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Does anyone know when the new swimming pool is going to be opened?
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GingerDave wrote: »Went to the National Aquatic Centre yesterday with the family, this is by far the best swimming facility in Ireland.
Swim only membership for family in the NAC= €700.
Greystones (not such a thing as a swim only family membership so you have to make do with..) Membership = €995.
If you just want to swim, which is a basic request in my opinion, the new Greystones facility for a family of 4 is 30% more expensive than the NAC.
So, it's relatively expensive to swim. Fact.
The fact that a public facility is not offering a swimming only membership is something i also think is a poor decision by WCC. Hopefully they won't get the numbers they were banking on (with the recession and all that) and then they will change thier minds.
The 'FACT' as you put it is then on top of being able to bring your family swimming when you like you and your wife have gym membership for a year for €295 if you wanted to make use of it.
Now price a couples gym membership separately and how does it work out?!
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The 'FACT' as you put it is then on top of being able to bring your family swimming when you like you and your wife have gym membership for a year for €295 if you wanted to make use of it.
Now price a couples gym membership separately and how does it work out?!
Who cares? No one went door to door in 1999 collecting donations to build a gym. The community raised money (shouldn't have had to, but they did) over a ten year period for a swimming pool.
But this likely won't be resolved to the satisfaction of those who expect a swim-only membership. The management's primary incentive is not customer satisfaction, but simply breaking even -- and they'll charge what they need to in order to meet that goal.0 -
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GingerDave wrote: »I'm hoping that a low membership count will make them see sense.
Do you really think they wont fill membership for a great new facility like that?
Come on!by the way, Dublin City Council is about to open a new leisure and community centre in Ballyfermot at a cost of €25m - here are the prices they're charging:
Child Swim €3.00
Adult Swim €6.00
Family Swim €12.00
O.A.P. Swim Free
Gym & Pool 12 Month €360.00
Pool 12 Month €340.00
Family 12 Month (2 Adults & 2 Children) €850.00
Also I think if you checked into it the city council probably ( not saying they did ) got alot more funding than the county council for their centre. I could be wrong but the city has a bigger population.MyPerfectCousin wrote: »Who cares? No one went door to door in 1999 collecting donations to build a gym. The community raised money (shouldn't have had to, but they did) over a ten year period for a swimming pool.
But this likely won't be resolved to the satisfaction of those who expect a swim-only membership. The management's primary incentive is not customer satisfaction, but simply breaking even -- and they'll charge what they need to in order to meet that goal.
Did you go door to door personally?
And yes the community raised money but from what ive read that is only a tiny tiny percentage of what the centre cost. The county council is now left paying back a loan like any one of us would after borrowing money, which isnt easily done by any means. I think it is totally unfair to say their "primary incentive is not customer satisfaction".
Bottom line i think people should the grateful for what the community has got. Now that you've got it after "ten years" you should all stop complaining and support it. But if you all want to avoid the place and spend the extra on petrol to drive further instead of supporting your local community centre then go right ahead. There are plenty of people including myself who will make great use of it. 0 -
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Bottom line i think people should the grateful for what the community has got. Now that you've got it after "ten years" you should all stop complaining and support it. But if you all want to avoid the place and spend the extra on petrol to drive further instead of supporting your local community centre then go right ahead. There are plenty of people including myself who will make great use of it.
If people just sat back and were grateful for what the community already has we wouldn't have a facility in the first place:rolleyes:
I don't doubt you will make great use of it yourself and fair play to you so you should, however
From reading between the lines on most of these posts and also discussions I've had with various neighbours it seems that people with children are not happy about the lack of pool only memberships.0 -
No, I was not a campaigner, but I was gobsmacked when they came to my door and asked for a donation of 100-200 punts for something that every community should already have, funded by their own taxes. I thought it ludicrous that the people were told by the council that this was the only way they'd get a pool. I felt terrible for the swimming clubs that they had to do this. Then, I felt bad for myself when I had to drive to Kilternan, Wicklow or Blackrock to get my daughter swimming lessons. And at no point did gyms figure into the equation, and especially not since a private one already popped up adjacent to a council facility.
Did you go door to door personally?And yes the community raised money but from what ive read that is only a tiny tiny percentage of what the centre cost.
Whatever the percentage of the total cost, EUR 500,000 is in no way a tiny, tiny amount of funds raised by members of a community of this size.
The county council is now left paying back a loan like any one of us would after borrowing money, which isnt easily done by any means.
Really? I wonder why that wasn't mentioned in this article, which breaks down the funding sources. I'm not doubting you, just wondering what the details of that are. That could help explain why they're charging so much, and not allowing pool-only memberships.I think it is totally unfair to say their "primary incentive is not customer satisfaction".
That sounds harsh, but if pressed, I have no doubt the manager would tell you his/her job performance will be assessed on financial matters first and foremost. This is BECAUSE the council doesn't have a budget for things like running pools, which is WHY they're charging people for the gym when they only wanted a pool in the first place. I'm sure the council would love that it were different, as would I.Bottom line i think people should the grateful for what the community has got. Now that you've got it after "ten years" you should all stop complaining and support it. But if you all want to avoid the place and spend the extra on petrol to drive further instead of supporting your local community centre then go right ahead. There are plenty of people including myself who will make great use of it.
Why was "ten years" in quotes? And I don't think anyone is boycotting it, just pointing out that it costs more than other pools, and it's partly because they're bundling memberships with unwanted gym membership.0 -
If people just sat back and were grateful for what the community already has we wouldn't have a facility in the first place:rolleyes:
I don't doubt you will make great use of it yourself and fair play to you so you should, however
From reading between the lines on most of these posts and also discussions I've had with various neighbours it seems that people with children are not happy about the lack of pool only memberships.
I can understand they are not happy but if they were available you'd all be moaning about something else.:rolleyes::PMyPerfectCousin wrote: »No, I was not a campaigner, but I was gobsmacked when they came to my door and asked for a donation of 100-200 punts for something that every community should already have, funded by their own taxes. I thought it ludicrous that the people were told by the council that this was the only way they'd get a pool. I felt terrible for the swimming clubs that they had to do this. Then, I felt bad for myself when I had to drive to Kilternan, Wicklow or Blackrock to get my daughter swimming lessons. And at no point did gyms figure into the equation, and especially not since a private one already popped up adjacent to a council facility.
Whatever the percentage of the total cost, EUR 500,000 is in no way a tiny, tiny amount of funds raised by members of a community of this size.
Really? I wonder why that wasn't mentioned in this article, which breaks down the funding sources. I'm not doubting you, just wondering what the details of that are. That could help explain why they're charging so much, and not allowing pool-only memberships.
Why was "ten years" in quotes? And I don't think anyone is boycotting it, just pointing out that it costs more than other pools, and it's partly because they're bundling memberships with unwanted gym membership.[/
I personally don't think it is ludicrous to ask for the community support. Yes coming to your house and asking for 100euro for a donation is a bit much. People think their community should have everything they demand because they pay taxes, but those taxes cover a VERY wide range of things across the whole country not just in their individual little towns. The council are limited to what they are allowed spend.
Ok it doesnt say anything about the councilss loan but do you believe everything you read in the paper? The council is rarely praised or wrttin in true light in the papers. I didnt mean a tiny amount my apologises but it also doesnt state in the article you attached that the two clubs who were fundraising were given a large sum of money from the developer towards their two fundraising groups. So its not all just raised community money like they claim.
The boycotting remark was not directed and you personally people on here had said they would travel somewhere else due to the costs.
I'm not gettin any further into this issue, it seems to just be turning into a blame the council or blame who we can thread and ive given my opinion. So I hope you do get your pool-only membership with some persistance which is possible im sure if you get enough people appealing into the management commitee.
I hope you all at least take a visit and give it a go remembering not to judge it on the first few weeks as its going to be crazy busy just because its new and of course there may be a few bumps along the way. 0 -
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