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Is the word "pornography" offensive?

  • 22-08-2008 11:49pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭


    To cut a long story short:

    The IEDR think the word pornography is offensive. As a result, I cannot register this domain, even though I own the business name "pornography".

    In effect, the IEDR are saying the Companies Registration Office, i.e. the Government, and every dictionary in the world, are wrong: pornography is an offensive word.

    I've taken legal action against the IEDR about this, and I lost. The reason I lost was because the IEDR are not a company nor a Government body: they can make up whatever rules they want.

    Does anyone else think this is incredibly stupid?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Yes, pornography is just a word like any other word to describe something


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    latchyco wrote: »
    Yes, pornography is just a word like any other word to describe something

    Why are they allowed continue their stupid "oh the word pornography is a curse word" stance?

    If it were the 1950's I'd understand, but now?

    Are the management of the IEDR right-wing Christians?

    It makes no sense.

    As a (immature) protest, I set up P.ORN.IE - NOT WORK SAFE WHATSOEVER which proves they cannot keep legal porn out of Ireland.

    It depresses me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    Wow, I agree for one, ****ing prudes.. Now if you wanted analdominatrixincestingpornography.ie maybe not, but pornography is an acceptable english word! Bloody ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    sexualassault.ie is allowed.

    Ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    Lol dude, love the site! I have criminal amounts of porn, I'm a connoisseur and the word 'pornography' itself is probably the least offensive word to do with sex and porn. Rename it doublepenetration.ie :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    What other word do they want me to use? Dirty-pictures.ie?

    Their rules state they are only allowed base judgement on the word not the content.

    It is outrageous that they are allowed stop a business man like me from having a non-offensive, Government endorsed word as a domain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,386 ✭✭✭EKRIUQ


    Dirty-pictures.ie?
    cool

    yo dubindude you have sex.ie , try not to be the porn king of Ireland (unless you have free subs) and a beta version which I will give a site review if you want


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Namesco wrote: »
    yo dubindule you have sex.ie , try not to be the porn king of Ireland (unless you have free subs)

    It is my destiny to be the Irish porn king. It's going to happen. :)

    It's just annoying that I have to play this retarded game with the IEDR. They know they're going to have to eventually cop on. Why drag it out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    How the hell did boards.ie get approved? Don't they know what the word means?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,386 ✭✭✭EKRIUQ


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    It is my destiny to be the Irish porn king. It's going to happen. :)

    Don't forget me when you do


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Namesco wrote: »
    Don't forget me when you do (or if you need a wad developer)
    FTFY.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    It's a stupid and inane rule.

    To make matters even more annoying they won't implement a proper blocklist, which means that you can apply for domain names that they have no intention of ever allowing you to register.

    Of course you can get around it easily by choosing other words that they don't find "offensive", but it's a really silly game to have to play. If the rule wasn't so subjective and ambiguous I wouldn't mind, but whose morals are they trying to protect?

    Other ccTLDs, such as .us, have very clear rules on which words they will not allow, though in the case of the .us ccTLD their source is kind of amusing:
    http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/filthywords.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    Agreed. The debate shouldn't be about what is offensive or not offensive, it should be about why it is so subjective with no published guidelines / ground rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    During my legal action against the IEDR we proved neither the words porn nor pornography are offensive.

    I'd love to know what's going through the decision makers head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    During my legal action against the IEDR we proved neither the words porn nor pornography are offensive.
    Hardly surprising.

    Was the decision published?

    If so how can they justify ignoring it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    blacknight wrote: »
    Hardly surprising.

    Was the decision published?

    If so how can they justify ignoring it?

    The end result of my case was the IEDR can do whatever they want, as they are the final decision maker.

    There was also some ambiguity about what jurisdiction they're under, i.e. if I took them to the high court, the judge might say he has no authority over them.

    Things will have to change when ComReg finally take them under their wing, but until then, they can do as they please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    It is my destiny to be the Irish porn king. It's going to happen. :)

    Will you go for the Ron Jeremy or Hugh Hefner look? If you keep the facial hair and get the red dressing gown, it could be a good halfway house. Sexy time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    You should get http://porn.ograph.ie too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Gordon wrote: »
    You should get http://porn.ograph.ie too!

    That's a good one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    eoin_s wrote: »
    Will you go for the Ron Jeremy or Hugh Hefner look? If you keep the facial hair and get the red dressing gown, it could be a good halfway house. Sexy time.

    I know you have a semi thinking about that!
    Gordon wrote: »
    You should get http://porn.ograph.ie too!

    What about http://creamp.ie or http://bukkak.ie :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    ! I bet you're thinking about it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    It's fairly crazy alright - sure even the word "paddy" is offensive if it's said in a particular way / context!

    And that's the nub of the issue - any word shouldn't be annoying/offensive in itself - it's how it's used (funnily enough, that probably applies to the subject matter of the OP's word, too!)

    I'd be more likely to ban the stupid "text-speak" domains - e.g. the ones ending in "4u", or the advertising campaign ones which aren't specifically related to a company or brand name - e.g. if Tayto wanted "theresalwaysone.ie" or L'Oreal wanted "youreworthit.ie"....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Sure you may as well ban every domain then!

    I'm not sure you can compare the racial slur "Paddy" with the word "Pornography"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Go for gabhal.ie

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭Michael-O'Neill




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    Sure you may as well ban every domain then!

    I'm not sure you can compare the racial slur "Paddy" with the word "Pornography"...

    That's kinda my point! They'd probably ALLOW "paddy.ie"!!!! :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    they have allowed paddy.ie for Paddys Whiskey

    one would wonder if they would allow the word pornography in a different context. for example say pornographyaddictioncentre.ie ;) in which case if they did you'd easily get pornography.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    miju wrote: »
    they have allowed paddy.ie for Paddys Whiskey

    That's my point proven, so. The WORD isn't offensive, but it's a word that CAN be offensive DEPENDING on context and usage, but it's allowed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    I can't think of any situations where the word pornography might be offensive. Can it be used as an insult or slang or anything like that? I don't think so?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭Stab*City


    totally crap rules again.. but hey what do you expect from a pig only a grunt!! too late guys i am the irish porn king!!


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