 TralalaJr


    Nothing has been reported thus far, but due to the fact that eflow control any propaganda about them I doubt any successful challenge would get any news space.

    You weren't joking...

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/drivers-run-up-50000-debt-by-refusing-to-pay-m50-toll-2959888.html
    A total of 420 people had gone to court to defend being asked to pay extra penalties, and most cases had been settled, the NRA added.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 alidxx


    Hi guys, I was away travelling for a month and came home to a solicitors letter for an unpaid toll. My father did not realise that the tag in my car was not connected to an account as it still beeps when going through the toll.. Is there a way to protest this as I have always paid all my tolls??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    alidxx wrote: »
    Hi guys, I was away travelling for a month and came home to a solicitors letter for an unpaid toll. My father did not realise that the tag in my car was not connected to an account as it still beeps when going through the toll.. Is there a way to protest this as I have always paid all my tolls??
    Protest if you wish, but I can't see it coming to fruition especially when your father had your consent to drive your car. The onus was on you to inform your father the tag was not active.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 frankmulveen


    Shield wrote: »

    Wow thanks for that PM Bond. I can't believe that didn't cross their mind when they were implementing it in the first place. The system would fall to its knees if everyone was to do that. There's just no way they can rectify that now at this stage.

    Can you please pm me too. They are looking for 456.00 euros from me for 3 journeys! frankmulveen@gmail.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    Hi guys, I was away travelling for a month and came home to a solicitors letter for an unpaid toll. My father did not realise that the tag in my car was not connected to an account as it still beeps when going through the toll.. Is there a way to protest this as I have always paid all my tolls??

    Did you close the account? Get another tag? They will probably excuse the fines if you re-establish an account for the car your Dad is using with this tag and pay all of the tolls. I'd set up the account ASAP and then negotiate over the arrears.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 GazzyWazzy


    I just got a letter from P&FG looking for 448 for 3 unpaid trips.I had tried and failed before to come to an arrangement with eflow..Said I could square up with the them next week ,but they said they could'nt wait..had to be that day.I was unemployed..and still am.I'm in penury so I can't pay what I don't have.

    Is my best bet just not worrying about it y'think?

    I mean..a trip to the slammer would'nt be the end of the world.Might make a nice change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,543 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I found them very easy to deal with re a fine for a single journey recently.
    Got a fine for 47 euros or so. Rang them and explained that I got no reminder letter and without agreement the guy put the words in my mouth that I was not used to using the road and wasnt aware of how it worked. He said if I paid 3.10 or so that he would cancel the fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 GazzyWazzy


    Thanks for replying.

    Its very reassuring to hear that I might have the chance of encountering a being capable of compassion when I phone them tomorrow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    But why didn't you pay when they were due? €9 better than jail...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    GazzyWazzy wrote: »
    I just got a letter from P&FG looking for 448 for 3 unpaid trips.I had tried and failed before to come to an arrangement with eflow..Said I could square up with the them next week ,but they said they could'nt wait..had to be that day.I was unemployed..and still am.I'm in penury so I can't pay what I don't have.

    Is my best bet just not worrying about it y'think?

    I mean..a trip to the slammer would'nt be the end of the world.Might make a nice change.

    go to the slammer, you'll be out the same day.
    you wont be there long enough to get 3 meals, let alone a shower.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 GazzyWazzy


    But why didn't you pay when they were due? €9 better than jail...

    Its a bit of a long story..but bit was'nt intentional not to pay.I forgot and yadda yadda yadda things just got on top of me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭devil-80


    Hi, is it worth it to take video account if you passing m50 about 12 times in year? Did I understand it well that i only pay 2,6€ and no other fees or set up account?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    devil-80 wrote: »
    Hi, is it worth it to take video account if you passing m50 about 12 times in year? Did I understand it well that i only pay 2,6€ and no other fees or set up account?

    Yep thats it. Worth it even if used very infrequently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭devil-80


    Thanks, is it better to take pre paid or post paid account?i think ill choose the post paid. Will the barrier open for me if i have this account or how it works?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,881 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Old thread :)

    So it's 5.5 years that the barriers are gone - feels like longer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    devil-80 wrote: »
    Thanks, is it better to take pre paid or post paid account?i think ill choose the post paid. Will the barrier open for me if i have this account or how it works?

    There is no barrier. I use post paid and my card gets charged at the end of the month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭devil-80


    Ok so i use the same fast lane are the users of toll tag yes?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    devil-80 wrote: »
    Ok so i use the same fast lane are the users of toll tag yes?

    there is no barrier on the m50 at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    devil-80 wrote: »
    Ok so i use the same fast lane are the users of toll tag yes?

    The M50 is all barrier free. No tag lanes or anything. Just a gantry with cameras


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,702 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    devil-80 wrote: »
    Ok so i use the same fast lane are the users of toll tag yes?
    there is no barrier on the m50 at all!

    Or "fast lane" :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭markpb


    R.O.R wrote: »
    Or "fast lane" :rolleyes:

    Which tends to be lane 1 because all the people doing 85 are in lane 2.
    unkel wrote: »
    Old thread :) So it's 5.5 years that the barriers are gone - feels like longer!

    Might be worth pointing out that the base price has only risen 10c in 5.5 years. I suspect that compares favorably to the other motorway tolls.


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