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How do I measure progress/imporvement
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11-08-2008 5:38pm#1
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From my experience I would go with cadency and actual speed you're able to keep. For example at the beggining closing to 30kmph on falt was bit harsh as keeping cadency at 100. Now I keep cadency at 100-115 which gives me 32-35kmph on flat. I commute to work every day 15km one way. Ofcourse I don't count in junctions, lights, traffic. As Eagle said get yourself cycling computer and see what values you get cadency/hr. If you feel you can go with cadency around 90-95 on certain gear all way and you feel ok, try to make it bit harder. After some time you will see effects. I noticed that changing cadency makes big difference on HR. If you base your training on your HR this will increase your stamina I'd say. Cadency will make your legs stronger. But I might be wrong
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FrankGrimes wrote: »omri - do you really have an average cadence of 90+ per minute? Wow, that sounds mad to me cos I'm at the opposite end of the scale - think for average journeys where I'm averaging 27 km/h I have a cadence of about 60. Different strokes for different folks eh? Please shoot me for the pun.
Yes. I'm keeping it round 100-115 depends on wind/no wind condtitions. Speed goes up to 35kmph. Though if I change gear to keep same speed at lower cadence I got tired pretty quickly. I could go bit faster on smaller gears but would cross my chain and thats soo lame Need to work on overal strength/stamina I suppose. 0 -
On the weight issue, have always been bug - partly as a result of playing hooker in rugby - putting weight on is the real issue, not losing it. My weight is disproportionately spread however - have very little body fat on my legs, but a serious amout on my torso. I guess the main improvement I can make is to cut down on the amount that I eat.
Last year I've been fasting for 7.5 days drinking just 2l of water every day. It's bit hard for first 3 days. As you get terrible headaches. But whenever your body switches to taking all "food" from all bad stuff that dwells in our bodies due to bad nutrition habits it gets much easier. Ofcourse only thing you can do then is slow, relaxing walks. But you can truely loose few kilos. Than it takes same amount of days to get back to normal eating but from that point you can easily change your regular diet. Believe me, everything smells and tastes better. Even stuff you don't like
and it has great effect on your health as well. Your body is clean and almost like new although idea might sound bit crazy. I will do it again, this time full 12 days... 0 -
Last year I've been fasting for 7.5 days drinking just 2l of water every day. It's bit hard for first 3 days. As you get terrible headaches. But whenever your body switches to taking all "food" from all bad stuff that dwells in our bodies due to bad nutrition habits it gets much easier. Ofcourse only thing you can do then is slow, relaxing walks. But you can truely loose few kilos. Than it takes same amount of days to get back to normal eating but from that point you can easily change your regular diet. Believe me, everything smells and tastes better. Even stuff you don't like and it has great effect on your health as well. Your body is clean and almost like new although idea might sound bit crazy. I will do it again, this time full 12 days...
Hang on - are you saying that you ate nothing for 7.5days and only took in 2litres of water each day... and you are considering doing this for 12days?
Did anyone advise you to do this?0 -
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omri, that sounds absolutely crazy. If trying to lose weight you need to do something you can sustain and that is not going to kill you or do you serious damage. You need to look at your diet and make sensible choices. What you are saying there is not sustainable in any way.Last year I've been fasting for 7.5 days drinking just 2l of water every day. It's bit hard for first 3 days. As you get terrible headaches. But whenever your body switches to taking all "food" from all bad stuff that dwells in our bodies due to bad nutrition habits it gets much easier. Ofcourse only thing you can do then is slow, relaxing walks. But you can truely loose few kilos. Than it takes same amount of days to get back to normal eating but from that point you can easily change your regular diet. Believe me, everything smells and tastes better. Even stuff you don't like and it has great effect on your health as well. Your body is clean and almost like new although idea might sound bit crazy. I will do it again, this time full 12 days...
I had sustained successful weight loss from mainly watching my diet and excercise which in retrospect was pretty dead on for fat burning. I would eat very little calorie-wise (but enough in volume) and go for long cycles at a gentle pace. Key to this was the eat very little bit- but such that I could sustain the diet for up to a year. Typically this meant watching carefully what I ate and eating lots of stuff that didn't have much calories in it. A fair bit of pasta with tomato-based sauce was consumed. I never ate on the bike (I do now) and only bonked once- basically when I was done with the weight loss and didn't have the fat stores any more. Started eating on the bike at that stage.
I must say that during all of this I did NOT have headaches or any other problems whatsoever. If I felt hungry I would eat something quick sharp, I would just make sure it was something with next to no calories in it. Very quickly got into a routine where I was not in any difficulty, able to cycle up to 700km a week without coming off the diet, and most particularly was able to sustain it day after day, week after week, relatively painlessly. Did allow myself a bit of a pig out once a week but kept it under some control.0 -
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Just as a rough guide, how much are people eating on spins? Most of my cycling these days is in the hills, with a few 30 or 40k flattish spins during the week. I've been trying to shift a bit of poundage myself, and I'd say I'm close to my optimum weight, but am wary of undereating on a spin because of the dreaded bonk.
My last spin, about 70k loop up the SallyGap from Kilbride/Bohernabreena, I ate 3 fig roll bars, a banana, drank a coke (not my usual choice, but I was stuck) and a litre of blackcurrant juice/water/salt potion. I'd happily forgo the food if I thought it wouldn't drain the power from my legs. The rest of the time I mainly eat salads, fish/chicken, pulses. Also eat oatmeal every morning, and usually have a bowl an hour or so before a longish spin. I avoid most stuff with sugar. I've been surprised at how slow the shift has been, as I've been doing more and more kms each week. 0 -
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Well J.C. fasted for 40 days and survived But seriously I did some research about it before I decided to do that. Up to 12 days is safe and ok to do it on your own but I wouldn't advise to do it for the first time. Beyond 12 days I think it's around 3 weeks you should consult it with GP and do regular checking every week or so as at that point your body is starting to using your muscles for energy it needs. Ofcourse there are different types of fasting methods. You can go just with water or you can go with juice only. Really depends on what you want to get from it. I'm not sayin it right way to loose weight I don't actually. It's good start if you want to change your nutrition habits and start living healthier. The main reason I did that is because I suffer of some illness. Few years ago I just got sick after food that I've been eating my whole life as milk, creams, deep oil fried food, mayo etc etc, usually it came along tough stomachaches. So I had to change my diet. Wasn't easy. Anyway bad nutrition habits make your body/stomach full of junk. Bad nutrition is when you mix products that shouldn't been eaten at the same time like for example bread and meat (ham etc.). This is because they have different time of digestion. So what happens is in this case, bread is digested faster, sticks to ham that suppose to be digested later, and stays somewhere in your belly or wherever. I'm not sayin it's big amount but enough to build up quite a big waste pile in our bodies. When you fast your body don't get food from outside and starts (after certain time) to use all the junk (bad junk - it's not eating your muscles or organs till certain time round 3rd week or so) to get energy it requires. It usually takes around 3 days of time to switch to internal feeding. And that's the worst part. At least when I did it for the first time. Your body demands food which you don't provide so you get headaches (I felt like my head, eyes, teeth wanted to kill me). It can be really tough but then everything goes away and you feel normal. Ofcourse you are much weaker but you don't feel hungry. Important thing is to drink enough water. Then what I think is hardest part of it is coming out of fasting which should take same amount of time. If you fast 12 days you should take another 12 to get back to normal nutrition so it's advised to split it into few periods and in first period drink juice with water for few days, than pure juice, than juice + eat some nuts etc. I lost few kilos I think around 3. But I've never had problems with my weight. Anyway I'm not a doctor so won't say do it. I felt much better after it. Really refreshed from the inside. Skin gets better. After such a start you want eat healthy food. Also what I've read it is recomended to do it once a year. I'm fan of it will do it again. It's not easy you need to decide to go all way no matter what. You can go to work but as I said you feel weak. It's advised though to stay at home, wear some warm clothes, get hot/cold shower ever few hours and go for two half an hour walks per day. 0
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Last year I've been fasting for 7.5 days drinking just 2l of water every day. It's bit hard for first 3 days. As you get terrible headaches. But whenever your body switches to taking all "food" from all bad stuff that dwells in our bodies due to bad nutrition habits it gets much easier. Ofcourse only thing you can do then is slow, relaxing walks. But you can truely loose few kilos. Than it takes same amount of days to get back to normal eating but from that point you can easily change your regular diet. Believe me, everything smells and tastes better. Even stuff you don't like and it has great effect on your health as well. Your body is clean and almost like new although idea might sound bit crazy. I will do it again, this time full 12 days...
Emmmm no thanks, I've worked hard to put on muscle on my legs, lots of gym work and many many miles, while I want to shift another kilo I want it to be fat not muscle.0 -
Last year I've been fasting for 7.5 days drinking just 2l of water every day. It's bit hard for first 3 days. As you get terrible headaches. But whenever your body switches to taking all "food" from all bad stuff that dwells in our bodies due to bad nutrition habits it gets much easier. Ofcourse only thing you can do then is slow, relaxing walks. But you can truely loose few kilos. Than it takes same amount of days to get back to normal eating but from that point you can easily change your regular diet. Believe me, everything smells and tastes better. Even stuff you don't like and it has great effect on your health as well. Your body is clean and almost like new although idea might sound bit crazy. I will do it again, this time full 12 days...
Whoah! That actually sounds a bit dangerous.0 -
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