Lidl Targa 500Gb drive Nas/Esata/Usb2.0 €140

Phester

€ 140

5 x faster data transfer than USB 2.0 thanks to eSATA♦!
# External 500GB hard disk with network connection (RJ45), external SATA

interface (eSATA) and high speed USB 2.0
# Exclusive, high-quality and robust stainless steel housing
# Quiet ultra-cool 75mm fan
# 500GB with 7200 rpm and 8MB cache for fast data transmission
# Suitable for Windows XP, 2000, Vista (NTFS formatted)
# User friendly plug & play
# Size: 21 x 12 x 5cm
# Package includes: Housing with built-in hard disk, External power adaptor, Stand for vertical installation, USB cable, Network cable, eSATA cable, CD with driver, User manual

How can a usb2.0 device be 5 times faster than a USB2.0 device

The fastest you can get over a Usb2.0 port is around 25MB/sec (480Mbit) If i remember correctly.

The network port makes this a cheap NAS if it is only 100Mbit then it is going to be slow too. It is not specified in the specs.

feylya

It's faster using eSATA, not USB.

Its 5 times faster when you use eSata and not USB....

sunny2004

any chance of the price ??:p its a bargain alert ??

Phester

my bad I'm getting out of touch with tech. I taught that esata was sata2 and not an external interface.

Its a nice combination so.

Bald? er, dash!

I'm guessing its this one

@ €139.99

missingtime

139.99

http://www.lidl.ie/ie/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20080818.p.TargaExternalNetworkHDD500GB

ohhh beaten to it.....

Oracle

This still seems high priced to me, considering standard (non-network) drives have dropped in price recently. Just to say as well that this drive will work with Linux, because most distributions can now read and write to NTFS file systems.

jvc

I got it the last time it was on for 109euro. No mention of eSATA then but looks the same apart from that. Had no problems so far anyway. I got a 3 year warranty with it aswell so it hard to go wrong. Probably much better value ones online these days though.

jpfahy

The last ones had 400Gb Samsung disks inside, good quality, and the NAS worked well too. Only good value if buying as a NAS I would think. I doubt its gigabit NAS though, if it is I'll be queueing

http://www.targa.nl/index.jsp?SID=0&NAV=236&DOC=&PAGE=2322&PCAT=2&PROD=412&PTUBE=2&PARAMS=undefined&PARAMS2=undefined&SPCAREA=undefined

5h4mr0(k

It doesn't say in the spec that it's a NAS drive - it just says that it has a network port. The last one came with NDAS software. This means that only a PC with the software installed on it can connect to it.

KStaford

Like a wise fella once said "just because it's LIDL dont mean it's always that cheap"


WESTERN DIGITAL - HD My Book World Ed/500GB 3.5"Ethernet
€115 inc vat at Elara
http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfull.asp?productcode=ECE1329815

Bob the Builder

if you're buying a lidl hard drive to back up your information - well then them two points cancel each other out really.

I can honestly say, I've never bought anything in Aldi/Lidl that lasted any length at all... Bought a laptop not so long ago, and broke just one week outside of the warranty. Plus a host of other things... and similar situation happened.

MarkR

It broke after three years? Not as bad as breaking after one I suppose.

delllat

anyone know where to get a cheap 1tb nas drive?

this one looks ok but id filll it too quick

byte

KStaford wrote: »

Like a wise fella once said "just because it's LIDL dont mean it's always that cheap"


WESTERN DIGITAL - HD My Book World Ed/500GB 3.5"Ethernet
€115 inc vat at Elara
http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfull.asp?productcode=ECE1329815

That doesn't have eSATA though...

johnny_adidas

been after one of these for a while. have no use for eSATA and have read a few bad reviews online about the Mybook so those in the know, which would be the better option? (i see both have 3 yrs warranty which is handy)

byte

The LiDL one with eSATA wins it for me, as I intend to hook it up to my satellite receiver for recording purposes. Dunno what brand of HDD they use inside though.

Jonathan

Can anyone confirm if this drive has a webui? Does it have FTP and can you leave it plugged in the whole time and the disk will spin down and only turn on when you seek info from it/ turn in on in the webui? Especially interested in what jvc has to say seeing as he has the old model.

Quaderno

jmccrohan wrote: »

Can anyone confirm if this drive has a webui? Does it have FTP and can you leave it plugged in the whole time and the disk will spin down and only turn on when you seek info from it/ turn in on in the webui? Especially interested in what jvc has to say seeing as he has the old model.

I also bought one of the last batch (without e-SATA) @109€;. I never regretted it.
The drive inside identifies itself as "WDC WD5000AAJB-0", so it's apparently a Western Digital. The NDAS doesn't come with a webui and it does not support FTP, for it is not a NAS. You will have to install a special software (NDAS Device Manager) on every pc you want to connect to the drive. Then you can set rights to allow the system to only read from the drive or to read/write. Using the software you can also build raids with more than one of the drives.
The drive will then appear on your machine as if it was installed locally and you can use it like any other storage using your standard file managing software. I'm not sure if it can be connected to any device other than a computer, for you would need to install the device manager software. I would say it will probably not work when used with a sat receiver or anything like that...

The advantage though is that the NDAS system uses a more efficient protocol than TCP/IP and so it's faster when used via network than any (100Mbit-) NAS would be. You can expect transfer rates of around 10MB/s via 100MBit/s Ethernet (i.e. when connected to your standard router). The old ones don't support GBit-Ethernet and I don't think the new batch will.
And yes, it will power down when you don't access it and will come up again when needed.
But keep in mind: it's not supposed to be connected wirelessly (Can it be written this way? I'm not a native English speaker...) and it will probably not work properly when used via wlan.

I think it is a good offer if you really need to access your storage from different machines inside a (wired) network.
Forget it if you only need a external HD for your single computer, for that purpose usb2 or even e-sata would work much faster (btw: e-sata may be 5 times faster than usb2, but the drive itself will deliver the data with twice the speed of usb2 at best. You will probably not get more than 70 to 90 MB/s with e-sata compared to about 45MB/s via usb2).

Edit: the manual for the drive can be found here: http://www.service.targa.co.uk/antworten.php?lang_id=2&faqid=4232&artid=810&artdesc=Targa+DataBox+NDAS+500+eSATA&artpic=40307_Databox_IV.jpg&faqquest=Manual+for+Targa+Databox+NDAS+500+eSATA+%28EN%2C+SI%2C+HR%29&func1=1&func2=1&func3=2&baseid=236&serial=

Oracle

Ehhh.... yes that e-sata speed is terrific. But isn't the snag here that only the most modern computers currently have an e-sata connector? D'oh!

witnessmenow

My pc is two years old and supports it. Noticeably much faster than usb.

EDIT: If your pc has Sata get this and you'll be laughing

markos79

ok im hopeless at all this tech stuff is this for playing things you have downloaded so you can play them on your tv?

Oracle

Yeah, that's right it makes tea and toast too!

degsie

markos79 wrote: »

ok im hopeless at all this tech stuff is this for playing things you have downloaded so you can play them on your tv?

No. Storage only, no multimedia functionality.

patmac

degsie wrote: »

No. Storage only, no multimedia functionality.

So where would somebody get one with multimedia functionality? Also I see Aldi have this for sale @€;85 works out at €70 in the North:mad:.
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6859.htm

zod

patmac wrote: »

So where would somebody get one with multimedia functionality? Also I see Aldi have this for sale @€;85 works out at €70 in the North:mad:.
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6859.htm

here :

http://www.pixmania.com/ie/uk/589511/art/dane-elec/so-speaky-500-gb-external.html

MunsterCycling

patmac wrote: »

So where would somebody get one with multimedia functionality? Also I see Aldi have this for sale @€;85 works out at €70 in the North:mad:.
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/58_6859.htm

It's €74 here so not much of a difference

Good value in Argos, €90 for a 500GB Maxtor & €140 for a 750GB and you get a free 2GB flash drive.

500GB
http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=30001&catalogId=1500001201&langId=-1&searchTerms=6756224

750GB
http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=30001&catalogId=1500001201&langId=-1&searchTerms=6756231

Jonathan

hellboy99 wrote: »

Good value in Argos, 90 for a 500GB Maxtor & 140 for a 750GB and you get a free 2GB flash drive.

500GB
http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=30001&catalogId=1500001201&langId=-1&searchTerms=6756224

750GB
http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=30001&catalogId=1500001201&langId=-1&searchTerms=6756231

I see a problem without even looking at the links.. It is maxtor...

jmccrohan

jmccrohan wrote: »

I see a problem without even looking at the links.. It is maxtor...

I've never had a problem with any Maxtor/Quantum drive I've had. Have one of the 500GB from Argos and it runs fine.