Mourinho making friends already

carlop

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/SerieA/Squadre/Juventus/Primo_Piano/2008/08/05/ranieri.shtml

For those who don't speak Italian, which I imagine is a large majority, Jose has already got himself into a pretty nasty war of words with his predecessor at Chelsea, Claudio Ranieri.

It kicked off when Ranieri, interviewed after Juventus lost to Hamburg in the Emirates Cup, said that unlike Mourinho, he didn't need to win every match to feel sicure about his team's ability. Mourinho responded saying that Ranieri was correct, he (Mourinho) does need to win to be sure of his team's strengths and that this was why he was won so much in his career. He then got his own dig in at Ranieri, saying that Ranieri's mentality explains why, at nearly 70 years of age, all he has won is a Supercup and another minor trophy (not sure actually which trophies Mourinho's referring to here). He also said that the Juventus manager was too old to change this mentality. Ranieri today responded by saying that Mourinho had wasted no time in demonstrating his personality and his attitude towards colleagues.

Good to see Mourinho is as entertaining as ever!

eirebhoy

Nearly 70.

Gary ITR

I miss Mourinho...

Sounds like one of those things you'd say in football manager!

gaf1983

Brilliant! A modern Brian Clough.

turly

Except Clough had more tact.

Mr Alan

turly wrote: »

Except Clough had more tact.

dont ****ing make me get sick. Clough had not an ounce of class about him whereas at last Jose is occassionally sound.

Jose is just a headcase.

I'm sure he is an alright bloke, but he is a headcase.

eZe^

If you watch that documentary on his entire career up until 06-07 you actually see he is a top bloke. Admits to all the fights being psychological nonsense, says that the game is a show, with it starting in the press room before the match, and finishing in the press room afterwards.

Mr Alan

eZe^ wrote: »

If you watch that documentary on his entire career up until 06-07 you actually see he is a top bloke. Admits to all the fights being psychological nonsense, says that the game is a show, with it starting in the press room before the match, and finishing in the press room afterwards.

I agree. although he has crossed the line a few times. his comments on Ronaldo for example.

shane86

We need him back as a regular on UK TV immeadiately. There is a certain breed of people like that. Mourinho, Dunphy, the Gallagher Brothers, Shaun Ryder, Gordon Strachan, Michael O`Leary. None of them entirely all there upstairs, and dont give a **** what anyone thinks, they speak their mind and apologise to nobody.

eZe^

shane86 wrote: »

Gordon Strachan.

I'll never forget the time sky tried to interview him after a match, and the reporter said 'Gordon, could we have a quick word' and Gordon replied, 'velocity' and ran off.. Hahahahahah....

Syke

Mr Alan wrote: »

dont ****ing make me get sick. Clough had not an ounce of class about him whereas at last Jose is occassionally sound.

Jose is just a headcase.

I'm sure he is an alright bloke, but he is a headcase.

I'm not bothered either way by Mourinho, but to say that Clough hadn't an ounce of class is one of the most stupid and ignorant things I've ever seen posted in this forum.

This is a man that spent time picketing with miners who supported clubs he managed when they were being mistreated, a man who was a member of the Anti-Nazi league and raised funds for them and a man who donated large sums of money to local trade unions (again in towns where he managed). Ok, he was a socialist, but he almost always stood up for the common man when he had no need. And this was an era where managers would not have much money.

Apart from anything, you're talking about a man who was controversial in his confidence, but most of his notoriety was because he stood up for issues he believed in. He alienated Leeds players because he didn't like the way they played (which was very physical and rough). He was a firm believer in the beautiful game and a gentleman's game.

Contrast this to the person who makes his comments purely to upset opponents and who made claims to try and influence games (about officials) and who caused a referee to receive death threats due to comments that were later shown to be untrue. And you say Clough had no class?

As I said, most stupid post ever.

shane86

eZe^ wrote: »

I'll never forget the time sky tried to interview him after a match, and the reporter said 'Gordon, could we have a quick word' and Gordon replied, 'velocity' and ran off.. Hahahahahah....

And the rest

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2004/t-strachan-quotes-p1.php

The yoghurt one is classic


http://www.jokefile.co.uk/numerical_order/1023.html

Gazza being another ll say and do what I like character. Sport and life in general would be emptier without them.

mayordenis

I think he is an absolute legend, and one of football's true geniuses,
and from what I can tell is actually a very nice guy, but takes the media side of things to an extreme where he is happy to be hated as long as he gets results, I would expect him to be the most celebrated manger of all time when he's finished.

turly

Mr Alan wrote: »

dont ****ing make me get sick. Clough had not an ounce of class about him

New to this sarcasm thing, are we?

Mr Alan

Syke wrote: »

I'm not bothered either way by Mourinho, but to say that Clough hadn't an ounce of class is one of the most stupid and ignorant things I've ever seen posted in this forum.

This is a man that spent time picketing with miners who supported clubs he managed when they were being mistreated, a man who was a member of the Anti-Nazi league and raised funds for them and a man who donated large sums of money to local trade unions (again in towns where he managed). Ok, he was a socialist, but he almost always stood up for the common man when he had no need. And this was an era where managers would not have much money.

Apart from anything, you're talking about a man who was controversial in his confidence, but most of his notoriety was because he stood up for issues he believed in. He alienated Leeds players because he didn't like the way they played (which was very physical and rough). He was a firm believer in the beautiful game and a gentleman's game.

Contrast this to the person who makes his comments purely to upset opponents and who made claims to try and influence games (about officials) and who caused a referee to receive death threats due to comments that were later shown to be untrue. And you say Clough had no class?

As I said, most stupid post ever.

I respect your right to an opinion, but I'd advise you have a look into Cloughs opinions in regards to Hillsborough and then come back to me.

Draupnir

The comments which he later made a very solemn and heartfelt apology for in print, which was widely accepted by most logically thinking of Liverpool fans? His original opinions, as given in his autobiography, were given based on the most widely available information at the time.

I think it's fair enough that he made them, given what he and everyone else knew when he did. I think it is very classy and speaks volumes about Clough that he retracted them and apologised as he did, given what he and everyone else knew when he did.

Clough was an incredibly classy man, you need to put down the Hillsborough issue Mr.Alan, you are letting it dictate your opinions too much.

Mr Alan

Draupnir wrote: »

The comments which he later made a very solemn and heartfelt apology for in print, which was widely accepted by most logically thinking of Liverpool fans? His original opinions, as given in his autobiography, were given based on the most widely available information at the time.

I think it's fair enough that he made them, given what he and everyone else knew when he did. I think it is very classy and speaks volumes about Clough that he retracted them and apologised as he did, given what he and everyone else knew when he did.

Clough was an incredibly classy man, you need to put down the Hillsborough issue Mr.Alan, you are letting it dictate your opinions too much.

Not ONE single sentence in the above paragraph is true. qute literally.

Cloughs book was written 5 years after the Hillsborough disaster, the causes were well known at this time.

The hideous mistruths in what he had written were pointed out to him by both friends and publishers, before the book was published.

He chose to ignore the warnings and proceed with the controversial opinions in order to generate controversy and publicity for his book.

Families of the victims of Hillsborough tragedy followed him on his book tour begging for a retraction, one which he always refused to give.

He later rubbed salt into the wounds of the victims and their families by re-iterating his points on the Clive Anderson show and actually saying that the official Taylor report was wrong and that he knew wat the cause was.

11 years then passed before his apology came out of the blue.

Why did the apology come out of the nowhere?

Because Liverpool fans threatened a boycott of 4-4-2 the magazine where he had a job. The editor told him if he wanted to continue working there, he had to apologise. He did. I dont accept it, and most don't.

So as i said, dont care accuse me of talking **** for not liking someone when i have very valid reasons for it.

IMO he is a scumbag for all of the reasons given above. He used the Hillsborough disaster to generate controversy and sell more books.

He then 11 years later, apologised in order to keep his job. Yea, real stand up bloke.

Draupnir

Mr Alan wrote: »

So as i said, dont care accuse me of talking **** for not liking someone when i have very valid reasons for it.

I didn't accuse you of talking ****, do you read words that don't exist?

I personally am a fan of Brian Clough, I believe that his apology was genuine and I congratulate him for actually apologising. We don't need to agree on this.

Mr Alan

Mr Alan wrote: »

Not ONE single sentence in the above paragraph is true. qute literally.

Cloughs book was written 5 years after the Hillsborough disaster, the causes were well known at this time.

The hideous mistruths in what he had written were pointed out to him by both friends and publishers, before the book was published.

He chose to ignore the warnings and proceed with the controversial opinions in order to generate controversy and publicity for his book.

Families of the victims of Hillsborough tragedy followed him on his book tour begging for a retraction, one which he always refused to give.

He later rubbed salt into the wounds of the victims and their families by re-iterating his points on the Clive Anderson show and actually saying that the official Taylor report was wrong and that he knew wat the cause was.

11 years then passed before his apology came out of the blue.

Why did the apology come out of the nowhere?

Because Liverpool fans threatened a boycott of 4-4-2 the magazine where he had a job. The editor told him if he wanted to continue working there, he had to apologise. He did. I dont accept it, and most don't.

So as i said, dont care accuse me of talking **** for not liking someone when i have very valid reasons for it.

He used the Hillsborough disaster to generate controversy and sell more books.

He then 11 years later, apologised in order to keep his job. Yea, real stand up bloke.

I have to agree with you on this. Anyone who uses any tragedy to garner publicity for their own financial gain is a disgrace. Hillsborough isnt something that requires a lot of common sense to understand. 96 people died, thats tragic, should be handled and talked about with respect.


Back on topic, I miss Mourinho. The Prem isnt the same without him. I remember one Saturday I was drivin home from town after work and for a half an hour the whole way home I listened to his press conference on the radio and I literally laughed the whole time. Funny funny guy. As Al said, he does cross the line at time but he's bound to given the nature of what he says!

Mr Alan

calling someone a name with reason is not against the charter.

I do apologise for the off topic nature of my post though, it was just in response to Syke and Draupnir.

Draupnir; my comment on saying i was talking **** was actually directed at Syke who said

syke wrote:

one of the most stupid and ignorant things I've ever seen posted in this forum. As I said, most stupid post ever.

apolgies for the confusion, and you're right, we dont have to agree

I agree that Jose is missed in England, for example, i think a lot of the **** Rafa got last year was because the tabloids had a lot of space to fill with him not there every week! hopefully Scholari will fill some of it this year

Draupnir

Not a bother Alan, I missed Mourinho last season myself, Match of the Day was never the same without his interviews, they were about all that could brighten up the BBCs finest.

Hopefully we will see him back in England some day, maybe in a red tracksuit.

I do think it's a bit harsh that he is a taking a pop at Ranieri's achievements though, wasnt about 95% of the squad Mourinho won his first PL with the squad Ranieri built?

The Everlasting

Syke wrote: »

I'm not bothered either way by Mourinho, but to say that Clough hadn't an ounce of class is one of the most stupid and ignorant things I've ever seen posted in this forum.

This is a man that spent time picketing with miners who supported clubs he managed when they were being mistreated, a man who was a member of the Anti-Nazi league and raised funds for them and a man who donated large sums of money to local trade unions (again in towns where he managed). Ok, he was a socialist, but he almost always stood up for the common man when he had no need. And this was an era where managers would not have much money.

Apart from anything, you're talking about a man who was controversial in his confidence, but most of his notoriety was because he stood up for issues he believed in. He alienated Leeds players because he didn't like the way they played (which was very physical and rough). He was a firm believer in the beautiful game and a gentleman's game.

Contrast this to the person who makes his comments purely to upset opponents and who made claims to try and influence games (about officials) and who caused a referee to receive death threats due to comments that were later shown to be untrue. And you say Clough had no class?

As I said, most stupid post ever.

While it was physical, it was also as beautiful as any of the football the great Real Madrid/Barcelona/Ajax club sides played.

A common mis-conception about the great Don Revie Leeds side of the 60's & 70's is that they were just a bunch of thugs.
Yes- they could kick f*ck out of any opposition, but, at the same time, they were the greatest club side in Europe for 10 years and at times played some dazzling football (for those in doubt, take a look at this-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wweh3ROiqWI )


The passing sequence at the end has never been surpassed in my opinion and is the most iconic footage in Match of the Day history

mayordenis

The Everlasting wrote: »

The passing sequence at the end has never been surpassed in my opinion and is the most iconic footage in Match of the Day history

magic

The Everlasting

mayordenis wrote: »

magic

:):)

Glad you enjoyed it!

weemcd

The Everlasting wrote: »

While it was physical, it was also as beautiful as any of the football the great Real Madrid/Barcelona/Ajax club sides played.

A common mis-conception about the great Don Revie Leeds side of the 60's & 70's is that they were just a bunch of thugs.
Yes- they could kick f*ck out of any opposition, but, at the same time, they were the greatest club side in Europe for 10 years and at times played some dazzling football (for those in doubt, take a look at this-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wweh3ROiqWI )


The passing sequence at the end has never been surpassed in my opinion and is the most iconic footage in Match of the Day history

Having no knowledge of that era of english football, I could have laughed at that post, only I watched the video. . . but I have to agree, that could easily have been the likes of cryuff,bergkamp & co. stringing those passes and banging them goals in.

good post!