The England Squad - discuss

Boggles

eagle eye wrote: »

Theres a huge difference between slipping during a game and slipping while taking a penalty or free kick and I never slipped taking a penalty. I didn't take free kicks.

Are you saying you should be captain?

MagicMarker

eagle eye wrote: »

Theres a huge difference between slipping during a game and slipping while taking a penalty or free kick and I never slipped taking a penalty. I didn't take free kicks.

Have you ever slipped during the course of your entire life?

Well then STFU....

eagle eye

MagicMarker wrote: »

Have you ever slipped during the course of your entire life?

Well then STFU....

Two things, 1. Who died and left you in charge
2. I'd love to see you say that to me in person:mad:

MagicMarker

eagle eye wrote: »

Two things, 1. Who died and left you in charge
2. I'd love to see you say that to me in person:mad:

I take it that's a yes then?

So you're not super human after all?

Thanks.

Bounty Hunter

still wondering what if any correlation taking a penalty has to do with your ability to captain a team? your explanation of this point might help your arguement because as it stands I dont think anyone agrees, anyone could slip on a greassy surface and miss a penalty, I think the fact that he was willing to step up and take it in the first place says more about his ability to lead by example than how good a penalty it was.

glenjamin

This is such bull! Just because he misses a penalty hes deemed not good enough to captain England? WTF??? At least he stepped up to take one whether he wanted to or not. I would have my doubts over him if he said 'no, no way am I taking a penalty. Get someone else to take it.' Capello has made the right choice IMO.

Fratton Fred

Being crap at penalties is compulsory if you are an England player. its the law:rolleyes:

Beckham was a great england Captain and he had a very nasty slip whilst taking a penalty.

monkey9

eagle eye wrote: »

I fully agree with you that great players miss penalties. We are not talking about a players greatness here, its about a captain, a leader, and for me he is behind Gerard and Ferdinand. That penalty miss was horrendous, he slipped and thats not good enough, I was gutted for him when it happened but thinking about it afterward it was an unforgivable mistake. If he misses a penalty normally like blasting it over or it being saved thats ok but slipping is not. I like the guy but he has led England before and he has not done a good job imo.

Slipping is an unforgivable mistake???? Are you for f*cking real? Deciding where you're gonna put the ball and changing your mind just as you kick it and then missing can be considered a mistake! Slipping is just bad luck.
And what it's got to do with Terry's capacity to lead the English team, i don't know! The fact that he stepped up when Anelka acted the bo!!ox says more about his leadership than missing a penalty to be honest
And to end, i hate you for making me defend John Terry!!

Wreck

Imo, there is very little to choose between Terry and Ferdinand in terms of captaincy. Personally, I would have gone with Ferdinand because he seems to up his game that little bit extra when made captain. Terry will always provide leadership, even when not captain.

I wonder how much Capello's decision was influenced by Terry missing the penalty, and whether in part giving him the captaincy is an attempt to boost his confidence after missing that penalty.

zAbbo

Wreck wrote: »

Imo, there is very little to choose between Terry and Ferdinand in terms of captaincy. Personally, I would have gone with Ferdinand because he seems to up his game that little bit extra when made captain. Terry will always provide leadership, even when not captain.

I wonder how much Capello's decision was influenced by Terry missing the penalty, and whether in part giving him the captaincy is an attempt to boost his confidence after missing that penalty.

You could argue that Ferdinand doesn't really up his game, he's consistently good, while Terry thrives of the captaincy, and is probably someone who needs the captaincy more - so if you look at it from that POV - making Terry captain increases the performance of the team as a whole.

monkey9

Ultimately though, i think this captain thing is a load of nonsense!! Does it really matter so much?? It seems to me to be an English obsession!!

estebancambias

+1

Its really boring actually. In International football it means relatively nothing especially against Faroe Islands and others. Nothing more than a (huge) personal honour.

herbieflowers

monkey9 wrote: »

Ultimately though, i think this captain thing is a load of nonsense!! Does it really matter so much?? It seems to me to be an English obsession!!

well, they've nothing to harp on about atm really.

estebancambias

Some guy called mcnulty on bbc has some article about the new english captain...lol....

he makes it out that suggesting gerrard should have been captain was really 'out there' and thinking outside the box.

Fratton Fred

monkey9 wrote: »

Ultimately though, i think this captain thing is a load of nonsense!! Does it really matter so much?? It seems to me to be an English obsession!!

8 pages discussing the England team, of which the last three are about the captain.

Maybe it is an Irish obsession as well

monkey9

Fratton Fred wrote: »

8 pages discussing the England team, of which the last three are about the captain.

Maybe it is an Irish obsession as well

Sh!t

herbieflowers

Of course it is, the Euros weren't half as entertaining without our aul' Enemy.

Savman

I'm amazed we got 8 pages without the oirland brigade guilt-tripping us

estebancambias

I was going to but in fairness there is something to discuss.

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Savman wrote: »

I'm amazed we got 8 pages without the oirland brigade guilt-tripping us

I was banned when you started the thread

Anyway.

feckin' english obsessed *rabble rabble rabble* stop watching football on barstools *rabble rabble rabble*

Savman

^^ Ah there he is

I knew we were on borrowed time

stick-dan

It should have been gerrrard.

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stick-dan wrote: »

It should have been gerrrard.

Because he eats Frosties?

He's grrreat.

Fratton Fred

Des wrote: »

Because he eats Frosties?

He's grrreat.

that is, quite possibly, the best way to choose a captain.

mike65

Beckham and Brown down the right, Barry and Lampard in the middle, Gerrard on the left :rolleyes: Defoe up front.

Mike.

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England: James, Brown, A Cole, Ferdinand, Terry (Captain), Beckham, Barry, Lampard, Gerrard, Defoe, Rooney.

MagicMarker

I would just like to say thank the jebus for justin.tv...

Any predictions lads?

mike65

The game is on Santana Ireland (UPC analogue) as well

Mike.

MagicMarker

I'm in Canada:(

Bounty Hunter

Baros hasnt scored in his last 24 games... England really should win

MagicMarker

This game is shoite!

Vokes

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Baros hasnt scored in his last 24 games... England really should win

lol

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MagicMarker wrote: »

This game is shoite!

Its ok imo

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Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Baros hasnt scored in his last 24 games... England really should win

1-0 Baros

MagicMarker

Things seem to be taking a downward turn.

Mr Alan

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Baros hasnt scored in his last 24 games... England really should win

estebancambias

England should have called up Steven Reid.

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estebancambias wrote: »

England should have called up Steven Reid.

Well he is English I suppose

estebancambias

and he's better than gareth barry, well a better footballer anyway.

MagicMarker

Is Joe Cole injured?

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estebancambias wrote: »

and he's better than gareth barry, well a better footballer anyway.

Barry is a good player, not sure if he good enough for Arsenal though.

mike65

Lampard is surely beyond the joke at this stage?

Mike.

estebancambias

That is where Steven Reid would step in.....

I'll stop now.

MagicMarker

mike65 wrote: »

Lampard is surely beyond the joke at this stage?

Mike.

You mean he's playing? Coulda fooled me.

Bounty Hunter

ha my Benayoun esque plan for Baros worked go on Milan!

mike65

MagicMarker I almost forgot he was there myself

In other news Brian Barwick has resigned from the FA.

Mike

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mike65 wrote: »

In other news Brian Barwick has resigned from the FA.

Mike

And Arsenal have signed Silvestre.

mike65

Heskey would be more useful the way England play.

Mike.

MagicMarker

1-1

Wes Brown.

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1-1 Wes Brown, very good header, good corner by Becks.