Gynecologist question.

juvenal

Phlann wrote: »

I really think there's a distinction to be made between the guys in After Hours and professionals who not only deal with these problems all day long, but are specifically trained to be sensitive to female patients (and thoroughly examined on it).

+1; I was just chatting about this topic with the OH, and while she said she'd probably feel more comfortable with a female doctor (hers is a lady), she wouldn't make an issue of it if she was suddenly brought in an emergency to a hospital/clinic situation and certainly wouldn't refuse treatment or an exam on the basis of the professional's gender.

Personally I wouldn't give a damn about a doctor's gender or anything of the sort if I felt I was getting a professional service. I understand people's comfort is a personal preference and it's probably not going to change after a discussion, but change the issue to race and see how you feel. Discrimination doesn't suddenly become OK just because you don't feel comfortable.

IMO if you're going to refuse medical attention and expertise on the basis of gender, race, religion etc. you really need to take a long hard look at yourself and think about where your priorities lie.

Deleted User wrote: »

. . .On my mother's life, you could hang a wet duffel coat off it. She was more embarassed about it than I was though. Especially after she came back 10 mins later to find me hobbling out of the jacks

Oh how I LOLed - cracker!

Prof.Badass

Captain Darling wrote: »

Theres nothing i like more in the morning, then the smell of a freshly baked yeast infection.

That episode of futurama where bender makes his own beer finally makes sense :pac:!

AckwelFoley

*adele* wrote: »

Oh christ. Here you are preaching about how women shouldnt mind whether its a male or female doctor but from the crap the men in this thread are coming out with, and what you just said, can you really imagine a woman wanting to go to a male doctor? Because thats the reaction a women wants when she needs help with a medical problem.:rolleyes: Maybe you should grow up

and women dont joke about the male reproductive organs?

I'll see your rollyeyes :rolleyes: and raise you 3 fapps :pac: :pac: :pac:

Dudess

Heh, the pacman guy DOES look like a "fap"!

*adele*

stevoman wrote: »

what if the man was a smooth talking cat like barry white?

Then I'd definately go to him

*adele*

snyper wrote: »

and women dont joke about the male reproductive organs?

I'll see your rollyeyes :rolleyes: and raise you 3 fapps :pac: :pac: :pac:

We dont say "Ooh you men are so sexist not going to a woman doctor" then carry on "Eww manky disgusting diseased penises"

I see your fapps and raise you this happy fellow

AckwelFoley

*adele* wrote: »

We dont say "Ooh you men are so sexist not going to a woman doctor" then carry on "Eww manky disgusting diseased penises"

I see your fapps and raise you this happy fellow

you do know that the most vile comments about the female oraphis was made by dudess... a woman.. well apparently.. i havnt seen a boob pic yet

hunnybunny

Originally Posted by StormWarrior
Can't imagine many women like having a male doctor for down there. He could have become a cardiologist or something instead.

Agreed, I would refuse point blank to have male doctor examine me there. I just hope I can ensure I have a female doctor when I have a baby.

Dudess

Ah it's all just biology. I couldn't give a hoot what gender the person doing the examining was. The last bit of work I got done in that department was by a male actually. I didn't even think about it tbh. He was just doing his job.
I think it's strange though that there aren't more female gynaecologists. I know of female doctors and nurses who do gynae/obs work, but no females actually specialising. I don't know... it would kinda make more sense - for instance empathy-wise. I know lads experience pain too but they'll never know what a menstrual cramp is like.
And I do wonder why men would choose it as a career - the abuse they must get (mostly good natured, but still) must be endless...

snyper wrote: »

you do know that the most vile comments about the female oraphis was made by dudess... a woman.. well apparently.. i havnt seen a boob pic yet

Yep, I think minges are rotten looking-yokes. Not that male genitalia looks nice either...

juvenal

hunnybunny wrote: »

Agreed, I would refuse point blank to have male doctor examine me there. I just hope I can ensure I have a female doctor when I have a baby.

May I ask on what grounds?

I wonder are the individuals who are taking such a hard line on this issue the same ones who cry sexism when women aren't treated exactly the same as men? How would you feel if someone you were dealing with in a professional situation requested that you be replaced by a male, or a black person, or a non-Irish person? I imagine you'd be rather insulted.

Refusing "point-blank" is discrimation - no discussion. If you received medical care from an oriental or black doctor, would you refuse "point-blank" and ask for a caucasian doctor? I find some people's attitude rather immature. While I appreciate comfort is an integral part of any professional service, using an individual's gender, race or anything like that to justify your narrow-mindedness is offside IMO. If the room is too cold, or unhygenic, then sure, complain away - don't discriminate against someone who's doing their job.

I want the best care in a medical situation, if that happens to be from a one-legged Martian with a lazy eye, then so be it.

Kold

hunnybunny wrote: »

Agreed, I would refuse point blank to have male doctor examine me there. I just hope I can ensure I have a female doctor when I have a baby.

God forbid the baby is a boy and gets a good close up of your gash.

Toto Wolfcastle

juvenal wrote: »

May I ask on what grounds?

I wonder are the individuals who are taking such a hard line on this issue the same ones who cry sexism when women aren't treated exactly the same as men?

Refusing "point-blank" is discrimation - no discussion. If you received medical care from an oriental or black doctor, would you refuse "point-blank" and ask for a caucasian doctor? I find some people's attitude rather immature.

Yeah, I really don't understand it but I suppose it's a personal choice.

Not the same as a gynaecological exam, but when I got a breast exam the female GP made me feel uncomfortable and almost guilty for having a lump at my age and the male consultant made me feel comfortable and reassured me.

None of this means I will reject female doctors, but it does show that male doctors cannot be tarred with the one brush.

Kold wrote: »

God forbid the baby is a boy and gets a good close up of your gash.

I Lol'd!

hunnybunny

May I ask on what grounds?

I wonder are the individuals who are taking such a hard line on this issue the same ones who cry sexism when women aren't treated exactly the same as men?

Refusing "point-blank" is discrimation - no discussion. If you received medical care from an oriental or black doctor, would you refuse "point-blank" and ask for a caucasian doctor? I find some people's attitude rather immature.

Its a modesty thing. I just would prefer a woman. I would be embaressed with a man. Black/Phillipino whatever race doesn t matter to me.

I wonder Dublin hospitals deal with the issues of Muslim women and their husbands who would absolutely refuse to let a male doctor examine them.

sondal

janeybabe wrote: »

Yeah, I really don't understand it but I suppose it's a personal choice.

Not the same as a gynaecological exam, but when I got a breast exam the female GP made me feel uncomfortable and almost guilty for having a lump at my age and the male consultant made me feel comfortable and reassured me.

None of this means I will reject female doctors, but it does show that male doctors cannot be tarred with the one brush.



I Lol'd!

I had a bad experience with an foreign male doctor that told me I was too fat to wear blue jeans. It totally crushed my self esteem. I know there are lots of good male doctors in Dublin, as i changed GP from Carlow Town five months ago. However, i just dont trust them after my bad experience which was two years ago. There are a largenumber of south african male doctors working in Ireland ( i read this in the Irish Times). It seems they are very mature and caring GP's.

Call Me Jimmy

*adele* wrote: »

Oh christ. Here you are preaching about how women shouldnt mind whether its a male or female doctor but from the crap the men in this thread are coming out with, and what you just said, can you really imagine a woman wanting to go to a male doctor? Because thats the reaction a women wants when she needs help with a medical problem.:rolleyes: Maybe you should grow up

Most of us are 20 something degenerates. Hardly med-school material.

Phlann

I don't want to be ganging up on Hunnybunny here but the whole childbirth point made me laugh.

You're going to be screaming, sh1tting and urinating in front of a room full of people and modesty is still a concern... people really are weird :pac:

Also I disagree with the empathy point that Dudess made. Men definitely can empathise with women's problems

For example, I was at a music festival years ago and took immodium all weekend so that I wouldn't have to use the manky toilets. The resulting poo was massive and I'm pretty sure I had post-natal depression for a while afterwards.

JohnCleary

Phlann wrote: »

You're going to be screaming, sh1tting and urinating in front of a room full of people and modesty is still a concern... people really are weird :pac:

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I always thought this in my head, what with all the pushing etc... but.... er..... :eek:

Prof.Badass

Phlann wrote: »

For example, I was at a music festival years ago and took immodium all weekend so that I wouldn't have to use the manky toilets. The resulting poo was massive and I'm pretty sure I had post-natal depression for a while afterwards.

:eek:


You should have done heroin instead.... at least then you'd have the added benifit of being high while abusing your body.

Captain Darling

Phlann wrote: »

For example, I was at a music festival years ago and took immodium all weekend so that I wouldn't have to use the manky toilets. The resulting poo was massive and I'm pretty sure I had post-natal depression for a while afterwards.

:eek::eek::eek:

4Xcut

StormWarrior wrote: »

Medical student shouting "wahey", plus I have seen several news stories about male doctors abusing their female gynae patients. There was even a film about it on the true movies channel. It certainly does happen. And what about women who just don't want a male doctor because they don't feel comfortable with it? Do you think the woman is wrong for refusing? In Sweden recently a woman showed up at the gynaecologist, there to discover it was a male doctor. She asked for a female doctor instead. The male doctor complained about her and she was kicked off the clinic's list and not allowed treatment any more for "sexual discrimination" of the doctor. So, because she didn't feel comfortable with some random man poking around with her private bits, she is denied medical treatment. This is what political correctness leads to.

Firstly, It is a disgraceful thing for any doctor of any dicipline to betray the trust of a patient.

However, it doesn't happen regualary. Car crashes do happen, plane crashes do happen, insurance scams do happen. Lots of undesireable things do happen.

If a woman doesn't want a male doctor because she's not comfortable then a female doctor should be the one to treat her. However, to say that you don't want a male doc incase he perves on you is a bit of a gerneralisation.

Phlann

NB above story isn't true

I just like making the post-natal depression joke :pac:

NotMe

Phlann wrote: »

The resulting poo was massive and I'm pretty sure I had post-natal depression for a while afterwards.

What did you name it?

bug

Just to clarify something.

Somebody defined a gynecologist.

Actually the set up in Ireland is different to other countries.

In Germany and the States for example, every woman has a gynecologist. That is someone to go see if all's not functioning i.e. STD's, likewise for routine tests and also pregnancy.

In Ireland, mostly only the comfortable have dedicated gynecologists or it's someone you get referred to if, for e.g., you have two wombs or need specialised care, pre-fertility treatment or get pregnant and want specialised care.

The average woman goes to a doctor, who doesn't just look at vagina's all day.

And women with STD's go to a doctor usually first.

So the Doctor probably see's the worst really.

To answer the Op's question, I suggest you use the Goldenpages, call a few Gyno's, and let us all know what they say.

Terry

NotMe wrote: »

What did you name it?

Bono, I'd imagine.

Dudess

sondal wrote: »

I had a bad experience with an foreign male doctor that told me I was too fat to wear blue jeans. It totally crushed my self esteem. I know there are lots of good male doctors in Dublin, as i changed GP from Carlow Town five months ago. However, i just dont trust them after my bad experience which was two years ago.

You've been put off going to see any male doctor because the doctor who made that comment to you was male?

juvenal

4Xcut wrote: »

Firstly, It is a disgraceful thing for any doctor of any dicipline to betray the trust of a patient.

However, it doesn't happen regualary. Car crashes do happen, plane crashes do happen, insurance scams do happen. Lots of undesireable things do happen.

If a woman doesn't want a male doctor because she's not comfortable then a female doctor should be the one to treat her. However, to say that you don't want a male doc incase he perves on you is a bit of a gerneralisation.

+1, but I think it's rash for some people to 'demand' a female doctor if their admitted into medical care. The health service of any country (not just Ireland's creaking one) has enough challenges without having to worry about the patient's 'modesty' or embarrassment. I would also argue this when religious beliefs are an issue; sure if it suits and doctors are available they can accommodate the patients needs - but the patients medical welfare is far more important. If you go into a hospital or clinic and start demanding to hand-pick the medical team based on what suits you, then you should be shown the door and advised you can get your wallet out and hire a private personal physician.

Would one rather receive medical attention now when they need it or put their embarrassment first and wait until a doctor who has an agreeable gender or ethnicity is available?

sondal wrote:

I had a bad experience with an foreign male doctor that told me I was too fat to wear blue jeans. It totally crushed my self esteem. I know there are lots of good male doctors in Dublin, as i changed GP from Carlow Town five months ago. However, i just dont trust them after my bad experience which was two years ago. There are a largenumber of south african male doctors working in Ireland ( i read this in the Irish Times). It seems they are very mature and caring GP's.

I agree the doctor in question was completely out-of-order in expressing this opinion. It's not his place to comment on this, unless he's advising you due to a medical condition, which he clearly was not. The last time I checked blue jeans didn't cause medical problems :mad:

I'd query your reasoning behind not trusting any male doctor over a stupid comment by one individual. It would appear you didn't have much self-esteem to begin with as two years later and you still haven't dealt with it. Just becaues he was male that means all male doctors are jerks. Furthermore, you don't have to be South African to be mature and caring.

Did you report the incident to his superiors?

hunnybunny

Yeah, I really don't understand it but I suppose it's a personal choice.

Not the same as a gynaecological exam, but when I got a breast exam the female GP made me feel uncomfortable and almost guilty for having a lump at my age and the male consultant made me feel comfortable and reassured me.

None of this means I will reject female doctors, but it does show that male doctors cannot be tarred with the one brush.

Its nothing whatsoever to do with perving!

Its personal, Fitting rooms are divided into male and female, so are toilets and hospital wards. I just feel it should be the same when it comes to treating "down there" issues. They are embaressing and personal and I feel a woman is the same as me so I don t feel an issue with her. There are things you just don t want a man to see unless you want to be very intimate, if ya know what I mean:D

Same for my bikini line I want a woman to do it!

Jesus I had a hard time in France as toilets can be uni sex. Ewwwww! You can be applying your lipstick and watching a man pee infront of you:eek:! Classy!
I think it should be women only thank god I ve only lived in Ireland and Dubai I am not cut out for liberal Europe!

I lived in Dubai for a long time so there WAS NO question of a male doctor examining me. Dubai really suited me in that respect!:)

Originally Posted by Phlann
You're going to be screaming, sh1tting and urinating in front of a room full of people and modesty is still a concern... people really are weird

I certainly don t want a man to see me like that!:eek: Ughh forget natural birth. Cesarian all the way now!!!!!

Off topic but please tell me does everyone lose control of bodily functions whilst giving birth? Why does nobody tell you this? They sure as hell don t deal with this on TV
I ve always wondered how you d go to the toilet. Now I know

Some gob****e I know was saying how childbirth is romantic! F***ing idiot!!!

hunnybunny

Originally Posted by sondal
I had a bad experience with an foreign male doctor that told me I was too fat to wear blue jeans. It totally crushed my self esteem. I know there are lots of good male doctors in Dublin, as i changed GP from Carlow Town five months ago. However, i just dont trust them after my bad experience which was two years ago. There are a largenumber of south african male doctors working in Ireland ( i read this in the Irish Times). It seems they are very mature and caring GP's.

In fairness I had a bitchy female doctor who told me that my top makes me look pregnant. It makes everyone look pregnant It was one of those baggy ones that were in style. I havent worn it since.

Captain Darling

Terry wrote: »

Bono, I'd imagine.

I suspect there may be a fan of South Park in the room......;)

juvenal

hunnybunny wrote: »

Its nothing whatsoever to do with perving!

Its personal, Fitting rooms are divided into male and female, so are toilets and hospital wards. I just feel it should be the same when it comes to treating "down there" issues. They are embaressing and personal and I feel a woman is the same as me so I don t feel an issue with her. There are things you just don t want a man to see unless you want to be very intimate, if ya know what I mean:D

Same for my bikini line I want a woman to do it!

Jesus I had a hard time in France as toilets can be uni sex. Ewwwww! You can be applying your lipstick and watching a man pee infront of you:eek:! Classy!
I think it should be women only thank god I ve only lived in Ireland and Dubai I am not cut out for liberal Europe!

I lived in Dubai for a long time so there WAS NO question of a male doctor examining me. Dubai really suited me in that respect!:)

I certainly don t want a man to see me like that!:eek: Ughh forget natural birth. Cesarian all the way now!!!!!

Off topic but please tell me does everyone lose control of bodily functions whilst giving birth? Why does nobody tell you this? They sure as hell don t deal with this on TV
I ve always wondered how you d go to the toilet. Now I know

Some gob****e I know was saying how childbirth is romantic! F***ing idiot!!!

I find this attitude a bit dated and immature - I don't mean to personally insult you hunnybunny, far from it. You're free to choose as you wish, I just resent this Victorian mindset that men and women are so different that they're unable to deal with things like unisex toilets or fitting rooms.

If someone feels uncomfortable with the professional service provided by a member of the opposite sex, it is your problem, not theirs. I would also say this to a male who felt uncomfortable visiting a female GP. What should be important is whether or not the person in question did their job professionally and efficiently, not whether your delicate sensitivities are offended. If I were a doctor and someone refused treatment due to my gender, I'd have a hard time restraining myself from advising them to consider going elsewhere for treatment.

There's no such thing as perfect equality, as men and women are different beings, but some of the posts in this thread have indicated that some people feel a male doctor would not be 100% professional based on the fact that he is a man. I would argue that the professionalism of a doctor should have nothing to do with their gender, rather their actions, and tarring a particular group of doctors, or any people for that matter, with the same brush is ill-informed and immature.

Regarding childbirth, some people feel it is the most natural thing in the world, and want their partners there to share in the experience and support them. This is a personal matter, and not for everyone. While I'm against caesarean procedures unless for medical reasons, it's up to the parents and doctors to decide. Having one for cosmetic reasons or because you're afraid of the pain or effort of childbirth is just a cop out for me. It's not supposed to be a walk in the park - you're bringing another human being into the world ffs!

There's nowt as queer as folk

rainbow kirby

To me, it wouldn't matter hugely what gender the person was who was treating a problem with my ladyparts - they're trying to treat a medical problem, not get off from it.

pookie82

Firstly, thanks to Phlann for the poo/post-natal remark - I needed a good laugh all day.

Secondly - there's a lot of talk of "diseased" vagina talk on here in realtion to what a gynaecologist would be looking at all day - not all of the vaginas they see are horribly diseased. I don't know where this idea comes from. A lot of the problems they're dealing with are further in than the vagina and many of their patients would consist of pregnant women with nothing wrong with their lady bits at all. So they're not necessarily looking at "flaky, dried up, cauliflower" vaginas anyway. I can't think of anything untoward that they'd see on a vagina unless it's owner had an STD and that'd be a different doc anyway.

On topic, I dount it would make much difference to most guys in this profession when it came to going home and doing the dirty there with their wives/girlfriends. For a start they don't have to shove their faces up to "it" and go elbow deep at home (unless it's a personal choice) so I doubt it makes a difference to them.

On the whole women asking for female docors point - when I was younger I had terrible problems with periods etc and when I went to a male doctor to ask him for help (I was never weird about talking to a male doc about anything as I figure they hear it everyday and couldn't care less) he whipped out a text book, flicked down the page and told me that what was keeping me practically bed ridden and house bound for over a week a month was "pretty text book" and he didn't think it was "that unusual". Needless to say I saw a female doctor shortly afterwards who instantly understood what I was going through and prescribed me with immediate relief.

At the moment though, I have a great male GP who was great in helping me to find the right pill etc and was as understanding and lovely as any woman who may have known for herself what it felt like to be in my position.

So it all depends on the person really and not whether they're male or female. To the woman who said she wouldn't want a male doc to attend to her even if she were having a child - I doubt very much whilst in the throes of childbirth you'll be concerned about your modesty or what he's thinking. It's about the individual and their approach to patients - not their sex.

Phlann

hunnybunny wrote: »

I certainly don t want a man to see me like that!:eek: Ughh forget natural birth. Cesarian all the way now!!!!!

Off topic but please tell me does everyone lose control of bodily functions whilst giving birth? Why does nobody tell you this? They sure as hell don t deal with this on TV
I ve always wondered how you d go to the toilet. Now I know

Some gob****e I know was saying how childbirth is romantic! F***ing idiot!!!

haha

'fraid it's true. And I figure if I keep pointing it out no woman will ever want to have babies again

If there's any other commitment-fearing guys reading this, please make a point of telling every girl you know about the pooing-during-labour thing.

I got your back, ma homies :cool:

stevoman

stevoman wrote: »

why dont you both meet up and kiss?
:P

janeybabe wrote: »

Cool, you coming too?

Four baller?

Captain Ginger

StormWarrior wrote: »

Medical student shouting "wahey", plus I have seen several news stories about male doctors abusing their female gynae patients. There was even a film about it on the true movies channel. It certainly does happen. And what about women who just don't want a male doctor because they don't feel comfortable with it? Do you think the woman is wrong for refusing? In Sweden recently a woman showed up at the gynaecologist, there to discover it was a male doctor. She asked for a female doctor instead. The male doctor complained about her and she was kicked off the clinic's list and not allowed treatment any more for "sexual discrimination" of the doctor. So, because she didn't feel comfortable with some random man poking around with her private bits, she is denied medical treatment. This is what political correctness leads to.

I always find it irronic when women complain about PC seeing as they did so well from it. :rolleyes:

stevoman

Originally Posted by StormWarrior
Medical student shouting "wahey", plus I have seen several news stories about male doctors abusing their female gynae patients. There was even a film about it on the true movies channel.

like, oh, my, god, there was even a movie about it on the true movie channell. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Gone West

I used to be a Guy-in-college-ist

stevelknievel

I'd say the problem would come from him becoming an expert on the good the bad and the ugly. And when he goes home to the missus, he gets very disappointed and a divorce. Like when I started working for Vodafone, I was so depressed with my crappy Sagem so I got rid of it.

For that matter what about guys with foot fetishes in shoe shops...

sondal

juvenal wrote: »

+1, but I think it's rash for some people to 'demand' a female doctor if their admitted into medical care. The health service of any country (not just Ireland's creaking one) has enough challenges without having to worry about the patient's 'modesty' or embarrassment. I would also argue this when religious beliefs are an issue; sure if it suits and doctors are available they can accommodate the patients needs - but the patients medical welfare is far more important. If you go into a hospital or clinic and start demanding to hand-pick the medical team based on what suits you, then you should be shown the door and advised you can get your wallet out and hire a private personal physician.

Would one rather receive medical attention now when they need it or put their embarrassment first and wait until a doctor who has an agreeable gender or ethnicity is available?



I agree the doctor in question was completely out-of-order in expressing this opinion. It's not his place to comment on this, unless he's advising you due to a medical condition, which he clearly was not. The last time I checked blue jeans didn't cause medical problems :mad:

I'd query your reasoning behind not trusting any male doctor over a stupid comment by one individual. It would appear you didn't have much self-esteem to begin with as two years later and you still haven't dealt with it. Just becaues he was male that means all male doctors are jerks. Furthermore, you don't have to be South African to be mature and caring.

Did you report the incident to his superiors?

Juvenal, I reported the incident to the Medical Council. However they responded with a typical dismissive reply. Howver this GP's business partner has very good connections in the HSE and ICGP (irish college of general practitioners). I was portrayed as a crank. I agree my self esteem was poor at the time, but you see, i know understand that this GP is angry with other patients too. While i posted about the incident here, i has helped me realise that there are good Male Doctors too, Maybe not in Carlow but certainly here in Dublin.

Toto Wolfcastle

sondal wrote: »

Juvenal, I reported the incident to the Medical Council. However they responded with a typical dismissive reply. Howver this GP's business partner has very good connections in the HSE and ICGP (irish college of general practitioners). I was portrayed as a crank. I agree my self esteem was poor at the time, but you see, i know understand that this GP is angry with other patients too. While i posted about the incident here, i has helped me realise that there are good Male Doctors too, Maybe not in Carlow but certainly here in Dublin.

Of course there are good male doctors in Carlow. There are good male doctors in every county. Seriously, how can you even generalise like that?

sondal

Dudess wrote: »

You've been put off going to see any male doctor because the doctor who made that comment to you was male?

Dudess, this particular GP in Carlow is one in a million. I'm thirty five years plus, and seen over a dozen GPs over the years both here in Dublin and Carlow. All of them were very good except this man. His locums are good, his female colleage was good. I wanted to see my original Doctor of 10 years who has since left Carlow to work in some big business in the HSE. Iwas told by the reception that i could only get an appointment with the GP who verbally attacked me. I am not here to whistle blow him as it is his bad behaviour not mine.

Phlann

Sondal, in what context did he say that to you?

Did he think he was being funny or something?

sondal

janeybabe wrote: »

Of course there are good male doctors in Carlow. There are good male doctors in every county. Seriously, how can you even generalise like that?

I left Carlow town now. I never want to face this man again. Ok I am generalising . Yes there are good doctors in every town. I rang around town at the time and most Surgeries were closed fron taking on patients. I was told I could change Doctor, but would have to go up to his Surgery and sign as form to change and that I would not be guaranteed to be acceped by one of the other Doctors.

sondal

Phlann wrote: »

Sondal, in what context did he say that to you?

Did he think he was being funny or something?

Your could not be further from the truth Phlann. He just seemed to be very agitated having to see me. Its not as if I was a last minute patient. i had booked the week before on the phone.
He was polite for a few minutes then, lectured me about my subscription, saying that I should take hold of mylife and pull myself together. Iwore make up and my hair was tied up, I was spotlessly clean and wore a pair of jeans and open sandals. Iam size 14, and far from fat. Yes I have an eating disorder but its now under control. The point i am trying to make, it that one person who you should be able to fully trust is your Doctor. When you have any problems whether physical or emotional, who else should you go to see as your first point of call.
This man totally abused his position in a Surgery where I had gone to for years and years. My Mother goes there too. Its just the arrogant tone and dismissive words that shattered me into pieces. I am not angry only sad. I hope it was an isolated incident and that he is kind to other women like me now

entropi

I find human anatomy very interesting, currently one of my subjects so it could only be something i would find to be good

Teutorix

hmmm... could acquired homosexuality be a symptom of gynaecology :rolleyes:

Honey-ec

Phlann wrote: »

haha

'fraid it's true. And I figure if I keep pointing it out no woman will ever want to have babies again

If there's any other commitment-fearing guys reading this, please make a point of telling every girl you know about the pooing-during-labour thing.

I got your back, ma homies :cool:

Sorry, but it doesn't happen to everyone - it can and does occur occasionally, but it's far from a given.

Phlann

Are you really willing to take the chance?

IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU

Honey-ec

Phlann wrote: »

Are you really willing to take the chance

I'll not be reproducing at all, so thankfully it's not something I need to worry about!

tallaght01

I think it's fair enough if a woman wants to see a female doc. It's her choice, and we have to respect people's wishes. Being in hospital can make you feel pretty vulnerable, and it's important to maximise comfort. You can ask to see a female doc. But there might not be one available. You're better off phoning in advance if that's the case. Most clinics will be able to slot you into a clinic with female if you give them some notice.

There comes a point where you just have to get on with it, though. I work in the hospital environment, and I remember a few years ago seeing a woman literally almost die because she refused to let a male examine her. She was pregnant, and her consultant obstetrician (male) thought she had a very serious condition that would threaten mum and baby's life.

So he needed to do an internal examination. She refused. All 3 docs in the room were male. It was a sunday, so they were the only obs/gynae docs in the hospital.

Eventually, she bled out half her blood volume and just had to be put asleep to get emergency surgery there and then. Baby was lucky to make it out alive, as was mum. In these cases, you've really got to just suck it up.

But please bear in mind just how many vaginas a gynae/obs doctor sees. I go to a lot of the deliveries that they do, and I don't think I even register the presence of a vagina in the room anymore, and I'd see maybe 2% of the amount that they do! They really don't even think twice about seeing your "bits".

Within the work environment, and when I socilaise with them, it's bigtime taboo to make jokes about patients. They (quite rightly) are very private about their work.

It won't be as much of an issue in the future, though,a s there's a real problem getting males into the specialty nowadays. They just don't want to do it. Most of the junior gynae/obs doctors are female.

We will, however, always need male gynae/obs doctors. If you have ever worked in a ward full of midwives, you'll know a strong male hand is the only hope of keeping things sane in that environment :P