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New Audi A4 TFSI 211BHP SE Vs BMW 320d M Sport 174 BHP
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15-08-2008 11:34am#1
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You sound like a personal assistant
I'm a car salesman, and we're taught that the first thing to do is to assess the customer's requirements before making any kind of suggestion on model or spec.
As an Audi salesman, any views I'd post here would be seen as suspect as I have an obvious preference for one make over the other.
Id have the A4, simply because I would prefer the TFSI engine to the BMW's diesel engine
That being said, I'd take the Audi because I prefer it as a car. Petrol vs petrol or diesel vs diesel, I'd be happier in the Audi.
Add to that that you're talking about the 2.0TFSI (which I can't wait to drive in the A4/A5) and the choice is simple for me.0 -
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I'm a car salesman, and we're taught that the first thing to do is to assess the customer's requirements before making any kind of suggestion on model or spec..
Funny. Don't know what dealer you work in, but after being in a few VW/Audi dealers recently I could've sworn that the first thing they're taught is how to sneer at the potential customer and make them feel unworthy of your shiny new metal 0 -
cambo_gueno wrote: »Funny. Don't know what dealer you work in, but after being in a few VW/Audi dealers recently I could've sworn that the first thing they're taught is how to sneer at the potential customer and make them feel unworthy of your shiny new metal
...by looking at the one you drove in.
Audichris: probably a silly question but what make of car do you sell?0 -
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cambo_gueno wrote: »Funny. Don't know what dealer you work in, but after being in a few VW/Audi dealers recently I could've sworn that the first thing they're taught is how to sneer at the potential customer and make them feel unworthy of your shiny new metal
Sneering is part of the advanced sales course, they haven't sent me on that one yet.Audichris: probably a silly question but what make of car do you sell?
Not a silly question, it's Audi.
I've been a fan since the A4 quattro killed all challengers in the BTCC. When I went to move into car sales the economy was ticking along quite nicely and so I could have sold anything I wanted. I chose Audi because I'd rather sell something I believe in.
As fine a car as a Nissan/Kia/Merc/Honda is, it doesn't excite me. Audi does, and because of that I love my job! It's a lucky position to be in.0 -
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Sneering is part of the advanced sales course, they haven't sent me on that one yet.
Have you done "Thievery" yet? I think that's in the module with "How To Insult Prospective Customers with a Laughable Trade In", and "Ignoring Punters While Chatting Up the Lithuanian Receptionist"0 -
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Do Séat and VW excite you just as much??
Nope! To me Seat seems to be trying too hard and VW don't have anything that really gets me going except for the GTi (best car in it's class, bar none).
Passat CC's a fine car, but it'll have a hard time competing against the A4 and 3-Series.
Have you done "Thievery" yet? I think that's in the module with "How To Insult Prospective Customers with a Laughable Trade In", and "Ignoring Punters While Chatting Up the Lithuanian Receptionist"
I'm still a sales n00b. If I'm insulting people, it's by accident!0 -
VW don't have anything that really gets me going except for the GTi (best car in it's class, bar none).
Dunno about that...
Anyway back OT, I think there is a large difference between these cars.
FWD Vs RWD is a big one for me
I rather the looks of the BMW but the engine in the Audi
If it came down to it the power would prob sway me to the Audi.
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it is a strange comparison OP has asked about. if resale was a concern you would be fairly nuts to go for petrol A4. i have a soft spot for audi and had a previous gen A4 1.9 TDI
. I now drive a 325i and the A4 doesnt come anywhere near the cracking drive of the BMW. i'm not a massive fan of the looks of the 3 series but its an absolute peach to drive. A4 quattro would be my only tempt back to A4. 0 -
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Why not compare the A4 2.0TDi 168bhp with the 320d 175bhp, power for power (ish), just down to looks and overly expensive add-ons after that???
BTW, The 3series is getting facelift in next month or so (new look to the bonnet change, apparently, might be a change to the internal lay-out but can't remember), so you might want to hold off...
If you're looking at bootsize, knee room (both of these cars are shocking in these depts if you ask me)etc, then have fun with this http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car-comparison.aspx
(trying to change cars myself, worst thing i ever came across was this site, wrecking my head!)
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Why not compare the A4 2.0TDi 168bhp with the 320d 175bhp, power for power (ish), just down to looks and overly expensive add-ons after that???
This seems to make more sense, although I can't wait for the 2.0TFSI.BTW, The 3series is getting facelift in next month or so (new look to the bonnet change, apparently, might be a change to the internal lay-out but can't remember), so you might want to hold off...
The iDrive has been redesigned to be easier to use. That and the better second-hand values for the new model should see you wait...
Or choose the Audi, you know you want toIf you're looking at bootsize, knee room (both of these cars are shocking in these depts if you ask me)etc, then have fun with this http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car-comparison.aspx
Good link, thanks.
Interior space is much improved in the A4 now, the boot is huge too.
You'll get more space in the largest of the rep-mobiles, but at least it's the best in it's class.0 -
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Or choose the Audi, you know you want to
I want to, i really really really want to, but when a Mondeo hatchback has more cargo space for 'stuff' than an Avant, price difference + practicality win out over looks and appeal in our house.:(:(:( ... there's a camping to camping France in our near future, so i have to sensible about this also:(:(:(... don't even look up the size of the Mondeo Estate, the thing is humungous, it ruined my dreams of importing a (sex-on-wheels) 170bhp Avant, sniff!
OP should really let us know what he wants the car for, cruising? lugging? everyday-stuff? is he a golfer? surfer?0 -
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