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    #32
    boneless
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭boneless


    Seifer wrote: »
    So he's got squatters rights has he? He doesn't pay to study there and he doesn't work there. He has zero rights to anything on campus.

    Call the cops....


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    #33
    Thomas_S_Hunterson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Seifer wrote: »
    So he's got squatters rights has he? He doesn't pay to study there and he doesn't work there. He has zero rights to anything on campus.

    Actually, if he's been there more than 12 years, he may well have more than just squatters rights and, with a good lawyer, may well be able to claim legal ownership of the part of campus on which he lives.


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    #34
    Tom65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Tom65


    I always used to end up getting food in the SU shop at the same time as him. This leads me to believe he has some buisness to attend to in the college - why else would he get lunch at the same time every day?


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    #35
    Dave!
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    Tom65 wrote: »
    I always used to end up getting food in the SU shop at the same time as him. This leads me to believe he has some buisness to attend to in the college - why else would he get lunch at the same time every day?
    That's when he gets hungry? lol


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    #36
    panda100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    The_Minister wrote: »
    Only when certain champagne socialists decided to be condescending and buy him dinner.

    Without asking him if he wanted charity.

    Or what he wanted to eat.

    Actually he always nods at me everytime I walk past him so he obviously didnt feel that patronised by me,I presume your talking about me.
    But yes thinking back buying him dinner was not the best thing to do,but I was only trying to be kind in the folly of youth.

    Better trying to be nice than worrying about the effect he has on potential UCD investors walking around campus :rolleyes:


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    #37
    RandolphEsq
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    Pride Fighter wrote: »
    He prefers to be called Richard:D

    Richard Features ;)


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    #38
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Seifer wrote: »
    So he's got squatters rights has he? He doesn't pay to study there and he doesn't work there. He has zero rights to anything on campus..

    Yes, yes he does. If he's been here for 13 years without incident what do you think? I think he would have gotten the heev-ho by now if there was a problem.
    Seifer wrote: »
    Yeah that's why it turns a budget surplus every year. You often see groups of people in suits walking around campus or people attending various conferences; he is not going to leave a good impression on those people.

    There are a number of reasons that the budget is "tight". Namely, that UCD for some reason are pumping considerable money into research rather than spending it on the actual college.

    And come off it, look at the campus. There are plenty of services such as grocery stores, book stores, places of leisure and a gym. Then there is the fact the registry office has a whole new building now. UCD isn't doing that bad.

    And you do know don't you that most of the suits walking around aren't investors? They rent out the likes of O Reilly Hall for their OWN conferences:rolleyes:


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    #39
    Seifer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    LZ5by5 wrote:
    There are a number of reasons that the budget is "tight".
    The budget is not 'tight' it has been running at a deficit for the last few years.
    LZ5by5 wrote:
    Namely, that UCD for some reason are pumping considerable money into research rather than spending it on the actual college.
    Most of the money that funds research is not UCD money it comes from outside sources.
    LZ5by5 wrote:
    And come off it, look at the campus. There are plenty of services such as grocery stores, book stores, places of leisure and a gym.
    The gym has nothing to do with the college and on an international scale, UCD's facilities pale in comparison.
    LZ5by5 wrote:
    And you do know don't you that most of the suits walking around aren't investors? They rent out the likes of O Reilly Hall for their OWN conferences
    Everyone is a potential investor. Sure they might not be on campus for that reason now but could be in the future.

    And to the ridiculous overuse of the rolleyes in this thread; it doesn't make your point any stronger kids.


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    #40
    Handsome Bob
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    Seifer wrote: »
    The budget is not 'tight' it has been running at a deficit for the last few years.

    Do you really believe everything you read? As far as i'm concerned, it's just a ploy to re-introduce heavy fees.
    Seifer wrote: »
    Most of the money that funds research is not UCD money it comes from outside sources.

    Maybe UCD should stop concentrating so much on enchancing its' research reputation and concentrate on enchancing its' academic reputation.
    Seifer wrote: »
    The gym has nothing to do with the college and on an international scale, UCD's facilities pale in comparison.

    I agree but as I mentioned above, that has nothing to do with one homeless guy....
    Seifer wrote: »
    Everyone is a potential investor. Sure they might not be on campus for that reason now but could be in the future.

    Again, I doubt they'd be swayed by one homeless guy. What you're saying is like saying American Investors aren't interested in investing in the likes of Man U and Liverpool because of a minority hooligan element (furthermore the homeless has never done anything wrong so what you're saying is even more laughable).

    Seifer wrote: »
    And to the ridiculous overuse of the rolleyes in this thread; it doesn't make your point any stronger kids.

    Says the guy who has games down as his one and only interest :rolleyes:


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    #41
    Seifer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    LZ5by5 wrote:
    Says the guy who has games down as his one and only interest
    Lol, I won't be wasting anymore time on you my ignorant friend.

    Girl asked for information on shady looking guy she had seen around campus. Only needed to be told he's known to be harmless minus all the holier than thou attitude.


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    #42
    Het-Field
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    I dont think that one should condemn the OP. In fact its a question posed by many perople who enter UCD.

    However, I would appeal to all like the OP not to be alarmed. He is timid, and he has never displayed an ounce of menace.

    As the Minister pointed out, he does get pissed when people buy him dinner.

    Best thing to do is leave him alone, and make no interaction with him. He will care less.


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    #43
    Handsome Bob
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    Seifer wrote: »
    Lol, I won't be wasting anymore time on you my ignorant friend.

    Girl asked for information on shady looking guy she had seen around campus. Only needed to be told he's known to be harmless minus all the holier than thou attitude.

    I'm not the one patronising people by calling them "kids" and furthermore, making highly sheltered statements.

    random girl made her fears known, she got her answer. I pulled you up for making ridiculous statements about a man who has no blemish on his record, he has earned enough trust.

    And look at my 1st post here in this thread too, I wasn't "holier than thou" with her, I explained it simply without judging her.


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    #44
    The_Minister
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    Seifer wrote: »
    Lol, I won't be wasting anymore time on you my ignorant friend.
    Infracted.
    Attack the post not the poster.


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    #45
    Awayindahils
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    I realise that there is a whole other conversation happening in this thread now but just wanted to at my two cents about the homeless guy. i've been living near UCD my whole life and my parents have always given that guy money. In fact I have lost track of the number of times my mum has stopped the car and told me to get out handy me cash. He is harmless enough. In the Spar at Woodbine he stands at the back of the shop and the manager makes him a roll and gets him a pack of cigarettes and the man hands over whatever money he has at the time. I've never heard anything bad about him but I have from time to time gotten strange looks from UCD students when I go up to him.


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    #46
    Tom65
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    Dave! wrote: »
    That's when he gets hungry? lol

    At the same time!? Every day!? I think it's part of a large conspiracy...or have they gotten to you, too?


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    #47
    boneless
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭boneless


    Only once has he ever asked me for something and that was for a lend of my lighter to spark up a fag. He even offered me one. I was doing some work in UCD at the time and was carrying a WT so I assumed he thought I was with services. This would indicate that he has a good relationship with Services.


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    #48
    mloc
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    It should probably also be pointed out I've never seen him drinking either.


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    #49
    Tayto2000
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    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Do you really believe everything you read? As far as i'm concerned, it's just a ploy to re-introduce heavy fees.
    [/B]

    As with everything else, consider the source you're reading and apply some critical thinking. The above statement just makes you come off as (a) snide and (b) paranoid.

    The UCD Bum (Surely he should have a better title than this by now?) has been a fixture for a long time now, I've always admired him, he seems to be a model of stoicism and politeness. OP, there's nothing to fear from this man. It might even be that the stories about him are true.

    Also, some may have noticed that there have occasionally been other homeless people on campus who have been chased off by services, presumably after complaints. Does anyone remember the smelly abusive guy who kept going into the library shop one year?

    And finally, @ LZ5by5 off topic, but free fees unfortunately haven't worked. Successive governments have steadily choked off the cash supply over the years and if that happened during the boom years, do you really believe that funding will be forthcoming now that the economy has taken a dive? I fully favour the reintroduction of fees for those that can afford to pay them.

    That's not to say that the way money is spent in UCD shouldn't be tightened up though.


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    #50
    syklops
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    I have never in my life seen so many sanctimonious thread replies in one place at roughly the one time. The OP asked a valid and pertinent question on the university forum and instead got nothing but abusive answers from all but one user, Seifer, who got an infraction for being abusive!!! Am I the only one who thinks this is wrong?

    If this guy is in the campus for 8,10,12,14 years as previous posters have said, why not tell new employees/students of his existence, and ensure them that hs is ok?

    It may interest one of the previous poster's to know the OP's origianl location is no where close to D4. That aside, it should not matter where someone is from to ask a question. I thought discussions forums such as this is where questions and discussion was meant to happen. I think boards new tagline should be "now ye're flamin'". not "now ye're talkin'", as that is what seems to be happening. Mods, please look at the comments that were made to the OP. If this is deemed ok, then I do not wish to be apart of boards.ie anymore.

    I think all posters, apart from Seifer and the OP should feel ashamed for how they reacted.

    If I get banned for this post then I do not care, as banning me will solidify my point.


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    #51
    Handsome Bob
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    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    As with everything else, consider the source you're reading and apply some critical thinking. The above statement just makes you come off as (a) snide and (b) paranoid.

    Excuse me for being "paranoid", but not everyone is in the position to pay those fees if they came back. It would be thousands of euro every year and that is just not acceptable. I think the entrance fee, which increased last year to about 970 euro, should be more than enough. Watch the personal insults too mate........

    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    And finally, @ LZ5by5 off topic, but free fees unfortunately haven't worked. Successive governments have steadily choked off the cash supply over the years and if that happened during the boom years, do you really believe that funding will be forthcoming now that the economy has taken a dive? I fully favour the reintroduction of fees for those that can afford to pay them.

    That's not to say that the way money is spent in UCD shouldn't be tightened up though.

    But there is still the entrance fee. Which basically stands at 1000 euro now. We already have the problem of an LC which can be tactically dissected by the best teachers to such a degree that even the least intelligent person in the class can score quite highly.

    If heavy fees are re-introduced it basically cuts off the chance of many people who have the intelligence and the drive to succeed and flourish at 3rd Level but they can't go because the family can't afford it.


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    #52
    Unshelved
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    He's there longer than 14 years - I left UCD in 1990 and he had been there for ages at that stage. I remember returning to college after Christmas one year - he had had a shave and haircut over the holidays and we were all amazed at how young he really was. Not much older than us - maybe late
    20's or so.

    He harms nobody and is something of a fixture in Belfield now. Maybe you could think up a more respectful name than "The UCD Bum"?


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    #53
    Thomas_S_Hunterson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Unshelved wrote: »
    He harms nobody and is something of a fixture in Belfield now. Maybe you could think up a more respectful name than "The UCD Bum"?
    He's a bum from UCD what's the problem?

    Unless you're one of the militant PC brigade...we could try "male non-disabled person of no fixed abode"


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    #54
    Red Alert
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    He's never done anything bad at all to anyone and seems like a nice chap who just wants to be left alone. Have you ever been to a conference in another university OP - because I actually have, and you see their versions of this guy too.


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    #55
    Tayto2000
    Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Tayto2000


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Excuse me for being "paranoid", but not everyone is in the position to pay those fees if they came back.

    True, hence means testing.
    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    It would be thousands of euro every year and that is just not acceptable. I think the entrance fee, which increased last year to about 970 euro, should be more than enough.

    The registration fee increases have been like trying to fix a shotgun wound with a sticking plaster. Have you looked at what it actually costs to run this place? The extra small bit of revenue is never going to be enough, and it's taken at the expense of the societies and others who try to counter the concrete jungle reputation UCD seems to have.
    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Watch the personal insults too mate........
    No insults anywhere in my post, I said your statement makes you come off as. Leave the moderating to the Mods is my advice.
    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    If heavy fees are re-introduced it basically cuts off the chance of many people who have the intelligence and the drive to succeed and flourish at 3rd Level but they can't go because the family can't afford it.

    Once again: Means testing. Fees should only be payed by those who can afford to pay them. The only group that free fees benefitted has been the middle classes who had a tradition of sending their sons and daughters to 3rd level anyway. Free fees has just allowed those parents to spend the money they would have spent on College tuition on expensive private secondary schooling instead.

    LZ5by5, I'd like to debate this further with you, but I don't want to drag this thread further OT. Start a new thread on fees and I'll reply to it there if you'd like to continue this conversation. Hope to see you there.


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    #56
    Riamfada
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    Seifer wrote: »
    Maybe you're a big, huge guy comfortable walking around on your own QUOTE]

    LOL

    Yeah Im built like a brick ****house alright !


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    #57
    The_Minister
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    /picks up Grimes and pets him


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    #58
    fillefatale
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    Out of interest - how do you lot refer to him as? I refer to him as "Old Crusty", picked up from others. Loveable old sort, I wonder what he does he be thinking as he wanders alongside the hedges and walls of the campus.


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    fillefatale
    Registered Users Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭fillefatale


    [QUOTE=Unshelved;56832145
    He harms nobody and is something of a fixture in Belfield now. Maybe you could think up a more respectful name than "The UCD Bum"?[/QUOTE]

    IA. I've just been refering to him as "Old Crusty", picked it up from other people really.


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    that's the hobo of haunt. don't know his real name. he's been there forever
    he's really nice. if not a little crazy. he wouldn't touch you
    in fact i've heard he's known for kicking the **** out of guys he finds hassling women
    he gets free food and people look out for him. he's part of ucd


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    #61
    D.Q
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    """"If this guy is in the campus for 8,10,12,14 years as previous posters have said, why not tell new employees/students of his existence, and ensure them that hs is ok?""""

    In the welcome packs perhaps??
    "Dell Offer...How to register online..... Student Diary...UCD Bum....":D


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