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Breast feeding - does it bother you?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Eh nope. Study after study after study has shown breast milk is the best start for a child. Lower incidence of allergies, obesity in later life, stronger immune systems, lower risk of cot death, higher intelligence http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11988057?dopt=AbstractPlus and even better socialisation apparently http://adc.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/92/4/317 . Just because something is "primitive" does not make the modern alternatives better.

    Are you suggesting that the vast majority of the population are not as healthy because they were not breast fed:confused: Chances are you were not breast fed. Breast feeding is not needed today - there are so many feeding products for babies that they cannot find room on the shelves to put them all. Unless you can prove it is needed then there are no arguments to be had. I think you missed the point of my post actually.


    I could not care less what women do in private. Thats their own business. In public they have to show discretion and common sense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Are you suggesting that the vast majority of the population are not as healthy because they were not breast fed:confused:

    That's what the study would suggest. Why the confusion?
    Chances are you were not breast fed. Breast feeding is not needed today

    Maybe he wasn't breastfed. So what? Plenty of people weren't and turned out ok of course. The study doesn't say it's essential for development but that it is better than not breastfeeding.
    I think you missed the point of my post actually.

    It's trolling right. That's the point isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    taconnol wrote: »
    I wish people could be banned for being obnoxious. Oh and before you ask, yes I am referring to you. Get off your high horse.

    And whether I'm female or not has nothing to do with it so if you could try and be a bit more discreet with the sexism in future, that would be just great.
    As I said Earthhorse, winkie smilies...
    javaboy wrote: »
    I didn't try to put your opinion down though while you did.

    Re the part you bolded, I did already say it's a minority of those who breastfeed in public. I also noticed a similar thing shortly after the introduction of the smoking ban when people smoking herbal cigarettes would delight in putting down anyone who told them to put it out. They were hoping for the confrontation.



    Oh sorry. I must have misunderstood this post of yours:



    Please use [HYPOTHETICAL][/HYPOTHETICAL] tags in future.



    Or maybe you just didn't have a job that involved working around a restaurant area where a lot of women happened to breastfeed like I did.
    Oh noes, Boards' comedy duo is falling out! :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    taconnol wrote: »
    And whether I'm female or not has nothing to do with it so if you could try and be a bit more discreet with the sexism in future, that would be just great.

    Sexism? Oh I get you we should be talking about men breast feeding in public then to make sure our thread isn't gender specific. Fair enough. . . Ok . . Well . . . Where to start.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Are you suggesting that the vast majority of the population are not as healthy because they were not breast fed:confused: Chances are you were not breast fed. Breast feeding is not needed today - there are so many feeding products for babies that they cannot find room on the shelves to put them all. Unless you can prove it is needed then there are no arguments to be had. I think you missed the point of my post actually.

    According to your logic, we shouldn't have sex any more either. Sure artificial insemination is more expensive but sex is just sooo primitive.

    Edit: Ugh Dinter, I was talking about earthhorse's need to point out the fact that I'm female. And earthhorse if you were joking..um sorry! The joys of digital communication..in AH.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh noes, Boards' comedy duo is falling out! :(

    Or maybe it's like that annoyingly long thread in Feedback where two of the mods had a fake fight that they were all chuckling about on the mods forum.

    I remember one of the admins getting pretty pissed off after reading 10 pages to find out it was a hoax.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    taconnol wrote: »
    I wish people could be banned for being obnoxious. Oh and before you ask, yes I am referring to you. Get off your high horse.

    And whether I'm female or not has nothing to do with it so if you could try and be a bit more discreet with the sexism in future, that would be just great.

    Yeah that Eart'hoss is a real sexist pig. He was even saying earlier that women just breastfeed in public to get a reaction!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    taconnol wrote: »
    According to your logic, we shouldn't have sex any more either. Sure artificial insemination is more expensive but sex is just sooo primitive.

    Nah the thing about sex is that even bystanders can get a kick out of that when they watch it online so everybody's happy not just the people actually involved!


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    hunnybunny wrote: »
    Does it make people feel uncomfortable?
    Only when she discovers i've displaced the baby. :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    taconnol wrote: »
    According to your logic, we shouldn't have sex any more either. Sure artificial insemination is more expensive but sex is just sooo primitive.


    Erm I think many of you are missing the point. Breast feeding is not needed today. End of story. There is no debate to be had about it and comparing it to sex is rediculous. Sex generally does not take place in public....and people tend not to go out of their way to do it in public either. Is sex ok on a bus? - by your logic it must be cause its natural...in the same way breast feeding is.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    taconnol wrote: »
    I wish people could be banned for being obnoxious. Oh and before you ask, yes I am referring to you. Get off your high horse.

    :eek:
    taconnol wrote: »
    And whether I'm female or not has nothing to do with it so if you could try and be a bit more discreet with the sexism in future, that would be just great.

    I think you might have missed the point of my post which was to parody the people suggesting women be more discreet about breastfeeding.
    javaboy wrote: »
    I didn't try to put your opinion down though while you did.

    If I think an opinion's ridiculous I reserve the right to ridicule it.
    javaboy wrote: »
    I also noticed a similar thing shortly after the introduction of the smoking ban when people smoking herbal cigarettes would delight in putting down anyone who told them to put it out. They were hoping for the confrontation.

    This is different because you actually have evidence of people changing their behaviour (switching to herbal cigarettes) and then being smug when confronted whereas you have no evidence any of these women are deliberately seeking out situations in which they'll have to breastfeed in public.
    javaboy wrote: »
    Please use [HYPOTHETICAL][/HYPOTHETICAL] tags in future.

    [STUBBORN]No.[/STUBBORN]
    javaboy wrote: »
    Or maybe you just didn't have a job that involved working around a restaurant area where a lot of women happened to breastfeed like I did.

    Like I say, a sheltered life for me.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    *sigh* yeah, sorry earthhorse. Totally took you up the wrong way.:o

    Need to turn my sarcasm radar back on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    darkAGES2 wrote: »
    Erm I think many of you are missing the point. Breast feeding is not needed today. End of story. There is no debate to be had about it and comparing it to sex is rediculous. Sex generally does not take place in public....and people tend not to go out of their way to do it in public either. Is sex ok on a bus?

    Fixed your username for you there...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Can someone who has a problem with breastfeeding in public please explain why? I really don't understand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Dudess wrote: »
    As I said Earthhorse, winkie smilies...

    I refuse to...I just...can't...must...resist...lowest common denominator....
    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh noes, Boards' comedy duo is falling out! :(

    He's dead weight.
    taconnol wrote: »
    Edit: Ugh Dinter, I was talking about earthhorse's need to point out the fact that I'm female. And earthhorse if you were joking..um sorry! The joys of digital communication..in AH.
    taconnol wrote: »
    *sigh* yeah, sorry earthhorse. Totally took you up the wrong way.:o

    It's all good in the hood.

    :cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    javaboy wrote: »



    It's trolling right. That's the point isn't it?

    Illiteracy is not uncommon in after hours. Since you can't interprate it properly I will explain it to you. My point is that breast feeding is not nessacary - now show me the facts that say it is essential for babies. It is not essential - that is my point. Dispute all you like but show me facts that a baby needs to be breast fed. I dont think breast feeding is required today to sustain human life - do you?

    Once again im not against women who breast feed - I could not care less what they do as long as they dont do it in very public places. Surely that is just common decency which should not have to be explained.

    The other point I made earlier was - why dont these women make sure their babies are fed properly before leaving the house, make bottles and bring them with them and time their trip with their baby appropriately? Too much too ask? Not for most women who actually do that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    javaboy wrote: »
    It's social convention. The same as not having sexual intercourse with 15 year olds even though they are often physiologically speaking, sexually mature. Would you honestly have no issue with a man sitting across from your kids on a train with his genitals on full display?

    Well because nudity is illegal and most people in this country have a really unhealthy attitude towards the human body, i'd feel slightly threatened because i'd think he was some sort of perv exposing himself to kids for sexual purposes.

    However if nakedness was legal then real nudists would walk around naked and after a while people would stop caring.The pervs would give up as they'd no longer get a reaction.

    If I knew he meant no harm (i.e he's just a nudist) then i honestly wouldn't care that my kids can see what an adult male looks like with no clothes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    If I think an opinion's ridiculous I reserve the right to ridicule it.

    And I respect that right. I'm equally entitled to defend my so called ridiculous opinion.

    I have no reason to make it up or to read things in people's eyes and mannerisms that aren't there. As I've said already, I've no problem with breastfeeding in public.
    This is different because you actually have evidence of people changing their behaviour (switching to herbal cigarettes)

    Where did I say they switched to herbal cigarettes? Now who is overestimating "they're ability to know what's going on in other people's heads"? ;)
    [STUBBORN]No.[/STUBBORN]

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Illiteracy is not uncommon in after hours. Since you can't interperate it properly I will explain it to you. My point is that breast feeding is not nessacary - now show me the facts that say it is essential for babies. It is not essential - that is my point. Dispute all you like but show me facts that a baby needs to be breast fed. I dont think breast feeding is required today sustain human life - do you?

    Once again im not against women who breast feed - I could not care less what they do as long as they dont do it in very public places. Surely that is just common decency which should not have to be explained.

    The other point I made earlier was - why dont these women make sure their babies are fed properly before leaving the house, make bottles and bring them with them and time their trip with their baby appropriately? Too much too ask? Not for most women who actually do that.

    Illiteracy lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    I don't think there is a problem with breast feeding in public as it is one of the most natural things a mother could do but I do think it should be discreet.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    Fixed your username for you there...



    So sex is ok on a bus:confused: You would have no problem sitting on a bus beside two people having sex because its natural?



    Ah you would probrably be turned on:rolleyes: That makes it alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    taconnol wrote: »
    *sigh* yeah, sorry earthhorse. Totally took you up the wrong way.:o

    Need to turn my sarcasm radar back on!
    I think the problem here is Earthhorse not conveying the irony properly. This is the umpteenth time he has been taken seriously of late. Therefore I have no option but to believe he's not being ironic but being serious. Cheap stunt Earthhorse, cheap stunt :mad:
    Wreck wrote: »
    Can someone who has a problem with breastfeeding in public please explain why? I really don't understand.
    Don't you get it? It's ICKY!! :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Illiteracy is not uncommon in after hours. Since you can't interperate it properly I will explain it to you. My point is that breast feeding is not nessacary - now show me the facts that say it is essential for babies. It is not essential - that is my point. Dispute all you like but show me facts that a baby needs to be breast fed. I dont think breast feeding is required today sustain human life - do you?

    I assume any errors in the above post were ironic in the context of the allegations about my illiteracy?

    Breast feeding is not necessary or essential. I don't think even the most hardened feminazi will say it is. But neither is a well balanced diet or exercise. They are however beneficial like breastfeeding.
    vinylmesh wrote: »
    Well because nudity is illegal and most people in this country have a really unhealthy attitude towards the human body, i'd feel slightly threatened because i'd think he was some sort of perv exposing himself to kids for sexual purposes.

    So you would assume he was naked because he was some sort of perv. Now who has an unhealthy attitude towards the human body? ;):D
    If I knew he meant no harm (i.e he's just a nudist) then i honestly wouldn't care that my kids can see what an adult male looks like with no clothes.

    Fair enough. Fair play to you. It is just a social convention after all.

    Although I'd say there are a lot of people who would say the same thing but might change their minds in the actual event of it happening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Scoobydoobydoo


    It doesn't offend me or bother me to see mothers breastfeeding in public. People who object offend me more so! What's best for the baby is what's important, and if a mother is trying to give her baby the best start in life she can, she's to be applauded, not to be made to feel ashamed.
    Whenever I've seen this, I haven't seen the actual boob, and I certainly don't gaze long enough so that I might! In most cases, women do it quietly and descreetly - what's the problem?
    Breasts are not genitals, and should not be compared to them, they are for feeding babies, shock horror!
    I did breast feed, but not in public. I didn't venture out much during this time, but when I had to, I was lucky enough that my baby would accept expressed milk in a bottle. It seems there are a lot of babies who won't take a bottle, so I think that many women would be left with no choice than to feed in public.
    It is not an option to feed a baby in a toilet, anyone who thinks this is acceptable should try having a meal in one before suggesting such a thing! It would be a ridiculous, and highly irresponsible thing to do, not to mention, bizzare!
    I think it's a very positive thing, to be encouraged, to make women feel uncomfortable about it is a very backward step.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Surely that is just common decency which should not have to be explained.

    There's nothing indecent about breastfeeding. Even in public.
    darkman2 wrote: »
    The other point I made earlier was - why dont these women make sure their babies are fed properly before leaving the house, make bottles and bring them with them and time their trip with their baby appropriately? Too much too ask? Not for most women who actually do that.

    They probably do for the most part but there are always times where they get caught out.
    javaboy wrote: »
    And I respect that right. I'm equally entitled to defend my so called ridiculous opinion.

    And I respect your right to do that, whilst also maintaing my right to defend my ridicule of the so called ridiculous opinion between the hours of 8 to 10 on schoolnights.
    javaboy wrote: »
    Where did I say they switched to herbal cigarettes? Now who is overestimating "they're ability to know what's going on in other people's heads"? ;)

    Oh, I'm just overestimating my ability to interpret your posts. If they didn't switch to herbals then they haven't sought out the confrontation, it has merely come their way as a result of a legislative change and they probably shouldn't be smug about it but I can see why they would be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I think taking a dump is the most natural thing in the world, but I wouldn't do it in the middle of a restaurant

    You can control where and when you take a dump. Babies need to be fed on demand.

    Also a flash of tit across the room is a bit more hygienic (and low key) than somebody leaving a log on the floor of a restaurant. :)

    People need to grow up. Breasts have a functional purpose as well as fun-bags.


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭hunnybunny


    I think taking a dump is the most natural thing in the world, but I wouldn't do it in the middle of a restaurant.

    Taking a dump is disposing of bodily waste, breast feeding is nourishing a child. Eh not on a par with each other when it comes to being appropriate. How is breast feeding a problem in a resteraunt? as long as you don t see too much. Would you rather a roaring child. I know I can t stand that, and would rather see a child happy and fed
    Some women actually climax during breastfeeding. Feckin paedos.
    I am amazed nobody has hopped on you for saying this kind of ignorant rubbish! So this is how women have gotten their kicks since the beginning of time:rolleyes: Grow up!

    I suppose its sick that a Cat nurses her kittens :rolleyes:

    Alos, as has been pointed out, if you know you're going to be away from the privacy of your home, whats wrong with bottling it at home and feeding the bábóg from a bottle?
    Well having a baby is a busy job. Having the time to squirt your milk into a bottle isn t always an option.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    javaboy wrote: »
    . But neither is a well balanced diet or exercise. They are however beneficial like breastfeeding.



    Finally we agree.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Dudess wrote: »
    I think the problem here is Earthhorse not conveying the irony properly. This is the umpteenth time he has been taken seriously of late. Therefore I have no option but to believe he's not being ironic but being serious. Cheap stunt Earthhorse, cheap stunt :mad:

    Am I really so out of touch?

    No. It's the children who are wrong.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    It's basic equal rights. No iffs no butts.

    Either you ban toplessness in males or you allow it in females. You cannot have one or the other unless you dissagree with equal rights in which case you deserve to die.

    google "top freedom".:eek:


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