Dublin V Tyrone

Nalced_irl

Just did a test and got 3 upper Hogan so they are still left for other areas.

VERYinterested

I hope this Tyrone supporter makes it to the game on time! (Apologies if already posted)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/aug/13/georgia?picture=336529752

Bluetonic

VERYinterested wrote: »

I hope this Tyrone supporter makes it to the game on time! (Apologies if already posted)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2008/aug/13/georgia?picture=336529752

Brilliant.

MementoMori

Tickets available on Ticketmaster at the moment.

GalwayDub2

S Cluxton, D Henry, R McConnell, P Griffin, C Moran, B Cullen, B Cahill, C Whelan, S Ryan, D Connolly, J Sherlock, K Bonner; A Brogan, C Keaney, T Quinn.

blackbelt

juvenal wrote: »

+1

I think I'm going to have to go a Setanta pub for this one, I've put up with the online stream thus far but this match is too big to leave it to chance online!

I'm surprised Bonner is back in, and to a lesser extent Casey out, but as you said blackbelt, it looks like Caffrey has changed his policy somewhat.

I think Tyrone are going to bring everything that they have to this match, and possibly cross the line on occasion. This is based on past performances, so if it's stays free-flowing and clean and is anything like Kerry-Galway I'll be delighted. I fear this won't be the case though.

Dublin need a very strong and very controlled performance. If they get on top it is possible that they might be enticed into a dogfight, as on paper and in practise they're stronger than Tyrone at the moment. If Tyrone get on top and are leading in the second half, Dublin will have to show their fortitude, step it up and show they deserve to be treated as genuine contenders. Tyrone and any neutral knows that on form and ability alone Dublin are the marginal favourites, but as it usually goes in these situation the form goes out the window. This match will be as much about mental strength as it will be about footballing ability and tactics, and if Dublin have serious designs on getting to the steps of the Hogan Stand in September then this is where they start to prove it.

Dublin need to remain focused on playing their own brand of football and not letting Tyrone get to them whatever tactics the use, if they can beat them on the pitch and in the head, then they should win. This match will reveal a lot about the state of both teams, but I fancy (nervously!) Dublin to prevail. As I've already harped on about, it's utterly imperative that Dublin don't get outfoxed in the mind games or handbagging. If some guff starts, then it's up to Dublin to ensure they remain focused on the match and not start throwning their weight around a lá the Meath game or Omagh a couple of seasons ago. If they can keep their heads and stay strong and away from the handbags but at the same time without getting bullied it will be a big marker. All-Ireland champions will not get involved in playing at their opponent's game, rather put their own stamp on proceedings and this is where Dublin have to prove their credentials. The spine of the team like Cluxton, Cullen, Collie Moran, Whelan, Brogan and Jayo need to show their experience and leadership when it starts getting heated out there. I think the close defeats of the past three years have stood to them, and this is where they can show they've the ability, guile and the calibre to go the distance.

If Dublin get dragged into an arm-wrestling match and both teams have yellow and reds marks all over the match programme come full time, then it's safe to say whoever the winner is won't be winning the All-Ireland this year. Kerry have shown in their past two matches how to lay down a marker without getting into a pissing contest. That's the benchmark for now.

Dublin by less than three.*

*Now that I've called it I'm nervous!:D

This is an excellent post.I have to agree fully with the players that you mentioned in order to show experience and leadership in the time.I'm expecting Tyrone to come out and try and play open football which will suit Dublin as Dublin will outperform Tyrone in this department hands down.This will then lead Tyrone to plan B where they will start the handbags and try to double up on our midfield.

The only thing that I'm woried about Tyrones play apart from the handbags and psychology is their rugby style approach to playing the game.I won't be one bit surprised to see Cavanagh and Mulligan (if he makes the team) drop to the middle to join Enda McGinley and try and overcrowd the midfield in an attempt to block out Whelan and Ryan.Mickey Harte will undoubtedly use this tactic of doubling up on our midfielders to gain an edge.He is that predictable that I really hope Pillar has the cop on to realise this,you can read Harte like a book these days.I just hope Pillar has a contingency plan to counter Hartes tactics but as has been said,Dublin will also need to concentrate on their own game.

It will be hard to do though as I feel the aforementioned tactics that Tyrone employ ie doubling up,will cause Dublin to stray.Watch the second half of Dublin v Tyrone in the 05 replay to see what I mean.We only scored 4 points in that second half.The encouraging thing about then and now is that Shane Ryan is twice as good now so Tyrone will be in big trouble to deal with him.I hope he won't be targetted or Whelan for that matter such as in the Westmeath and Wexford games.

All in all,midfield will be the crucial area.Dublin have the forwards to beat Tyrone and our defense should hold up.They have learned big lessons over the years.Cluxton better leave his annual cockup til the next game as Tyrone are more likely to capitalise.I think Tyrones best chance of keeping in touch in the early going will be to "earn" free kicks in front of goal and pray they go over.Cavanagh is the main threat I think.I'll be watching Dooher and McMenamin like a hawk.Going on the game against Westmeath,"Ricey" and Dooher have this incredible knack of trying to get inside players heads.I think if they can't get in pyschologically,they will try physically ie small sly digs off the ball.

I think the players have the cop on now to hold their ground but not get involved to the degree in which there are stoppages etc.We need to beat Tyrone and get one over on them.I wouldn't envy Wexford if Dublin do get through and if Dublin go on to beat Wexford and Kerry do hammer Cork in Croke Park,Dublin should be in the driving seat.

Yavvy

yep agree with you two... I love this time of year.... C'Mon the dubs !!

Truck

Whoever wins , wexford will give them a test ! Ryan will study both teams and have an effective gameplan that he can adapt if needed. Armagh learned this the hard way.

Although I still think Dublin are looking strong this year.

premierstone

Truck wrote: »

Whoever wins , wexford will give them a test ! Ryan will study both teams and have an effective gameplan that he can adapt if needed. Armagh learned this the hard way.

Yeah he got it fairly spot on in the leinster final :P

Truck

premierstone wrote: »

Yeah he got it fairly spot on in the leinster final :P

Dublin got a run at us in the second half, but man what a hammering

Guisseppeth

As a Tyrone fan I obviously hope we beat Dublin on Saturday but will agree that on paper Dublin are favourites - not as big a favourites as the media would have you believe though but slight favourites. As per usual the press, media and the Dublin fans I work with are getting carried away again with the usual "this is our year" etc etc. I mean 98FM (or whatever they are called) already have a song about Dublin winning and Brogan collecting the All Ireland - they are only in a quarter final and its against Tyrone, All Ireland Champions twice in the last 5 years..... Nothing won yet!!!

As for Tyrone being the most cynical/dirty team in Ireland - I'm obviously biased but I don't think this is the case. In fact I'd go as far as to say that they are no more cynical or dirty than any other team in Ireland. They are no angels and on occasions some players step over the line (McMenamin particularly) but does this mean the entire team need to be tarred with the same brush?? As one poster earlier said about Dublin "they give 100% and play to the limit and refuse to be intimidated" - in my opinion Tyrone do this yet we are called cynical and dirty - whats the difference?? I think a lot of it is down to the blanket defence employed on occasion and how this looks to the supporters - it invariably leads to more fouls than when it is not employed but this doesn't make the team dirty. Also when a team is successful people need something to beat them down with - in the 90's Meath were dirty, in the early 00's Tyrone/Armagh are dirty, in the later 00's Dublin are arrogant, disresectful to opposition etc etc etc. Its just something that happens when you are successful and to be honest its like water off a ducks back to most Tyrone fans.

Finally maybe its just me but Collie Moran is the most over rated player on that current Dublin team. If he is so good why can't he tie down a regular starting position. I've lost count of the number of different positions he plays and I know the "modern game is different and positions don't matter much" but if he was that good he should be able to make a position his own. To me the Dublin player who gets overlooked the most is Conal Keaney - brilliant full forward who can win ball, make and take scores.

Through red and white tinted specs - Tyrone by 2 :-)

VERYinterested

Guisseppeth wrote: »

I mean 98FM (or whatever they are called) already have a song about Dublin winning and Brogan collecting the All Ireland - they are only in a quarter final and its against Tyrone, All Ireland Champions twice in the last 5 years..... Nothing won yet!!!

Not sure if it's the same 'song' you refer to but FM104 have a stupid parody of the Ting Tings, 'That's not my name' and I cringe every time they play it on the radio as I am sure every Dublin fan does, bet the boys in 104 p!ss themselves at how clever the song is. All together, 'we come from Swords and Cabinteely, we'll win the game... Please no, end this now! Concerned Dublin fan.

GalwayDub2

Thank God we dont hear any of that ****e down here!! :eek: Does anyone know if Drumcondra station is MENTAL after a Dublin match? Have to get back to Maynooth afterwards to pick up the car

Kinetic^

Truck wrote: »

Dublin got a run at us in the second half, but man what a hammering

It was as if they got rolled by a truck! :pac:

Finally confirmed my ticket today, not sure where it is but I have 1

Guisseppeth

VERYinterested wrote: »

Not sure if it's the same 'song' you refer to but FM104 have a stupid parody of the Ting Tings, 'That's not my name' and I cringe every time they play it on the radio as I am sure every Dublin fan does, bet the boys in 104 p!ss themselves at how clever the song is. All together, 'we come from Swords and Cabinteely, we'll win the game... Please no, end this now! Concerned Dublin fan.

Thats the one..........

MementoMori

VERYinterested wrote: »

Not sure if it's the same 'song' you refer to but FM104 have a stupid parody of the Ting Tings, 'That's not my name' and I cringe every time they play it on the radio as I am sure every Dublin fan does, bet the boys in 104 p!ss themselves at how clever the song is. All together, 'we come from Swords and Cabinteely, we'll win the game... Please no, end this now! Concerned Dublin fan.

And that's why I don't listen to FM104. Come on people use the dial. Vote with your ears.

Nalced_irl

Yea, the best course of action to avoid such silly songs is to listen to CDs instead. Always music you like without the tools that DJ on the radio these days.

No real surprises with the starting 15 there. Should be one hell of a game. Cant wait!

The Rooster

Guisseppeth wrote: »

Finally maybe its just me but Collie Moran is the most over rated player on that current Dublin team. If he is so good why can't he tie down a regular starting position. I've lost count of the number of different positions he plays and I know the "modern game is different and positions don't matter much" but if he was that good he should be able to make a position his own.

How can he be "over rated" if nobody ever says a good word about him!!

Personally I think he's had a good championship so far, and I think he's well good enough to be in the Dublin defence. He has had his fair share of poor games for the Dubs, but thats always been when he's been picked as a forward.

Dublin have picked the best available half back line. Casey is a tireless worker and a decent defender and would die for the cause, but he simply hasn't got the football ability of the others. I think Pillar's got it right to use him as a sub - he's more effective when the game becomes fragmented.

The Ross McConnell recall is interesting. Last year I thought we were wasting our time with him, that he'd never be a full back but could be a decent midfielder. But in fairness to him he had a very good league campaign. He did suffer against Denis Glennon, but Glennon was on fire that day, and he made equal mince meat of Barry Cahill in the league final. When Ross was moved off Glennon he played well again and I thought was a tad unlucky to be taken off and then dropped.

So I'm happy enough to see him back, I assume his confidence hasn't been hit, and he'll add some height in there. Although I wonder will our tactics change if Sean Cavanaugh is not picked at 14?

Nalced_irl

The Rooster wrote: »

How can he be "over rated" if nobody ever says a good word about him!!

Personally I think he's had a good championship so far, and I think he's well good enough to be in the Dublin defence. He has had his fair share of poor games for the Dubs, but thats always been when he's been picked as a forward.

Dublin have picked the best available half back line. Casey is a tireless worker and a decent defender and would die for the cause, but he simply hasn't got the football ability of the others. I think Pillar's got it right to use him as a sub - he's more effective when the game becomes fragmented.

The Ross McConnell recall is interesting. Last year I thought we were wasting our time with him, that he'd never be a full back but could be a decent midfielder. But in fairness to him he had a very good league campaign. He did suffer against Denis Glennon, but Glennon was on fire that day, and he made equal mince meat of Barry Cahill in the league final. When Ross was moved off Glennon he played well again and I thought was a tad unlucky to be taken off and then dropped.

So I'm happy enough to see him back, I assume his confidence hasn't been hit, and he'll add some height in there. Although I wonder will our tactics change if Sean Cavanaugh is not picked at 14?

Agreed, most of what is said about Collie seems to be negative so i dont see how he is meant to be over rated. If anything i would say he is under rated this year. I think he has had a solid championship thus far, not doing anything spectacular, but not making many mistakes either.

Guisseppeth

Maybe I just have a bee in my bonnet about Moran then :P

I was kinda responding to an earlier thread when a few users talked about the spine of the team and had Moran in there with Cullen, Sherlock, Whelan, Brogan and Cluxton. Doesn't deserved to be mentioned in the same sentence as those lads in my opinion.

Looking forward to the game. Hopefully it will be a good one. Wonder who will cope better with the the expected heavy rain?? The Dubs always seem to get a scorcher of a day in Croker but not this weekend.

blackbelt

Have to disagree with you here Nalced.Casey out,McConnell back in and Bonner starting are surprises for me.A lot changes when Griffin came back and Bonner may be given another chance.

However,saying this,Pillar might just make a change before throw in and put Bernard Brogan in place of Bonner.I'll take every named starting 15 with a pinch of salt.I really hope Bonner brings his club form to this game.I feel he is starting to slip out of the panel if he fails to deliver.He's been around a good few years now and he needs to prove his worth if he is to keep his place.We have plenty of younger forwards coming in such as McManoman,McMahon and John O Brien and God knows what talent may be unearthed in next years O Byrne Cup and National League.

modmuffin

More Moran-bashing!

Prior to the Wexford game Moran hadnt conceded a score from play in league or championship (2008) from a direct opponent while he has been marking them
(*players he had been marking scored after he had moved into a different position*)
*I didnt see all of the wexford game as i am away so im not sure if his man scored, i heard he got the run-around a bit early on though.

He´s also scored a point or 2 in almost every game.
Thats pretty damn impressive in my opinion and i doubt many other defenders in the counrty can boast a similar record

The reason he gets moved around so much is because he´s experienced, committed, versatile and has a good footballing brain. His versatility doesnt do him any favours as management will always use him as a stop-gap to "do a job" for the team. which is a thankless job.

Personally im delighted to see him back in the halfbackline and i hope he stays there all the way to the final!

My main concern for sunday is if Kavaghnagh plays at 11 and gets a run at Cullen, Cullen was exposed against mayo 2 years ago and Kavaghnagh has the ability to do the same again.

Hoping to see Bernard introduced as early as possible and hoping for another big game from Alan, Ryan and Keaney

Blue Army

Yavvy

im a little concerned, i find myself agreeing with Blackbelt way too much . I think Collie is past his best now, in fact i dont think he ever really recovered from that injury a couple of years back.

I wrote Jayo off 3 years ago and hes has had 3 great seasons so lets hope its the same situation !!

Nalced_irl

Happy days, got my tickets anyway. Not Hill this time but can deal with that

DeepBlue

It's somewhat surprising that most Dub supporters on this thread are very tentative about tipping Dublin to win.
Tyrone have been decidedly unimpressive so far in the championship and seem to have stuttered and stumbled to their present position whereas Dublin have demolished Wexford in the Leinster final and seem to be full of running.

Is it a case that the supporters don't want to jinx it or are perhaps worried that, mentally, Dublin might be suspect given the weight of media attention they get? On paper it would seem that Dublin should win this one comfortably enough - perhaps by 4 to 6 points.

blackbelt

DeepBlue wrote: »

It's somewhat surprising that most Dub supporters on this thread are very tentative about tipping Dublin to win.
Tyrone have been decidedly unimpressive so far in the championship and seem to have stuttered and stumbled to their present position whereas Dublin have demolished Wexford in the Leinster final and seem to be full of running.

Is it a case that the supporters don't want to jinx it or are perhaps worried that, mentally, Dublin might be suspect given the weight of media attention they get? On paper it would seem that Dublin should win this one comfortably enough - perhaps by 4 to 6 points.

I think any level headed Dublin supporter would tentatively pick Dublin as winners.It is not an open and shut match by any means.Take last year for example.Dublin were tested by Meath and Laois which would have done them a favour and prepared them for the quarter against what was a very dangerous Derry side at the time.Last year the posters on here predicted Dublin to win confidently but in no way was there any cockiness or inevitability about it and the Dubs pulled through thanks to Jayo,Bernard,Keaney and Cluxton in particular.

The year before that,Dublin were red hot favourites to beat Westmeath at the same stage and did just that.Then they were in the same position for the Mayo match and that didn't go according to plan.This year Dublin have only really been tested by Westmeath while the Leinster Final second half was not very competitive at all.I think us Dublin posters are very weary of that and are keeping our feet on the ground which is a good sign.The less hype the better and with Dublin posters on here,that is the type of treatment Dublin should be getting and other media outlets should follow our example instead of unfairly pressuring the team which is a major disadvantage.

Het-Field

DeepBlue wrote: »

It's somewhat surprising that most Dub supporters on this thread are very tentative about tipping Dublin to win.
Tyrone have been decidedly unimpressive so far in the championship and seem to have stuttered and stumbled to their present position whereas Dublin have demolished Wexford in the Leinster final and seem to be full of running.

Is it a case that the supporters don't want to jinx it or are perhaps worried that, mentally, Dublin might be suspect given the weight of media attention they get? On paper it would seem that Dublin should win this one comfortably enough - perhaps by 4 to 6 points.

Blackbelt has said it all. As a Dublin fan who has been attending Croker in 1992 as a 7 year old, I have learnt that nothing is a done deal with the Dubs.

1992 Dublin were overwhelming favourites against Donegal. Didnt transpire that way

1994 Dublin had the chance to redress a 8 point defecit against Down with a penalty. Charlie Redmond and Jonny Barr out pay to that

1996 Dublin's mentality let them down in the Lenister Final, and it almost let them down in Navan against a poor Louth team

1997 Paul Bealin misses a penalty which could have drawn the game against Meath

1998 Wide after wide against Kildare from kickable positions

2000 6 point lead flitted away against Kildare with 2 second half goals by the lillywhites

2001 Wayne McCarthy's dropped free against Kerry, and Martin Cahill & Davy Byrne's monumental cock up in the first seconds against Meath

2002 Ray Cosgrove's free against Armagh

2003 Stephan Cluxton's rush of blood against Armagh

2006 Mayo. Says it all

I state these from the persepective of games which were winnable (either on paper or on the field).

Flukey

Het-field, we can all pick out statistics like that. Tyrone could pick a lot more of them than us. 1995 is certainly a very relevant case, for Tyrone missing out and for us breaking that run of disappointments. Anyway, none of the above statistics relate to 2008, which is all we can talk about for now. We still have 20 All-Irelands more than Tyrone do, and hope to make it 21 more than them in September. We should win on Saturday and take another step towards that goal.

juvenal

Guisseppeth wrote: »

Maybe I just have a bee in my bonnet about Moran then :P

I was kinda responding to an earlier thread when a few users talked about the spine of the team and had Moran in there with Cullen, Sherlock, Whelan, Brogan and Cluxton. Doesn't deserved to be mentioned in the same sentence as those lads in my opinion.

Looking forward to the game. Hopefully it will be a good one. Wonder who will cope better with the the expected heavy rain?? The Dubs always seem to get a scorcher of a day in Croker but not this weekend.

I was referring to those players as the spine from an championship experience and footballing ability point of view. They are the senior players and their influence on how the team performs is fairly strong.

Moran has a tendency to go missing at times, absolutely, but he also has the ability to do a quietly effective job without the obvious contributions you'd see like 70yd runs a lá Shane Ryan. The senior players will have no excuses to hide behind if Dublin wilt or get involved in argy-bargy. They've been around long enough to know what it takes to win matches, and if they seriously consider themselves capable as a team of winning an All-Ireland, Saturday is the time to start to prove it.

aidan24326

DeepBlue wrote: »

It's somewhat surprising that most Dub supporters on this thread are very tentative about tipping Dublin to win.
Tyrone have been decidedly unimpressive so far in the championship and seem to have stuttered and stumbled to their present position whereas Dublin have demolished Wexford in the Leinster final and seem to be full of running.

I agree, Tyrone have been unimpressive (nowhere near the team they were in '05) but I can kinda understand why Dublin supporters would be tentative. This Dublin team has given them enough thrils, spills and rollercoaster rides at this stage that you can take nothing for granted. They can be equal parts brilliant and terrible all within the same game. A frustrating team to support I would think!

But the team with the better forward line usually wins, and in this case that means Dublin.

Prediction: Dubs 1-15 Tyrone 1-11

The Rooster

I think the Wexford and Louth games are largely irrelevant in judging this game. The Westmeath game is the one to look at, as Tyrone will try and play it similarly tight.

Dublin struggled against Westmeath, and just about got over the line.

Tyrone are a big step up from Westmeath, and while they havent played particularly well this year, there is no doubt that playing against Dublin in front of a packed Croke Park will bring out the best in them. There are 12 All Ireland medal winners involved in this Tyrone squad, many with 2, and they have a manager with 2 All Ireland wins. Plus there are many players from both sides who played when Tyrone emerged victorious when they met in the All Ireland quarter final a couple of years ago.

If Dublin do win, it'll be their biggest win since 1995 IMO, and that added pressure can take its toll!

Flukey

On a slightly separate note, a bit of advice for tomorrow. As there is only one match being played the crowd will be arriving over a much shorter space of time. There will therefore be bigger queues at the stiles. I for one intend to get in early to avoid some of that. As usual of course, the Dublin fans will be exclusively blamed for the large crowd trying to get in and a possible delay in the throw-in. In reality it will be down to the fact that there will be no earlier game to spread out the time the crowd comes in, and to a lot of fans of both counties arriving in late. So get in early, very early.

The Rooster

I thought I heard there was a women's football match on as a curtain raiser?

cruiserweight

The Rooster wrote: »

I thought I heard there was a women's football match on as a curtain raiser?

Two womens games AFAIK.

Yavvy

ah yeah that will solve the problem..at least 50% of the crowd will be in early to see them... if only. Like Flukey says get there early, have a Pint from the guinness tent and chillax yo!

Het-Field

The Rooster wrote: »

I think the Wexford and Louth games are largely irrelevant in judging this game. The Westmeath game is the one to look at, as Tyrone will try and play it similarly tight.

Dublin struggled against Westmeath, and just about got over the line.

Tyrone are a big step up from Westmeath, and while they havent played particularly well this year, there is no doubt that playing against Dublin in front of a packed Croke Park will bring out the best in them. There are 12 All Ireland medal winners involved in this Tyrone squad, many with 2, and they have a manager with 2 All Ireland wins. Plus there are many players from both sides who played when Tyrone emerged victorious when they met in the All Ireland quarter final a couple of years ago.

If Dublin do win, it'll be their biggest win since 1995 IMO, and that added pressure can take its toll!

While I agree that Dublin will find it difficult, I think it is very wrong to pick and choose games to find similarities. Dublin played exceptionally well against Wexford, and to discount it as unrepresentative is completely unfair. Furthermmore, if you were to take the Westmeath in isolation, the Dublin should be favourites. Tyrone scraped over the line with Westmeath at 13 men

In 1997 and 1998 there were plenty of All Ireland winners in the Dublin team, and they showed little or no prowess in those seasons. Tryone have been beaten by Laois and Meath in the past 2 championships. Therefore, the former winners medal dont necessairly count for much

cruiserweight

Tyrone (SFC v Dublin) - J Devine; R McMenamin, Justin McMahon, C Gormley; D Harte, C Gormley, P Jordan; R Mellon, E McGinley; B Dooher, B McGuigan, Joe McMahon; T McGuigan, S Cavanagh, C McCullagh.

Marse

DeepBlue wrote: »

It's somewhat surprising that most Dub supporters on this thread are very tentative about tipping Dublin to win.
Tyrone have been decidedly unimpressive so far in the championship and seem to have stuttered and stumbled to their present position whereas Dublin have demolished Wexford in the Leinster final and seem to be full of running.

Is it a case that the supporters don't want to jinx it or are perhaps worried that, mentally, Dublin might be suspect given the weight of media attention they get? On paper it would seem that Dublin should win this one comfortably enough - perhaps by 4 to 6 points.

I thought the same when Kerry faced Tyrone in the final a few years ago and I was proved wrong. Just look at Wexford last week. I mean they were never given a chance against Armagh. Tyrone haven't been playing well, but they have the experience of wining these big games. As with the Kerry V Dublin game last year proved, experience in these games counts for alot.

Yavvy

Bring your Wellies tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!

Issued at 15 August 2008 - 12:30
Warning of Severe Weather.
Valid from 1500 Friday 15/8/08 to 1200 Monday 18/8/08.

It will be very unsettled and changeable this weekend, with rainbelts set to move in across the country from the Atlantic from time to time, to be followed in turn by brighter more showery weather. The rainfall from the rain-belts and indeed some of the showers, will be heavy, with some thundery downpours at times. Totals in excess of 50mm are likely in some places, with parts of the East, North and West most at risk. The water table remains high and some further flooding can be expected.
An especially active rainbelt will move in off the Atlantic later today and tonight and will affect much of the country on Saturday, and so this is when the heaviest rainfall episode is likely to occur, with Leinster ( including Dublin), Ulster and parts of Connacht especially at risk.

Nalced_irl

blackbelt wrote: »

I think any level headed Dublin supporter would tentatively pick Dublin as winners.It is not an open and shut match by any means.Take last year for example.Dublin were tested by Meath and Laois which would have done them a favour and prepared them for the quarter against what was a very dangerous Derry side at the time.Last year the posters on here predicted Dublin to win confidently but in no way was there any cockiness or inevitability about it and the Dubs pulled through thanks to Jayo,Bernard,Keaney and Cluxton in particular.

The year before that,Dublin were red hot favourites to beat Westmeath at the same stage and did just that.Then they were in the same position for the Mayo match and that didn't go according to plan.This year Dublin have only really been tested by Westmeath while the Leinster Final second half was not very competitive at all.I think us Dublin posters are very weary of that and are keeping our feet on the ground which is a good sign.The less hype the better and with Dublin posters on here,that is the type of treatment Dublin should be getting and other media outlets should follow our example instead of unfairly pressuring the team which is a major disadvantage.

Agreed. Other counties hate constantly hearing "Dublin this, Dublin that" but so do we in reality. There is no doubt it affects the team and makes them think they are already lifting Sam. On paper i would say we should definately beat them with a few points to spare but i think it comes down to mentality really. Tyrone will raise their game tomorrow and there is no doubting that. If we are wrong mentally we could well lose this. I think we will edge it but not by much. Always hard to find a nice middle ground against a team like Tyrone. They are skillful and strong so we have to be physical yet play our game. We could easily concentrate too much on the physical side as i think we did against Kerry last year, or else try and play too much and get beaten physically.

PS. Im gonna be out all night tonight so chances of me being in any state in Madugans is slim! Ill bail in so you can slag off my hungover state tho.

mel123

Alany wrote: »

Bring your Wellies tomorrow !!!!!!!!!!!

Issued at 15 August 2008 - 12:30
Warning of Severe Weather.
Valid from 1500 Friday 15/8/08 to 1200 Monday 18/8/08.

It will be very unsettled and changeable this weekend, with rainbelts set to move in across the country from the Atlantic from time to time, to be followed in turn by brighter more showery weather. The rainfall from the rain-belts and indeed some of the showers, will be heavy, with some thundery downpours at times. Totals in excess of 50mm are likely in some places, with parts of the East, North and West most at risk. The water table remains high and some further flooding can be expected.
An especially active rainbelt will move in off the Atlantic later today and tonight and will affect much of the country on Saturday, and so this is when the heaviest rainfall episode is likely to occur, with Leinster ( including Dublin), Ulster and parts of Connacht especially at risk.

What will happen if the weather is extremly bad, like last Saturday afternoon when it was at its worst? Would it get cancelled?

Nalced_irl

mel123 wrote: »

What will happen if the weather is extremly bad, like last Saturday afternoon when it was at its worst? Would it get cancelled?

Could do but it would need to be horribly bad id say. Croker has a state of the art drainage system which keeps the pitch perfect even in terrible weather so it would need to be a case that the players cant see the end of the pitch almost.

Het-Field

Lightning appeared to be the organisers sole concern. "A thin film of water would provide a conductor" was what was said on the paper on tuesday

Nalced_irl

Het-Field wrote: »

Lightning appeared to be the organisers sole concern. "A thin film of water would provide a conductor" was what was said on the paper on tuesday

Thats very true of course. Happened before in the US i think when the entire pitch became electrified and loads of players rushed to hospital.

GalwayDub2

I hope to JAYSUS outside wont be flooded again, it was a bloody nightmare getting back to the car last week, we parked in Clonliffe College, 2 seconds walk away from the lower hogan and had to walk around the canal and back around to it because Jones Road was flooded...:(

Flukey

The Artane, Garda and St. Michael's of Enniskillen's Bands have conductors but never did any harm in Croke Park.:) Seriously, I can't see it being as bad as last Saturday. That was a completely freak event. Whatever the conditions, the matches will go ahead. There are two women's games before the big match, but they won't draw much of a crowd in. So get in early.

taidghbaby

VERYinterested wrote: »

Not sure if it's the same 'song' you refer to but FM104 have a stupid parody of the Ting Tings, 'That's not my name' and I cringe every time they play it on the radio as I am sure every Dublin fan does, bet the boys in 104 p!ss themselves at how clever the song is. All together, 'we come from Swords and Cabinteely, we'll win the game... Please no, end this now! Concerned Dublin fan.

ammunition anyone......

MementoMori

taidghbaby wrote: »

ammunition anyone......

to attack this mockery of a radio station, for sure. I'll even provide it at cost if you promise to wipe out all of the staff.

Seriously though I doubt this will be a factor in the game one way or the other

Flukey

The National Roads Authority are saying that people should only take to the roads if absolutely necessary over the weekend because of the weather. So as people will only be travelling for essential reasons, there will be a full house tomorrow.

Mr. Incognito

You know call me crazy but I can see this going tow ways- either Dublin will run up a huge lead in the first half and run away with it or Tyrone will grind out anouther one point win. I just can't say which is more likely.