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DIABETICS!!: whats your HBA1c???

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    upthedub wrote: »
    Ok thanks.
    Any chance you can read my last post here and help me on that one??

    I take it you're talking about the person who was refused a post in Irish Rail?
    I'm having a look at the LRC archive and in a few other possible places, but haven't found it thus far.

    If you look through the Oireachtais records- you can see a number of cases of questions being asked about-

    1. Refusal to renew a commercial HGV licence without an endorsement for someone diagnosed as diabetic.
    2. Several cases of insurance companies refusing to quote for diabetics (ditto quite a few of the chronic illnesses tbh)

    In short- yes, there does appear to be a predjudice against diabetics and other chronic illness sufferers- by interviewers, employers and almost everyone else- who is not afflicted by a chronic illness.

    I'm going to see if I can find the Irish Rail case in particular for you.

    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Back on fasting, the reason you don't need to fast is that it will tell you nothing about your blood glucose levels over the last 4 months or so which is what the HBA1c test looks at (your red blood cells store glucose), a fasting test would only be of use when looking at something which requires a baseline that is not influenced by a recent meal such as cholesterol.

    edit Oops I 'm late to the party. I was so busy reading about fasting and stuff I didn't refresh this page!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭upthedub


    11.3 :eek:

    Im wondering what do i do here...

    breakfast--insulin

    snack--no insulin--

    lunch--insulin--

    snack--no insulin

    dinner--insulin--

    snack--no insulin

    bedtime--night time insulin...

    Is this the correct way??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    upthedub wrote: »
    11.3 :eek:

    Im wondering what do i do here...

    breakfast--insulin

    snack--no insulin--

    lunch--insulin--

    snack--no insulin

    dinner--insulin--

    snack--no insulin

    bedtime--night time insulin...

    Is this the correct way??

    you should check with your specialist, but I'd never eat carbs without taking insulin.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    tbh wrote: »
    you should check with your specialist, but I'd never eat carbs without taking insulin.

    Echo this.
    11.3 is something you need to be talking to your specialist about.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    upthedub wrote: »
    11.3 :eek:

    Im wondering what do i do here...

    breakfast--insulin

    snack--no insulin--

    lunch--insulin--

    snack--no insulin

    dinner--insulin--

    snack--no insulin

    bedtime--night time insulin...

    Is this the correct way??

    I'm 11% too. :(

    Go see your specialist. They're the only people that can help with this type of thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 no1 madpaddy


    Last time i was 7.1 when tested think thats ok for a 37 year old male with 10 years of insulin taking under me belt!!PS about the alcohol:D most largers drive me blood mad but( bud light )and (corona) dont seem to rise the blood sugers. has any one got any more info on this????:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Yep drink dry (real proper dry) cider.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 no1 madpaddy


    Is that bulmers?? would of figured it be full of suger??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    Was 11% in Jan of this year.

    Had climbed to 11.6% by end of March/start of April.


    Now down to 10.5%. And if I'm honest, I'm actually disappointed with that.

    I just expected better. I'll obviously still keep trying but it's pretty annoying.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Thats pretty poor to be honest, you need to look at your food/drink intake (type and when) and your insulin regime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    mike65 wrote: »
    Thats pretty poor to be honest

    I know. Don't worry, I'm suitably ashamed.

    And I'm not looking for pity. Just an interaction with people who actually understand the numbers.
    mike65 wrote: »
    you need to look at your food/drink intake (type and when) and your insulin regime.

    I recently switched to a new insulin. The last one (the one that gave me the 11 and the 11.6 was the old one) and it stopped working properly a while back. I kept trying to compensate with my NovoRapid but I couldn't do it without guaranteeing pretty bad hypos.

    And obviously, I got careless and stupid as well.

    I've been on the new one for the past six weeks. I've noticed an increase the readings since starting college again so I'll just put more effort in.

    I presume you mean alcohol when you mention drink. I've adopted the simplest solution I can for that: I don't drink. The diabetes isn't the reason for that though. It just gets to benefit from it. If you mean sugary drinks like Coke etc. I don't drink them either.

    Food is something I'm working on. I've only recently started the carbohydrate counting thing (at the same time I started the Lantus).

    It'll sound very stupid and ridiculous but I genuinely didn't know about it until recently.


    I am really trying now. I'm actually rather worried about how high it is. I think I can lower it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    And I'm not looking for pity. Just an interaction with people who actually understand the numbers.

    Pity isn't what I was supposed to say. I'd edit it to say what I meant, but I can't actually think of the damn word.

    Best I can descibe it is that I'm not posting for the sake of posting it or that I feel the need to tell everyone. More of a "this is the situation, I'll fix it".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Understood :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 499 ✭✭graflynn


    upthedub wrote: »
    11.3 :eek:

    Im wondering what do i do here...

    breakfast--insulin

    snack--no insulin--

    lunch--insulin--

    snack--no insulin

    dinner--insulin--

    snack--no insulin

    bedtime--night time insulin...

    Is this the correct way??


    Try and gather more information on your day to day BG readings. Test before your Breakfast, lunch & dinner. Then test 2 hours afters you've eaten those meals. This will give your specialist a clue as to where the insulin is letting you down.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    mike65 wrote: »
    Understood :)

    jez mike , how are you doing these days , liverpool fan , astronomy , and now diabetic , all i can say is ............. ME TOO :D Dont tell me you play the guitar and your a babe magnet lol :D

    Talk to ya soon !
    Stargate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Play keyboard after a fashion. Not a babe magnet too old for that sort of thing now. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 708 ✭✭✭dave66


    Type 2 Diabetic here.

    On Glucophage only, diagnosed Nov'07 with A1c of 11.6%. Most recent A1c was 6%.

    My FBG at diagnosis was 21, FBG today 5.2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 padir


    12 years diabetic

    and its hard ...

    current hb1AC is 8.2 but best was 6.9 a long time ago ...

    my biggest problem is once in a routine i tend not to test and they drift back up ...

    would love to be under seven again but i cant get into exercise required for that ... i blame internet (;))

    rarly drink any more but that more of an economic thing as opposed to diabetes but always if a designated driver (diabetic driver as friends say) is needed i shout !!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Got mine at 7.9 today which was a fair improvement from my last which was at 8.something big.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭colrow


    Mine was 6.2 in november but I've been out in saudi for 3 months, i'm home next week so I'm expecting it to have gone up, I'll let you know.

    And the absoluley first thing i do when i get back is gorge myself on bacon and eggs lol


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    This was the first one they bothered doing on me since I got back from my months galavanting off around the world. They said there was no point in putting what would most likely be a bad number down on my chart then, so I was happy enough with that :)

    Several of the people I saw at the hospital yesterday did accuse] me of loosing weight since last time, but I've never been much more than just skin and bone anyway. I'll just blame that look on me being far fitter now with the running 40-50miles a week at the moment. Good excuse to pig out on more food though. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 694 ✭✭✭douglashyde


    quick question for all the diabetics out there.

    Im a type one diabetic for 10 years. age -20.

    During the week I might have 2 slice of brown. toast and 9 units of insulin.

    On the weekend - I might have 2 slice of brown toast and an egg and rasher. and 9 units of insulin.

    There is no carbs in eggs or rashers yet my count will be off by + 5-6 .

    Anyone explain this?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    quick question for all the diabetics out there.

    Im a type one diabetic for 10 years. age -20.

    During the week I might have 2 slice of brown. toast and 9 units of insulin.

    On the weekend - I might have 2 slice of brown toast and an egg and rasher. and 9 units of insulin.

    There is no carbs in eggs or rashers yet my count will be off by + 5-6 .

    Anyone explain this?

    The egg and bacon changes the carbohydrate profile of the toast- i.e it changes how the carbohydrate is absorbed in the body. Any good book which explains the glycaemic index of foods will have a good explanation of how carbohydrate profiles of food can be altered substantially by other foods they're served with, presentation and cooking methods etc.

    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    Got a terrible HbA1C recently (13.3%).

    Have switched doctor and onto a new insulin regieme. Control has really tightened up now. Still getting bad readings every now again (I got 21 mmol/L over the weekend but got a 5.0 mmol/L this morning (an hour and a half after breakfast).


  • Registered Users Posts: 499 ✭✭graflynn


    quick question for all the diabetics out there.

    Im a type one diabetic for 10 years. age -20.

    During the week I might have 2 slice of brown. toast and 9 units of insulin.

    On the weekend - I might have 2 slice of brown toast and an egg and rasher. and 9 units of insulin.

    There is no carbs in eggs or rashers yet my count will be off by + 5-6 .

    Anyone explain this?

    I second what smccarrick posted and also, our level of phsical activity changes (especially if you have a Mon - Fri job) on the weekends and reduces how sensitive we are to the insulin. This means the more active we are the less insulin we require for the same amount of food.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭colrow


    colrow wrote: »
    Mine was 6.2 in november but I've been out in saudi for 3 months, i'm home next week so I'm expecting it to have gone up, I'll let you know.

    And the absoluley first thing i do when i get back is gorge myself on bacon and eggs lol

    Well, after 3 months of no pork ;) my HbA1c has gone up to 6.6, so thats not too bad, I thought it would have gone up a lot more, as I was eating more bad carbs, maybe slogging around on site in the sun helped keep it down.

    I have a problem with high bp as well, and I am taking amlodipine, irbesartan, bendroflumethiazide and atenolol, the docs changed the atenolol to nebilet, so I shouldn't feel so lethargic, I hope so.

    The place where I'm staying has a pool where i could have a swim every night, but I'm so shattered at the end of each day I can't be arsed,. but I'm going to give it a try when I go back for my next trip.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    quick question for all the diabetics out there.

    Im a type one diabetic for 10 years. age -20.

    During the week I might have 2 slice of brown. toast and 9 units of insulin.

    On the weekend - I might have 2 slice of brown toast and an egg and rasher. and 9 units of insulin.

    There is no carbs in eggs or rashers yet my count will be off by + 5-6 .

    Anyone explain this?

    I take it you mean that your blood sugar is higher by 5 or 6 units when you measure?

    From what I know of the Glycaemic index, if you for example eat a ham sandwich instead of 2 slices of toast, you'll end up with a lower glycaemic index for the bread. In the same sense, a "meat and two veg" type dinner will have a lower GI than just eating some scoops of mashed potato.

    So I honestly can't explain that. My experience of dieticians btw is that they can't say anything beyond one food is better for diabetics over another. If you have a particular issue that you can't remedy, I find them very hit and miss.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    i have a diabetic 10 year old. her hba1c was 8 last time and the time before was 12.4 a week later she had a tummybug and fell into a coma. (oh the joys) i was in the uk because my dad died and came home to find her in hospital.

    she can go from needing 9 units basic 1 week to needing 4 units basic the next.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭BlackEdelweiss


    I was at 7.9 last time, gone up to 8.1 yesterday. I was on Ammaryl but they have put me back on Diamicron now because of the rise. They took me off Diamicron last time because it gives me so many hypos, 4 in one day last time I was on them, so here we go again.


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