worst car manufacturer for reliability

L1011

peugeot

minxie1 wrote: »

engine roars, bumpy suspension,no cornering control,
felt totally unsafe in it...
engine very noisy while driving, am i being fair??
personally i drive a golf....

So it didn't break down then? Unlike your Golf.

Did you read what this poll was for?

Bluefoam

peugeot

Had a new Grande Punto as a loan car recently, thought it was fantastic, it drove amazingly well for a car in that class. Not amazingly pokey around town, but very good mile muncher.

Also rented a Clio recently, didn't like it at all, the interior was seriously dated, by about 15 years... Didn't feel as competent as the punto & I didn't feel as comfortable on the open road.

minxie

citroen

MYOB wrote: »

So it didn't break down then? Unlike your Golf.

Did you read what this poll was for?

yes i did.....
and yes it did break down . twice i had it jump started,
golf dnt,, was in for service/ valet

L1011

peugeot

minxie1 wrote: »

yes i did.....
and yes it did break down . twice i had it jump started,
golf dnt,, was in for service/ valet

How on earth did a service take two weeks? I've never had a service take more than a day and a valet take more than an lunchtime.

Or are you fabricating stuff on the fly here to justify your position...

If a garage gave me a car that required jump starting as a courtesy car I'd never use said garage again - they're clearly incompetent. Considering Fiat's don't let you do the usual battery run-down's of leaving headlights or the courtesy light on at that.

byte

mitsubishi

No SEAT in the list so I voted VW as nearest.

My '00 Leon gave more than its fair share of grief, all problems electrical related. Glad to get rid of it a few weeks ago.

NewApproach

peugeot

I must admit I am slightly surprised there are no votes for Mercedes yet...

I was led to believe they have suffered many electrical problems in the last 6 years or so

minxie

citroen

MYOB wrote: »

How on earth did a service take two weeks? I've never had a service take more than a day and a valet take more than an lunchtime.

Or are you fabricating stuff on the fly here to justify your position...

If a garage gave me a car that required jump starting as a courtesy car I'd never use said garage again - they're clearly incompetent. Considering Fiat's don't let you do the usual battery run-down's of leaving headlights or the courtesy light on at that.

waiting on a specialist part,,,knew it could take a bit, getting off topic here, poll was on reliability and thats my opinion, as for having to be jumped i dont know or car why,its not my car..
alas i had no choice in garage as its where i bought my car and its still under manu warranty,
no fabrication, maybe you actually like fiats...

L1011

peugeot

Oddly enough my manufacturer allows me to choose which garage I get warranty repairs and servicing in from a list of all franchise dealers and a number of franchise repair agents. Its never been serviced in the dealer I bought it in. That manufacturer is Fiat...

Also - since when does routine servicing need a specialist part? It doesn't. Sounds like something broke to me :rolleyes:

Bluefoam

peugeot

NewApproach wrote: »

I must admit I am slightly surprised there are no votes for Mercedes yet...

I was led to believe they have suffered many electrical problems in the last 6 years or so

People who buy into perceived quality brands such as Mercedes, BMW & VW are reluctant to admit that there are flaws with the brand - as that would suggest they bought into a flawed product.

I would estimate that those who voted against VW are not VW owners, however that does not indicate that VW do not deserve their rating in the poll.

Bluefoam

peugeot

MYOB wrote: »

since when does routine servicing need a specialist part? It doesn't. Sounds like something broke to me :rolleyes:

minxie

citroen

MYOB wrote: »

Oddly enough my manufacturer allows me to choose which garage I get warranty repairs and servicing in from a list of all franchise dealers and a number of franchise repair agents. Its never been serviced in the dealer I bought it in. That manufacturer is Fiat...

Also - since when does routine servicing need a specialist part? It doesn't. Sounds like something broke to me :rolleyes:

2nd hand car warranty from same garage that sold car
lucky you because every car i have bought is under warranty to garage where you buy the car,:)
""nothing broke"" specialist part is an upgrade part which i asked to be fitted. i dont care what i drive when i get a replacement, poll started off as an opinion and this is mine.

L1011

peugeot

You said it was servicing, then you said it was a service and a valet, now you're saying it was an upgrade.

Can you take one position and run with it?

Every car I've bought is new - hence manufacturer warranty. Four years of it, at that.

edit: also, what garage in this country would be willing to have your car sitting there, on their insurance, for two weeks waiting for a non-essential part to come in while you're driving their car around? Any sensible one would have you take it back until the part came in.

Bluefoam

peugeot

You can fit those glowing valve caps yourself

minxie

citroen

MYOB wrote: »

You said it was servicing, then you said it was a service and a valet, now you're saying it was an upgrade.

Can you take one position and run with it?

Every car I've bought is new - hence manufacturer warranty. Four years of it, at that.

service/upgrade....
have i offended you????
as for me i cant afford a new car every 4 years, am talking used car warranty ie my 6 mtth service which i availed of the time my car was in for service to get my car re mapped... and save a bit of money at the same time... you are going off topic here sir,

L1011

peugeot

How is it off topic, if you borrowed a broken car from a clearly incompetent garage and are basing your opinions solely on it - and it appears, mostly its drive quality - when the poll is about reliability?

minxie

citroen

Bluefoam wrote: »

You can fit those glowing valve caps yourself

funny but made me laugh anyway:D:D
but no wasnt glowing valve caps:P

Bluefoam

peugeot

minxie1 wrote: »

i availed of the time my car was in for service to get my car re mapped...

What part do you need for the remap? I didn't know main dealers did them.

L1011

peugeot

minxie1 wrote: »

2nd hand car warranty from same garage that sold car
lucky you because every car i have bought is under warranty to garage where you buy the car,:)
""nothing broke"" specialist part is an upgrade part which i asked to be fitted. i dont care what i drive when i get a replacement, poll started off as an opinion and this is mine.

minxie1 wrote: »

waiting on a specialist part,,,knew it could take a bit, getting off topic here, poll was on reliability and thats my opinion, as for having to be jumped i dont know or car why,its not my car..
alas i had no choice in garage as its where i bought my car and its still under manu warranty,
no fabrication, maybe you actually like fiats...

Contradicting yourself here.

L1011

peugeot

Bluefoam wrote: »

What part do you need for the remap? I didn't know main dealers did them.

They also usually invalidate the manufacturers warranty that minxie1 seems indecisive about whether he actually has!

minxie

citroen

MYOB wrote: »

Contradicting yourself here.

pray tell

L1011

peugeot

minxie1 wrote: »

pray tell

You said the car had a manufacturers warranty

Then you said it had a 6 month warranty from the garage that sold it.

These are VASTLY different things.

minxie

citroen

MYOB wrote: »

They also usually invalidate the manufacturers warranty that minxie1 seems indecisive about whether he actually has!

i dont have a manufactures warranty its a uk import which i wanted remapped, i know it invalidates original warranty,(which i dont have anyway)
its about the performance

L1011

peugeot

minxie1 wrote: »

i dont have a manufactures warranty its a uk import which i wanted remapped, no it invalidates original warranty,(which i dont have anyway)
its about the performance

So why did you say you had a manufacturers warranty in post 38?

I'm finding it harder to believe anything you type, to be honest.

minxie

citroen

MYOB wrote: »

You said the car had a manufacturers warranty

Then you said it had a 6 month warranty from the garage that sold it.

These are VASTLY different things.

fair enough i did mean garage warranty. and in context am judging it on 2 weeks having it but it was still an awful car to drive..
(do i have to lie and say it wasnt)

Bluefoam

peugeot

MYOB wrote: »

You said the car had a manufacturers warranty

Then you said it had a 6 month warranty from the garage that sold it.

These are VASTLY different things.

HMMMMM...

My car (second hand) has a years warranty from the dealer (main). But also had some warranty work recently which needed to be approved by the manufacturer
- maybe the car was still within its 3 year manufacturers warranty or the main dealer warranty is actually underwritten by the manufacturer.

minxie

citroen

Bluefoam wrote: »

HMMMMM...

My car (second hand) has a years warranty from the dealer (main). But also had some warranty work recently which needed to be approved by the manufacturer
- maybe the car was still within its 3 year manufacturers warranty or the main dealer warranty is actually underwritten by the manufacturer.

no its an import 2002 reg so only 6 mth GARAGE warranty

L1011

peugeot

Bluefoam wrote: »

HMMMMM...

My car (second hand) has a years warranty from the dealer (main). But also had some warranty work recently which needed to be approved by the manufacturer
- maybe the car was still within its 3 year manufacturers warranty or the main dealer warranty is actually underwritten by the manufacturer.

There's a chance that said dealer has just told you he's offering a 1 year warranty when its actually still covered by the manufacturer - nah, we'd never have a car dealer telling fibs now would we

If theres some overlap in time, e.g. it was to fall out of warranty during that year but hadn't yet; or it was a failure that should not have happened that they could blag off the manufacturer, thats another possibility. My sister got a head gasket replaced on a car which was just out of warranty due to the garage arguing with Fiat Auto Ireland that it shouldn't have happened that young - this was years ago when they only had 1 year vs. 4 years though.

minxie

citroen

MYOB wrote: »

There's a chance that said dealer has just told you he's offering a 1 year warranty when its actually still covered by the manufacturer - nah, we'd never have a car dealer telling fibs now would we

If theres some overlap in time, e.g. it was to fall out of warranty during that year but hadn't yet; or it was a failure that should not have happened that they could blag off the manufacturer, thats another possibility. My sister got a head gasket replaced on a car which was just out of warranty due to the garage arguing with Fiat Auto Ireland that it shouldn't have happened that young - this was years ago when they only had 1 year vs. 4 years though.

yeah have heard that happening, not a lot though....think they try to make you pay first rather than them

-Chris-

mazda

FFS MYOB, can we get this back on topic? If you want, disregard minxie's submission to the poll and coallate your own results...

-Chris-

mazda

NewApproach wrote: »

I must admit I am slightly surprised there are no votes for Mercedes yet...

I was led to believe they have suffered many electrical problems in the last 6 years or so

I'd be kind of surprised too, they have had some issues alright. Although, seeing as they're a niche brand (as all premium manufacturers are), there's probably less boards contributors who have experienced them than Ford or Fiat.

But also, they're not the worst, and seeing as you can only vote for one manufacturer, only those with a specific personal experience would use their vote for Merc.