How's life in NZ/Aus?

We Were Promised Jetpacks

Stinicker wrote: »

Feeling a little homesick meself and I'm only here a week now, I love Australia heaps and yesterday driving on the Great Eastern Highway (Kalgoorlie to Perth) with it lashing rain and to see the trees glistening and the parched desert soaking in the precious rain was an experieince that will remain with me for the rest of my life.

Then we went from a Hotel to a Hostel (****hole) and seeing all the Irish there literally living in squalor almost made me cry, I am determined to go back home and help make Ireland a better country. We as a group of people need to stop running away from our problems and tackle them head on.

I have seen Irish in poverty and Australia is only good if you plenty of dollars and is the same as celtic tiger Ireland with inflated prices and an ego to match, the coming collapse of the Chinese property bubble will destroy Australia due to their mineral export led economy and anyone with notions of Australia is a land of riches is kidding themselves. It is only really good for those of us lucky enough to posess a high powered graduate degree, construction workers will see this place dry up too.

Oz is Holiday central, but to live here would be tough.

Is this Afghanistan or Australia you're on about here?

brendansmith

Moosey2Loosey wrote: »

Must be nice to be a " High Powered Graduate ". Do you have x-ray vision? Sure You'll fix Ireland in no time with your high powers.

Funniest post ever.

Stinicker

We Were Promised Jetpacks wrote: »

Is this Afghanistan or Australia you're on about here?

Irish people have this attitude, that they can fly half way accross the world and waltz into a job in Australia on a WHV, sorry mate, but this ain't true, most employers out here have no real interest in WHV applicants but have great time for hard workers who will go to the trouble of trying to organise a proper working visa and the majority of employers have time for these type of Irish and will then sponsor and assist in getting the visa.

Alot of Irish backpackers out here make complete fools of themselves, live in squalor in dumphole hostels and spend most of the time drinking. St. Kilda in Melbourne has alot of these "types" wheras Perth had its share but seemed to attract more genuine jobseekers.

Oz is great don't get me wrong, but idiot backpackers are destroying our rep abroad and are more interested in multiple drinking sessions and will only earn enough to cover booze, lodgings and enough for a daily McDonalds or Hungry Jacks *shudders* -> Hungry Jacks is official toxic waste.

mandrake04

Stinicker wrote: »

Irish people have this attitude, that they can fly half way accross the world and waltz into a job in Australia on a WHV, sorry mate, but this ain't true

Yeah right, I set out with a WHV and $8000 in my back pocket 5 years ago with the intention of getting sponsored, got my first job after 5 weeks and got sponsored on a 457 after 5 months.

I am still here as a Permanent Resident and have just bought a house.

WHV is great for a holiday and a perfect stepping stone to living the dream but only if you got the minerals.

mandrake04

Stinicker wrote: »

Alot of Irish backpackers out here make complete fools of themselves, live in squalor in dumphole hostels and spend most of the time drinking. St. Kilda in Melbourne has alot of these "types" wheras Perth had its share but seemed to attract more genuine jobseekers.

This has to be the only thing you have posted that I agree with, but then places like St. Kilda and Bondi often attract fools. The same fools post here complaining about everything from not getting a job to how nasty the cheap fast food is.

sentient_6

I'm hoping to doing some traveling on a RTW early next year with my girlfriend.......& i'm not exactly looking forward to oz due our rep now cos all the drunken idiots that have gone before. :mad:

Stinicker

mandrake04 wrote: »

Yeah right, I set out with a WHV and $8000 in my back pocket 5 years ago with the intention of getting sponsored, got my first job after 5 weeks and got sponsored on a 457 after 5 months.

I am still here as a Permanent Resident and have just bought a house.

WHV is great for a holiday and a perfect stepping stone to living the dream but only if you got the minerals.

You clearly came prepared and it still took you 5 weeks to get that first toe in to the labour market, fair play to you for doing it and getting that Visa and now Residency, which will probably lead to citizenship ?

Some of the dopes out here are pathetic, but to sentient_6 I wouldn't worry too much about the "REP" I have found the Aussies to be grand people, and so helpful they have good time for the Irish but no people would have time for the sorts that disgrace themselves and our country. I can't comment on Bondi as I will have to wait until Friday before flying upto Sydney but my mate described St. Kilda as "Ballymun down un' " and parts are dodgy by night too.

I find the Aussies to be fine grand people tbh, When using the free wifi in a McDonalds in St. Kilda the last night I was so embarresed to hear 4 dubs ridicule an Aussie girl at the counter on her accent and telling her to speak properly so they could understand. The then made a massive mess firing food and everything on the floor, before making an unwarranted racial comment towards a Japanese guy keeping to himself on the net with a McFlurry. When trying to draw me I was able to speak some accented german which made them think I was german instead. This behaviour seems typical among the idiots who go out there.

mandrake04

Stinicker wrote: »

You clearly came prepared and it still took you 5 weeks to get that first toe in to the labour market, fair play to you for doing it and getting that Visa and now Residency, which will probably lead to citizenship ?

Some of the dopes out here are pathetic, but to sentient_6 I wouldn't worry too much about the "REP" I have found the Aussies to be grand people, and so helpful they have good time for the Irish but no people would have time for the sorts that disgrace themselves and our country. I can't comment on Bondi as I will have to wait until Friday before flying upto Sydney but my mate described St. Kilda as "Ballymun down un' " and parts are dodgy by night too.

I find the Aussies to be fine grand people tbh, When using the free wifi in a McDonalds in St. Kilda the last night I was so embarresed to hear 4 dubs ridicule an Aussie girl at the counter on her accent and telling her to speak properly so they could understand. The then made a massive mess firing food and everything on the floor, before making an unwarranted racial comment towards a Japanese guy keeping to himself on the net with a McFlurry. When trying to draw me I was able to speak some accented german which made them think I was german instead. This behaviour seems typical among the idiots who go out there.

Well I was in Asia for 3 months and only arrived into Sydney on Dec 24th and really didn't start looking till the end of January, its a pretty unique industry I work in and not many jobs crop up that often but I think the stars aligned for me that day. Yeah planning on taking the oath on 26th January 2011.

Ha I think thats funny Ballymun down under, I know what your saying you will probably find Bondi and Bondi Jct a bit like that. Coogee getting a bit like that now as well but not so much.

I find Aussies grand as well, once you understand their humour and they understand yours they are very similar to Irish people.... really the only people who repeatedly bag them on these threads are the losers who stick to the narrow minded Irish abroad Psyche. Those clowns aren't going make it here they have no respect for the rules of the country or Australian people.


To be honest Stinicker really you should try and avoid all the usual bullsh!t Pubs, hostels or dingy accommodation that might be recommended to you by people who have came before you.

Try to avoid hanging about with people who frequent Plastic Paddy pubs, get out yourself and find places that are bit more main stream. Avoid the Bondi trap and places like the Tea gardens... I acknowledge I do go to these places once in a blue moon but their usual clientèle reminds me why I don't go there often.

Really Australia is a great place for a holiday or to live but if you keep going to crap joints you are going to have a crap time.

Stinicker

mandrake04 wrote: »

Well I was in Asia for 3 months and only arrived into Sydney on Dec 24th and really didn't start looking till the end of January, its a pretty unique industry I work in and not many jobs crop up that often but I think the stars aligned for me that day. Yeah planning on taking the oath on 26th January 2011.

Ha I think thats funny Ballymun down under, I know what your saying you will probably find Bondi and Bondi Jct a bit like that. Coogee getting a bit like that now as well but not so much.

I find Aussies grand as well, once you understand their humour and they understand yours they are very similar to Irish people.... really the only people who repeatedly bag them on these threads are the losers who stick to the narrow minded Irish abroad Psyche. Those clowns aren't going make it here they have no respect for the rules of the country or Australian people.


To be honest Stinicker really you should try and avoid all the usual bullsh!t Pubs, hostels or dingy accommodation that might be recommended to you by people who have came before you.

Try to avoid hanging about with people who frequent Plastic Paddy pubs, get out yourself and find places that are bit more main stream. Avoid the Bondi trap and places like the Tea gardens... I acknowledge I do go to these places once in a blue moon but their usual clientèle reminds me why I don't go there often.

Really Australia is a great place for a holiday or to live but if you keep going to crap joints you are going to have a crap time.

Generally as a rule I try and avoid those plasticy places and try and avoid Irish people as well to get more immersed in the local ways, culture and ways, like "how ya going?" "No, Worries"!

I'm only here on Holidays but would definitely live here if the oppurtunity ever arose. Irish Bars are more than annoying and are so fake, I rarely go to them also because of the types that hang out there! If I want to listen to crap Irish music and pay for overpriced Guinness I can do that at home and don't have to fly half way round the world for that!

mandrake04

Really I don't mind crap music or the over priced stout, it's the knackers that bugs me.

FreeAnd..

sentient_6 wrote: »

I'm hoping to doing some traveling on a RTW early next year with my girlfriend.......& i'm not exactly looking forward to oz due our rep now cos all the drunken idiots that have gone before. :mad:

Ha - this is the biggest b0llix misconception...believe me - once you get out of the cities there are basically no irish and most Australians know very little of Irish WHV's...i met about 4 people in 6 months travelling from Perth to Brisbane (and none of these very drunken idiots)....in the citites once you avoid Irish bars its pretty hard to run into these 'drunken idiots' and if you don't work in construction you will be even further removed from that sub culture

FreeAnd..

Stinicker wrote: »

I find the Aussies to be fine grand people tbh, When using the free wifi in a McDonalds in St. Kilda the last night I was so embarresed to hear 4 dubs ridicule an Aussie girl at the counter on her accent and telling her to speak properly so they could understand. The then made a massive mess firing food and everything on the floor, before making an unwarranted racial comment towards a Japanese guy keeping to himself on the net with a McFlurry. When trying to draw me I was able to speak some accented german which made them think I was german instead. This behaviour seems typical among the idiots who go out there.

Being Irish has nothing to do with this - get around enough and you'll find d*ckheads of every culture that act like this (and believe me there's no shortage of Aussies) - pretending you're German though? Most people aren't judgemental enough to tar every nation with the same brush because of a few loud druken idiots - if they we're then no two people from different countries would ever get along

jank

Stinicker wrote: »

I find the Aussies to be fine grand people tbh, When using the free wifi in a McDonalds in St. Kilda the last night I was so embarresed to hear 4 dubs ridicule an Aussie girl at the counter on her accent and telling her to speak properly so they could understand. The then made a massive mess firing food and everything on the floor, before making an unwarranted racial comment towards a Japanese guy keeping to himself on the net with a McFlurry. When trying to draw me I was able to speak some accented german which made them think I was german instead. This behaviour seems typical among the idiots who go out there.

TBH if this carry on upsets you than don't hang out with Irish people like that.
There are loads of idiots in places like Bondi and the like who are just a waste of space. Australia is a great place to go out and meet lots of people from different backgrounds. I am here 6 months and yet to go out on a night out with a bunch of Irish long may it last. I am not going out of my way ignoring them but I didn't have the need to socialise with them.

Not that I wouldn't go on a meet up with guys who are on boards as they seem more genuine but you know the type I am on about. I tend to avoid them like the plague. There are probably just as many Irish people who hate that bunch of Irish retards you described in McDonald's as you. You just have to keep an eye out for them.

Moral of the story. Some Irish are idiots some are not.

You clearly came prepared and it still took you 5 weeks to get that first toe in to the labour market

I arrived into Australia on a Sunday at 6:15 PM, I was working the next Monday morning at 9:00 AM! Hows that for organised! It can be done, although I did cheat a little!

jank

mandrake04 wrote: »

I find Aussies grand as well, once you understand their humour and they understand yours they are very similar to Irish people.... really the only people who repeatedly bag them on these threads are the losers who stick to the narrow minded Irish abroad Psyche. Those clowns aren't going make it here they have no respect for the rules of the country or Australian people.

+ 10000
Moaners moan, others get on with it!

To be honest Stinicker really you should try and avoid all the usual bullsh!t Pubs, hostels or dingy accommodation that might be recommended to you by people who have came before you.

This too! Look up gumtree for temp accomidation and you might get lucky with some cool flatmates who are not the usual 'runken Oirsh.

once you avoid Irish bars its pretty hard to run into these 'drunken idiots' and if you don't work in construction you will be even further removed from that sub culture

Again this is true. Once you work away in a job thats not construction and live in a suburb thats not traditionaly irish like bondi you will rarely meet them. Hardly any Irish live in Surry Hills at least I havent meet them or maybe they are the sort that dont have to wear their county colours to say "Look at meeee! I'm Orish!!" "Really mate, Aussies dont care!"

cmac2009

Hi All

Going over to Oz at the start of October with my girlfriend. We're both working in finance at the moment and having a tough time trying to decide where to "settle" down for the year- Sydney or Melbourne. From what I've heard and read there seems to be a lot more finance type jobs in Sydney and a lot better weather. But Melbourne seems to be recommended the most when I've looked at any threads on this topic. People state that the people are nicer, more culture in the city, better sporting/music events ,restaurants etc. So probably leaning towards Melbourne at the moment. Any advice greatly appreciated.

The Aussie

cmac2009 wrote: »

. People state that the people are nicer.

To be honest, thats a load of cods whollop, it all comes down to personal experiences in either Sydney or Melbourne (BTW im from neither), ive met loads of irish back over in ireland who have had great experiences in both, from the conversations ive had and what ive picked up myself the youngsters fit into the Sydney lifestyle well and the older traveler prefer the swing of melbourne of course there will be exceptions and you might just hear them but this is what ive picked up myself

The Aussie

cmac2009 wrote: »

more culture in the city, better sporting/music events ,restaurants etc.

Forgot to add Yes

Zambia

go to seek.com.au

look for finance jobs after 2 weeks looking you will know where most of the jobs are.


As for Melbourne or sydney .... thats to hard a call I would say sydney as it warmer.

Melbourne has waaaaay more sport and culture.

Stinicker

cmac2009 wrote: »

Hi All

Going over to Oz at the start of October with my girlfriend. We're both working in finance at the moment and having a tough time trying to decide where to "settle" down for the year- Sydney or Melbourne. From what I've heard and read there seems to be a lot more finance type jobs in Sydney and a lot better weather. But Melbourne seems to be recommended the most when I've looked at any threads on this topic. People state that the people are nicer, more culture in the city, better sporting/music events ,restaurants etc. So probably leaning towards Melbourne at the moment. Any advice greatly appreciated.

My mate today said if we could transplant the Melburnians into Sydney it would be perfect; which is debatable tbh. Melbourne is drabish in Winter tbh, I think myself Sydney is a nicer city with better weather but Melbourne is nice too with a nice more laid back attitude and lots of liberal arty types knocking about, Melbourne has the hotter women too. I think Sydney is cheaper than Melbourne and my best advice is don't take any at all and when you get out here try out both places and see what you like best. Perth & WA so far has had the nicest appeal to me but the big cities have their appeal too.

Zambia

Hi I heard this on the way home this morning.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/fire-destroys-newly-arrived-familys-home/story-e6frfku0-1225893703555

A FAMILY of Irish immigrants who arrived in Melbourne only a few days ago have fled their rented house in Melbourne after an open fire roared out of control.

Metropolitan Fire Brigade crews were called to the small brick veneer house in Market Street, St Kilda, shortly after 5pm (AEST) and found the house well alight.

A woman aged in her early 20s used what she thought was lighter fluid to start the fire, but discovered the couch behind them had also caught fire.

Flames soon engulfed the lounge and spread to other rooms.

Although all the occupants escaped the fire, the house was all but destroyed and most of their possessions were lost, an MFB spokesman said.

Firefighters took 20 minutes to control the blaze, which caused an estimated $400,000 damage.


If anyone knows this family I can only sympathise with their very unlucky start to life in Oz. I for one would like to help them get back on track.

Feel free to PM if I can help I will.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/fire-destroys-newly-arrived-familys-home/story-e6frfku0-1225893703555#ixzz0u4db7MMw

Diddler82

jank wrote: »

+ 10000
Moaners moan, others get on with it!



This too! Look up gumtree for temp accomidation and you might get lucky with some cool flatmates who are not the usual 'runken Oirsh.



Again this is true. Once you work away in a job thats not construction and live in a suburb thats not traditionaly irish like bondi you will rarely meet them. Hardly any Irish live in Surry Hills at least I havent meet them or maybe they are the sort that dont have to wear their county colours to say "Look at meeee! I'm Orish!!" "Really mate, Aussies dont care!"

Bondi Road on a Summers evening you are bound to see an overweight Irish girl in a GAA jersey. There should be on the spot fines for this.

Also someone mentioned the Tea Gardens, admittedly I have been in there about 10 times this year but its a dump. I hate the place, the Hot Dogs in the smoking area are the only good thing about the place.

Cock & Bull is not much better, most Sundays its an absolute disgrace the amount of scald merchants knocking about. So many young Irish people as in early 20's ...these are the ones causing the trouble.

The Aussie

Zambia232 wrote: »

most of their possessions were lost, an MFB spokesman said.

this family I can only sympathise with their very unlucky start to life in Oz.

Its hard to even imagine...

Chet Zar

cmac2009 wrote: »

Hi All

Going over to Oz at the start of October with my girlfriend. We're both working in finance at the moment and having a tough time trying to decide where to "settle" down for the year- Sydney or Melbourne. From what I've heard and read there seems to be a lot more finance type jobs in Sydney and a lot better weather. But Melbourne seems to be recommended the most when I've looked at any threads on this topic. People state that the people are nicer, more culture in the city, better sporting/music events ,restaurants etc. So probably leaning towards Melbourne at the moment. Any advice greatly appreciated.

Have heard that Melbourne is really sweet, but friends and people I've talked to over there have said that Sydney is hard to beat and that having been to both they actually prefer Sydney.

Sydney is Sydney at the end of the day....;)

Also don't forget that you can move around once you get over there too.

SIX PACK

Zambia232 wrote: »

Hi I heard this on the way home this morning.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/fire-destroys-newly-arrived-familys-home/story-e6frfku0-1225893703555

A FAMILY of Irish immigrants who arrived in Melbourne only a few days ago have fled their rented house in Melbourne after an open fire roared out of control.

Metropolitan Fire Brigade crews were called to the small brick veneer house in Market Street, St Kilda, shortly after 5pm (AEST) and found the house well alight.

A woman aged in her early 20s used what she thought was lighter fluid to start the fire, but discovered the couch behind them had also caught fire.

Flames soon engulfed the lounge and spread to other rooms.

Although all the occupants escaped the fire, the house was all but destroyed and most of their possessions were lost, an MFB spokesman said.

Firefighters took 20 minutes to control the blaze, which caused an estimated $400,000 damage.


If anyone knows this family I can only sympathise with their very unlucky start to life in Oz. I for one would like to help them get back on track.

Feel free to PM if I can help I will.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/fire-destroys-newly-arrived-familys-home/story-e6frfku0-1225893703555#ixzz0u4db7MMw

Could they not tell the difference between Lighter fluid & Petrol ???

hussey

agggggggggggg

just got an email from emmigration saying still waiting on my medical results, gave medicare a call, they seemed to have misplaced my test, (they still have it on the PC) or it hasn't been sent off or something.... been like this for 6 weeks now .....

grrr ... have to await phonecall to confirm when it will be sent ...

brendansmith

hussey wrote: »

grrr ... have to await phonecall to confirm when it will be sent ...

Await nothing. Ring them everyday with your sob story about how you need it done soon and they will fasttrack your sh1t

hussey

PR has been granted today!

So I applied end of april and granted today, overall 3months ish, with a medical delay of 6weeks in there too!!

I'm too hungover to be happy

Zambia

hussey wrote: »

PR has been granted today!

So I applied end of april and granted today, overall 3months ish, with a medical delay of 6weeks in there too!!

I'm too hungover to be happy

Welcome to Aus!!!!:)

mandrake04

Welcome to the club Hussey

jank

Good stuff! Was that through ENS?