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Are you entitled to dispute the open market value of a car with the revenue?

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  • 09-08-2008 6:30pm
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    drunkmonkey
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    The reason I ask is a friend has to clear a car with a
    an open market selling value of €18,600 on the revenue site, yet the same car can be bought from a dealer for €13,000....

    thanks
    dm


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    Our man in Havana
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    Can he find ads, price listings etc with this €13,000 price on it? Does this car have loads of extras?


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    drunkmonkey
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    the car is the exact same spec as an irish one....could print out carzone listings of the same car..


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    Our man in Havana
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    I don't think revenue will take much notice of Carzone.

    It would be dealer listings from a newspaper that they might consider.


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    drunkmonkey
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    Would dealer listings from carzone be sufficent? Or would they only accept main dealer prices.?


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    Mailman
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    They will only take values "at first hand"

    Lower dealer asking prices will be sufficient to argue a lower OMSP if you provide enough of them.
    They have to be dealer prices, not private prices, not auction prices.

    It's up to the appelant to prove the OMSP is wrong, not up to Revenue to prove it is right.


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    Our man in Havana
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    Mailman wrote: »
    They will only take values "at first hand"

    Lower dealer asking prices will be sufficient to argue a lower OMSP if you provide enough of them.
    They have to be dealer prices, not private prices, not auction prices.

    It's up to the appelant to prove the OMSP is wrong, not up to Revenue to prove it is right.
    I take it you would have to pay the higher VRT first and then appeal? Or will they look at the lower prices at the time and decide there and then?


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    Guy:Incognito
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    Bond-007 wrote: »
    I take it you would have to pay the higher VRT first and then appeal? Or will they look at the lower prices at the time and decide there and then?

    There was a guy from the revenue on Gerry Ryan a few weeks back sayign they welcome input into OMSP's of cars, assumign you have deccent info and reasons of course, not just some bloke pitching up in his new import and syaing "I dont want to pay so much VRT"


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    Mailman
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    I'm referring to the appeal process.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Stekelly wrote: »
    There was a guy from the revenue on Gerry Ryan a few weeks back sayign they welcome input into OMSP's of cars, assumign you have deccent info and reasons of course, not just some bloke pitching up in his new import and syaing "I dont want to pay so much VRT"

    wonder how you do that? must look into it!


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