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TNTQ

sci-ops wrote: »

Quick Overview...
SAT Variable Velocity Device (VVD)
-- Polymer Piston, Steel Full Teeth, Metal Piston Head and Metal Adjustment tool
-- Design for adjust the FPS without opening the gearbox.
-- For Version 2 / 3 Gear Box (Exception: Next Gen AEG, PSG1, Extended Cylinder)
-- Black Color Piston / Red Color Tool and Piston Head

followed by question and confusion......If I don't open the gearbox, how am I going to get the blasted thing to work?:p:p

By sticking your long tool down your barrel - thus scratching the **** out of it - me thinks

Beez

I was thinking that, especially the Madbull black pythons. Could just split the receiver (say on a m4) and do it directly into the nozzle. Would be handy for playing abroad.

Stonewolf

So it's the same as that RA-Tech thing someone posted a few pages back ...

NakedDex

TNTQ wrote: »

By sticking your long tool down your barrel - thus scratching the **** out of it - me thinks

Massive amount of inappropriate jokes are massively inappropriate.

sci-ops

TNTQ wrote: »

By sticking your long tool down your barrel - thus scratching the **** out of it - me thinks

hmmm, yes i would have assumed that....thanks for the input.

Maybe I was a little too subtle in the original post, so I'll rephrase, How do you get a piston into a gearbox without opening it in the first place?
Building on that, if you can or are comfortable enough opening a gearbox, why would you be bothered putting this in, when you can always do a spring change for those "I'm in Berget moments", which would surely be better, not only in terms of consistency, but also for your barell, hop rubber, air nozzle etc.

bullets

Much easier to whack one of these onto the end of yer barrel,
other manufactures other than TM make these things now, and they
have the advantage of being able to take them off and use on a different gun
without opening anything!!!
(airsoftguns.ie had them instore a while back (non TM version) )


(I've no idea if they effect accuracy in a negative way having it stuck at the end of an outer barrel)

EDIT: of course these things only work to decrease yer fps. which leads to all sorts of questions
about sticking the SAT thingy into yer gearbox thats capable to fire over the limit with the twist of a screw
how its any different that having an aeg that fires over the limit with hop-up off but under when you turn a screw and
turn the hop-up on fully.
~B

Puding

these devices from tm are pretty much banned at most events due to there unreliability, they reply on friction causing the bb to slow down also reducing the effect of hop up

NakedDex

sci-ops wrote: »

Building on that, if you can or are comfortable enough opening a gearbox, why would you be bothered putting this in, when you can always do a spring change for those "I'm in Berget moments", which would surely be better, not only in terms of consistency, but also for your barell, hop rubber, air nozzle etc.

They're not designed for this market, where what you mention above makes more sense than installing this device (or the original RA-Tech version). They're designed for markets like the US, where site limits can vary wildly and environmental conditions can have huge effect on the device. In a country where your local indoor, air conditioned site may enforce a strict 1J limit, but your outdoor haunt is - for example - 1000ft above sea level, with an average temp of 28C and 15% humidity has a 2.5J limit, this devices essentially renders the need for multiple AEG's to be a luxury rather than necessity.
It's an ingenious piece of equipment (or, rather, the original version it cloned was), but it's not targeted at strict countries with set limits like ours or the UK.

Firekitten

bullets wrote: »

Much easier to whack one of these onto the end of yer barrel,
other manufactures other than TM make these things now, and they
have the advantage of being able to take them off and use on a different gun
without opening anything!!!
(airsoftguns.ie had them instore a while back (non TM version) )


(I've no idea if they effect accuracy in a negative way having it stuck at the end of an outer barrel)

EDIT: of course these things only work to decrease yer fps. which leads to all sorts of questions
about sticking the SAT thingy into yer gearbox thats capable to fire over the limit with the twist of a screw
how its any different that having an aeg that fires over the limit with hop-up off but under when you turn a screw and
turn the hop-up on fully.
~B

Those work SOMETIMES in semi auto (wildly inconsistent) And pretty much DONT work on auto.

damagegt

can you buy the piston on its own or do have to fork out 100 dollars every time and have a collection of the tools?

Horse84

new socomgear gemtech oasis gas nbb pistol, available in the next few weeks

NakedDex

That's as ugly as sin and I want it.

walther

Horse84 wrote: »

new socomgear gemtech oasis gas nbb pistol, available in the next few weeks

Will it be an upgraded KJW?

Inari

Balls, NBB - typical

MerryDespot

Inari wrote: »

Balls, NBB - typical

Don't care Kev - still want!!

richieffff

Inari

MerryDespot wrote: »

Don't care Kev - still want!!

To me it is just more of the same. The KJW variant is dirt cheap (circa €50), and is a pretty darn good pistol. You can make a silenced outer barrel very easily, in about 10 minutes.

This is like yet another M4 variant. If it was blowback, it would be something new and interesting...but it looks like more of the same. Yes, it is an extremely nice looking pistol...but for me, it has now lost all interest

Witcher

Hope the trigger pull is lighter on it than the KJW, you could pick that up by the trigger and it wouldn't go off:pac: Part and parcel of nbb's I suppose.

Inari

Aye, the trigger pull is nasty, and really messes with your groupings. I've had people completely unable to fire the gun cause of its insanely hard pull. The magazine design on the new one looks identical to the old KJW, which means it'll probably be based on the Marushin design

MerryDespot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyUSiRhmVKw

whydave

after being on the business end of ''tank'' I want one of these :

you can get them here

NakedDex

I've actually been after one of these for a while. Pricey though.

Blazer

airsoftkings.ie has something similiar €349..anyone ordered from these before?

http://airsoftkings.ie/shop/product.php?id_product=180

goblin59

could probally make one out of plastic sewer piping, krylon it green and stick a simple mechanism in to push the button on the back of the M203.

Use to use the left over piping back home as a kid to launch bottle rockets more accuratly at stuff.

Osmosis Jones

sure strikearms have their own mortar thats basically a bit of pipe with a base and a pin on the bottom that you just drop 203's onto.Plus its only like €40-€60

thermo

goblin59 wrote: »

could probally make one out of plastic sewer piping, krylon it green and stick a simple mechanism in to push the button on the back of the M203.

Use to use the left over piping back home as a kid to launch bottle rockets more accuratly at stuff.

been there, done that!

J.D.R

thermo wrote: »

been there, done that!

Pics or gtfo

thermo

J.D.R wrote: »

Pics or gtfo

its in my parents house, on loan to the brother. so no pics avalible at the moment.

whydave

Saw this on UnCompany ''Quality Power SA58 OSW AEG '' un code :30295. Price US$ 189.00


Want !!!!

thermo

+1