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Final Fantasy VII: PS3 Remake

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  • 08-08-2008 9:15am
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    Registered Users Posts: 83,259 ✭✭✭✭


    I have to assume its in the making. If not then they are cruel, cruel bastards for producing this PS3 Demo 2 odd years ago to show off what the PS3 can do:



    The Video is from E3 2006 I think.
    Final Fantasy VII Director Yoshinori Kitase recently touched on the possibility of remaking the RPG classic for the PlayStation 3, stating that fans could “expect the probability of something spontaneous happening at some point.”

    Kitase commented that if a remake were to transpire, it would have to include all of the core team members from the original 1997 PlayStation classic; something which isn’t possible right now due each individual’s commitments to other projects.

    "My feelings are that if a remake were to work well then all the core members of the original team must be reassembled, all the artists and designers,” said Kitase.

    “The problem is that, although all of us have an idea of what a remake should be and how to do it, organising such a thing right now is logistically very difficult. All the different members are now involved in very new, very large projects like Final Fantasy XIII and those projects are going to take a while.”

    Despite this, he refused to completely rule out the chances of a remake on PS3, adding, “Maybe, when all those games are finished then we can look at doing something like that.”

    ”Of course, that said we came up with the idea for Crisis Core in just two days. It was a case of 'this is what we want to do, so let's do it'. So, you can definitely expect the probability of something spontaneous happening at some point, but it's hard to predict."

    Stay tuned for further developments as they break.

    I hope he's just pulling my chain and that they are going to make us all wet are pants by springing up a FF7 re-release from out of nowhere.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭KingLoser


    f course, that said we came up with the idea for Crisis Core in just two days.

    I can certainly see why....

    Open comment to SquareEnix: LEAVE FFVII THE F*CK ALONE.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,259 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    With a Graphics Test like the one above you want to tell them no?

    .........why?


  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭KingLoser


    Overheal wrote: »
    With a Graphics Test like the one above you want to tell them no?

    .........why?

    Everything SquareEnix have ever done to FFVII has only cheapened or destroyed it in some way.

    I don't trust them to remake it properly.

    If it's not broken, don't fix it.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    give me a DS version anyday


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,773 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    KingLoser wrote: »
    Everything SquareEnix have ever done to FFVII has only cheapened or destroyed it in some way.

    I don't trust them to remake it properly.

    If it's not broken, don't fix it.

    +1000000

    Just play it again on PSX imo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭KingLoser


    DS: Hell yeah, but polish VI first plx. : )


  • Registered Users Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Tommy_NDX


    I would love to see it remade for ps3 but i agree there is a
    chance of the game being ruined


  • Registered Users Posts: 917 ✭✭✭carbonkid


    I wish square never released that stupid ps3 demo thing. NO...theres not going to be a remake of VII, its all clever advertising by square to get people talking more about final fantasy and then hopefully you buy the new games.

    The only point of that clip was to show the graphic potential of the PS3...they remade the intro of FFVII because the original version was used as a demo for the PSX.

    The remake of FFVII will never happen for PS3...you might see it on one the handheld.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    the original FF7 will be free bundle with FF13 (in japan) :pac:

    rmk FF7?i rather that will never happen tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭xbox36016


    thay will remake it for the wii becase evary one in japan and the usa has one and thay can make more monay


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    I'm almost certain we'll be seeing a remake at some point. They'll run out of ideas for spin offs sooner or later and let's face it, a remake on one or multiple formats is a pretty sure fire way of raking in some serious cash.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    TBH, I think that Square saying that what they showed was running in real time on the PS3 hardware is absolute bull. I was just a HD prerendered cutscene. Nothing on the PS3 has come anywhere near the level of those visuals and strangely enough it was used as a cutscene at the end of Crisis Core and it looked like the exact same level of prerendering as in all of that games cutsecenes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Its just the equivalent of a PS3 cutscene isn't it? In which case I think it is entirely feasible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,773 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    I actually just watched the video there for the first time and to be honest it's almost enough to change my mind...

    As long as the went back to the proper ATB battles imo...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    noodler wrote: »
    Its just the equivalent of a PS3 cutscene isn't it? In which case I think it is entirely feasible.

    It's that fact that Sony are advertising it as being rendered in real time by the PS3 hardware which I severely doubt it is. In fact I'll so far as to say it's not being rendered in real time.

    I also doubt it will get remade for the PS3. I don't think there would be a market. To completely re do the whole game up to the polished standards we would expect from a next gen game is going to cost a lot of money and the game is only going to apeal to a small portion of the market. The game will also get cut to pieces by the press. FFVII has aged quite a bit now with a storyline that dies on it's arse halfway through and some really bad and simplistic battle and magic mechanics. It's certainly not a bad game it's just that with the rose tinted glasses off, JRPGs have come a long way since and far superior games to FFVII have come out and even came out before FFVII.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Few games have had so many good plot devices, I won;t name them for fear of ruining the experience for what I feel is the best game I have ever played. I also think few games can grab you as emotionally, stuff like the fall of Sector 7, the Aeris (and mom) trainstation flashbacks and obviously the end of disc one event.

    I don't think simplistic is neccessarily bad Retro. DQ:VIII was even more so and didn't suffer from it.

    Finally, I think alot of people have a special affinity for the Fantasy they played first. So much so that, if it is merely that fact which makes it my fave ever game, I do not realise it on a conscience level.

    Anyways, you preferred 6. I can't see why, found it tedious, number of random encounters etc. You must wonder if you would feel the same had you played 7 first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    Good article HERE


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    noodler wrote: »
    Anyways, you preferred 6. I can't see why, found it tedious, number of random encounters etc. You must wonder if you would feel the same had you played 7 first.

    I did play FFVII first. I'd take Chrono Trigger over FFVII any day as well.

    Honestly though after leaveing midgar the story really isn't up to much, it's really just an average anime storyline. Compare that to FFX which deals with themes of racism, religion and handles friendship a whole lot better. There are plenty of games out there that are far more mature with their dealing with issues or creating the abstract ending that FFVII went for. Games like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Ico and shadow of the colossus put that ending to shame. The ending of disc 1 was quite emotional but it was done before and handled a lot better in earlier games, to name check one of them Phantasy Star 2. Compare it to the ending of suikoden 2, a very mature handling of three youths who have their lives torn apart by war.

    the battle system is also pants compared to even the games that came before it. FFIV, FFV and FFVI are much better. Chrono Trigger, Grandia and FFX also severely outclass it.

    FFVII for me is a great game but it really is being viewed through rose tinted glasses an awful lot. It was groundbreaking when it came out but it's very obvious that it was a rush job and quite flawed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,773 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I did play FFVII first. I'd take Chrono Trigger over FFVII any day as well.

    Honestly though after leaveing midgar the story really isn't up to much, it's really just an average anime storyline. Compare that to FFX which deals with themes of racism, religion and handles friendship a whole lot better. There are plenty of games out there that are far more mature with their dealing with issues or creating the abstract ending that FFVII went for. Games like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Ico and shadow of the colossus put that ending to shame. The ending of disc 1 was quite emotional but it was done before and handled a lot better in earlier games, to name check one of them Phantasy Star 2. Compare it to the ending of suikoden 2, a very mature handling of three youths who have their lives torn apart by war.

    the battle system is also pants compared to even the games that came before it. FFIV, FFV and FFVI are much better. Chrono Trigger, Grandia and FFX also severely outclass it.

    FFVII for me is a great game but it really is being viewed through rose tinted glasses an awful lot. It was groundbreaking when it came out but it's very obvious that it was a rush job and quite flawed.

    I think that saying people only like FF7 so much because of nostalgia is a bit condescending to be honest dude - people could say the same about why you like Chrono Trigger.

    I'd actually disagree with most of the negatives you put forward about the game - I loved the materia system, far prefer the ATB battles to the more real-time-ish ones we have now and I thought the storyline was smashing all the way through. The characters in FF games have become less and less appealing with each new installment as well, ie if I had to pick my 8 favorite characters from all the FFs since 7 they would all come from 7&8 (except maybe Vivi from 9).

    I can't argue with points you've made about some of the other games cos I haven't played them. The only thing I'd say is that Chrono Trigger is a great game but I'd take FF7 any day of the week.

    Also, FFX was a major crock of **** imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I almost completely and wholeheartedly disagree with everything you have said Retro. I am glad I tried 6 (To be fair I am in the tower, minutes away from Kefka and haven't gotten around to it yet) just so I could argue from a better position. I know the PSX version I played is slower etc. But the characters lacked depth for me. Bar a short back stroy for each one in the WOR. Some of the dialogue was too cheesy. I though Kefka could have been the baddie from a Bugs Bunny Cartoon.

    The whole Cloud thing with Solider (also the other bits I mentioned in the other post-I won't bore anyone by repeating them). The characters were just better. Cid's flashabacks to the failed Rocket launch, Barret's town being burned and the death of Dyne. Its just a much stronger game for me in terms of content. I understand there are plot holes but I always enjoyed disc 2 the most if I am honest (to the claim the quality degrades after Disc 1). Hell the Weapon attack on Junon was superb.

    It dealt with its own issues. Environmentalism in a HUGE way.Technological progression over old time values etc.

    I liked the battle system. I think it was made kind of redunent if you grinded in any way but, whilst I admit 10's is better (I loved 10 tho) I just don't think flawed is the appropriate word.

    I don't know where to begin with FF6'S battle system. There were too many irrelevant characters and skills. Way too many Espers. I will give it kudos for the 5-slot accessories as opossed to 7's 3 tho.




    Keaneo, how did you not like 10? The tag team system, the overkill system, the different weapons for different oonents (noy just elementals), BlitzBall, Auron, the **** cool summon monsters, the Auron flashbacks with jecht, the brilliant double shock when you are in Zanarkand.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Well I only played Chrono Trigger quite recently, it was so good that i even forgave it when it burnt out the laser on my second PS2.

    Honestly when I played FFVII for the first time I thought it was the best game ever. However I went back to play it about 3 years ago and well it really hasn't lived up to my memories of it although I still thoroughly enjoyed the experience. It's not the greatest game ever made, far from it.

    Back on topic, I think the reasons I mentioned and the fact that it's just a nostalgia piece tarted up will mean that the market wouldn't be large enough to cover the costs of a remake of what still is a massive and highly ambitious game. Average reviews that i'm predicting it will get won't help expand the audience beyond some curious newcomers to the series.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,773 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Back on topic, I think the reasons I mentioned and the fact that it's just a nostalgia piece tarted up will mean that the market wouldn't be large enough to cover the costs of a remake of what still is a massive and highly ambitious game. Average reviews that i'm predicting it will get won't help expand the audience beyond some curious newcomers to the series.

    Does anyone know how the remake of Metal Gear Solid on the Gamecube did? Might be a decent barometer of how likely a remake of FF7 would be - both classics with fairly huge fanbases...


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    It would sell very well.

    I just want it left as it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,773 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    noodler wrote: »
    Keaneo, how did you not like 10? The tag team system, the overkill system, the different weapons for different oonents (noy just elementals), BlitzBall, Auron, the **** cool summon monsters, the Auron flashbacks with jecht, the brilliant double shock when you are in Zanarkand.

    Tag-team was alrite.

    Overkill didn't do much for me.

    Different weapons = meh.

    Blitzball was a joke - I won every game like 10-0

    Auron - Granted, he was cool

    Mainly I thought the story was pants and I hated the sphere grid. Also, most of the characters were douchebags imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Overkill gave you a reason to actually use a foe's weaknesses as opossed to simply pressing x to fight, x to fight etc. I got alot of satisfaction from using the ball to hit fliers, daggers for dogs and piercing weapons for shelled enemies.

    Blitz gets easy but its only a mini game with a massive scouting system. Best mini game in the series by a mile.

    The story was quite strong for me.

    I hope you have at least finished it? Defo a game I preferred 2nd time round.


  • Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭knuth


    Personally, I would buy a PS3 just for this remake. I'm currently replaying this game again on my eeepc and it's just amazing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,773 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    noodler wrote: »
    Overkill gave you a reason to actually use a foe's weaknesses as opossed to simply pressing x to fight, x to fight etc. I got alot of satisfaction from using the ball to hit fliers, daggers for dogs and piercing weapons for shelled enemies.

    Never been into weapons too much - more a magic guy, and the materia system was the coolest for magic imo...
    noodler wrote: »
    Best mini game in the series by a mile.

    Triple Triad FTW imo...
    noodler wrote: »
    The story was quite strong for me.

    Agree to disagree I guess...
    noodler wrote: »
    I hope you have at least finished it? Defo a game I preferred 2nd time round.

    Yup, the fact that the last boss was a ball irritated me greatly. As did the fact that he failed to land a single hit on me.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I seem to recall that Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes didn't do all that well at retail. I also felt they totally ruined that game with some really dreadful and silly OTT cutscene direction.

    I'm guessing you overlevelled in FFX, keane2097. I don't level at all in FF games and found the battle system in FFX to be an absolute masterpiece. It was really very challenging and you really had to use the right characters for the right situation. Boss battles were even more strategic. I found the last boss to be a complete bitch (not the final fight which you couldn't lose).

    I myself didn't think all that much of the materia system. I thought it was very simplistic. Any character could equip any materia which meant that characters quickly lost their personality. There was also no strategy in the fights you could breeze through the game with the only difficulty spike being the final boss unless you wanted to bore yourself levelling for the weapons.

    I also found FFX to be the strongest storywise. Characters were brilliant other than Tidus who was way too whiny. Thought the way the story was told was very impressive and it never felt rushed or silly like some of the FF games. Then of course there was that ending, birlliant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I was worried the characters would lose their charm when voice acting came in but the characters were great. Tidus was a bit whiny but did the job. I just thought of another great scene from that game-when they Seymour catches up to them on the mountains and he tells kamarhi how he's annihalated his bretheren as they tried to stop him.

    Triple Triad is in second for me, I think they made the rules retarded late game. It becomes completely random. I don't like minigames which encourage you to actually load and reset all the time in order to max them. (Casinos in DQ for example)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,773 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I seem to recall that Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes didn't do all that well at retail. I also felt they totally ruined that game with some really dreadful and silly OTT cutscene direction.

    I'm guessing you overlevelled in FFX, keane2097. I don't level at all in FF games and found the battle system in FFX to be an absolute masterpiece. It was really very challenging and you really had to use the right characters for the right situation. Boss battles were even more strategic. I found the last boss to be a complete bitch (not the final fight which you couldn't lose).

    I myself didn't think all that much of the materia system. I thought it was very simplistic. Any character could equip any materia which meant that characters quickly lost their personality. There was also no strategy in the fights you could breeze through the game with the only difficulty spike being the final boss unless you wanted to bore yourself levelling for the weapons.

    I also found FFX to be the strongest storywise. Characters were brilliant other than Tidus who was way too whiny. Thought the way the story was told was very impressive and it never felt rushed or silly like some of the FF games. Then of course there was that ending, birlliant.

    I guess I'd better play it again - I remember thinking the stroy was ****e but I think I might have stopped playing for a while in the middle and not been able to remember what was going on..!


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