JOHN CENA INJURED NO JOKE! FOR REALS, SWEAR (Raw Spoilers)

rovert

DRakE wrote: »

he'll be back burying tag champs in no time!

I wonder if he'll be FUing both of them at at same time anymore?

EdK

Rey will returnas the dark knight or some sort of twisted persona

Handsome Bob

b.ie curious wrote: »

Great. We've all had a good nice vent. Now lets never talk about this again, k?


What is the low down on Rey Rey's condition? He wrestled briefly against Santino after the draft, but surely the reason he has been kept off TV was because he wasn't fully fit? I doubt they'd keep him off purely for the sake of a storyline with Kane that they seem so willing to blow by bringing Mysterio back for the scramble.

Well we don't know how the storyline is going to pan out yet, I wouldn't necessarily say just yet that they are dropping the Kane/ Mysterio feud. After all, Batista did fight Kane in a grudge match this week on Raw all over Rey.

Tricity Bendix

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Well we don't know how the storyline is going to pan out yet, I wouldn't necessarily say just yet that they are dropping the Kane/ Mysterio feud. After all, Batista did fight Kane in a grudge match this week on Raw all over Rey.

I'm not saying they'll drop it, but they've had to change their plans. Whether Mysterio returns looking for vengence or as some sort of menally scarred character, I doubt WWE wanted to use the scramble as the medium for his return. It essentially diminishes the storyline by mixing it up with several others.

rovert

b.ie curious wrote: »

What is the low down on Rey Rey's condition? He wrestled briefly against Santino after the draft, but surely the reason he has been kept off TV was because he wasn't fully fit? I doubt they'd keep him off purely for the sake of a storyline with Kane that they seem so willing to blow by bringing Mysterio back for the scramble.

He was coming off an injury and negotiating his contact. He was only given clearance by his doctor to work out a week ago. Word on the street his that he is out of shape currently. In regards to his contract, him and WWE were at odds over terms as Rey wanted a bigger contract as he is a star (a TV ratings draw and merchandise machine.) While WWE does agree about Rey's assessment of himself they doubt whether he can wrestle a regular schedule without getting injured. WWE don’t want to be paying someone big money if they are out six months at a time. They came to terms just before Kane revealed Rey mask on Raw.

rovert

LZ5by5 wrote: »

W

After all, Batista did fight Kane in a grudge match this week on Raw all over Rey.

Yeah the really look like they were going to kill one another with the mat wrestling they did.

Handsome Bob

b.ie curious wrote: »

I'm not saying they'll drop it, but they've had to change their plans. Whether Mysterio returns looking for vengence or as some sort of menally scarred character, I doubt WWE wanted to use the scramble as the medium for his return. It essentially diminishes the storyline by mixing it up with several others.

True, I wouldn't be surprised though if they "have a no show" from Mysterio for the scramble. Either that or he'll return before Unforgiven, which is when btw?

rovert

EdK wrote: »

Rey will returnas the dark knight or some sort of twisted persona

PROOF? :P

(Why so serious?)

Rey is a kids character. Anyway Smackodwn is ripping off Dark Knight at the moment.

Handsome Bob

rovert wrote: »

Yeah the really look like they were going to kill one another with the mat wrestling they did.

Ha ha yeah, I was actually discussing that with someone on a different forum. They should have been kicking the crap out of each other, bloody brawling, instead they actually try to put on a wrasslin' match. The match and the build up did not gel.

rovert

LZ5by5 wrote: »

True, I wouldn't be surprised though if they "have a no show" from Mysterio for the scramble. Either that or he'll return before Unforgiven, which is when btw?

True, with three scrmable matches there is only so many different storys you can tell. Raw seems to be the screwy creative brand at the moment.

rovert

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Ha ha yeah, I was actually discussing that with someone on a different forum. They should have been kicking the crap out of each other, bloody brawling, instead they actually try to put on a wrasslin' match. The match and the build up did not gel.

Batista and Kane always have had the worst chemistry together.

CMpunked

Thanks for the update on rey, i was actually just about to ask that.

But:

rovert wrote: »

PROOF? :P
Anyway Smackodwn is ripping off Dark Knight at the moment.

How do you mean?

Handsome Bob

rovert wrote: »

True, with three scrmable matches there is only so many different storys you can tell. Raw seems to be the screwy creative brand at the moment.

Indeed, but I do think SD are very ambitious with their match, great to see them throwing the likes of Kendrick and Benjamin a chance to really step up. And as far as ECW goes, no Morrison, which is a bit of a let down.

Batista and Kane always have had the worst chemistry together.

Two wrestlers that just don't compliment each other's style. I thought Cena was on course to win this match, but now I think it's between JBL and Batista.

rovert

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Thanks for the update on rey, i was actually just about to ask that.

But:


How do you mean?

Seriously :eek:

Have you not been following the Edge/Taker feud. For example look at Edge's facial expressions during his Summerslam match and tell me he hasnt since The Joker in Dark Knight?

Handsome Bob

rovert wrote: »

Seriously :eek:

Have you not been following the Edge/Taker feud. For example look at Edge's facial expressions during his Summerslam match and tell me he hasnt since The Joker in Dark Knight?

Now that you mention it, in the promo video for their match at SS, I thought the music at the start was similar to one of the themes in TDK. You know like at the start of the promo video where Vicki is telling Edge she reinstated Taker blah blah blah, the thumping music it reminded me of TDK:eek:

mehfesto2

Pity 'Taker didn't have his bike. He coula been Batman!

But I hope Edge is gonna carry that kind of behaviour on consistently on his return. It was alright in context of the match, but it was a tad OTT - He's no Heath Ledger, let's be honest.


With regards to Cena being out, personally I though the RAW scramble was only going to end up with Cena or Punk with the belt. With them two feuding for it for a period. I've no idea how it's going to pan out now. Anyone care to make a prediction?

rovert

mehfesto2 wrote: »

Pity 'Taker didn't have his bike. He coula been Batman!

But I hope Edge is gonna carry that kind of behaviour on consistently on his return. It was alright in context of the match, but it was a tad OTT - He's no Heath Ledger, let's be honest.

When it comes Wrestling though, Edge has been pretty much peerless recently.

CMpunked

rovert wrote: »

Seriously :eek:

Have you not been following the Edge/Taker feud. For example look at Edge's facial expressions during his Summerslam match and tell me he hasnt since The Joker in Dark Knight?

Well yeah, but i would not have really came to that conclusion.
Good observation, but poses me with so many questions, like who is two face?

Wait, vickie! metaphorically of course.

mehfesto2 wrote: »

With regards to Cena being out, personally I though the RAW scramble was only going to end up with Cena or Punk with the belt. With them two feuding for it for a period. I've no idea how it's going to pan out now. Anyone care to make a prediction?

I had always thought it would play out that way too,
Have cena and punk fighting over it after the fallout.

But now, well i just have no idea.

It cant be rey or JBL.
Rey because to have him as a "two time" champ wouldnt work, especially the way that kane wont be in the title picture legit for a while.
And JBL, mainly because this has to be his final onslaught on the title.

Handsome Bob

mehfesto2 wrote: »

Pity 'Taker didn't have his bike. He coula been Batman!

But I hope Edge is gonna carry that kind of behaviour on consistently on his return. It was alright in context of the match, but it was a tad OTT - He's no Heath Ledger, let's be honest.


With regards to Cena being out, personally I though the RAW scramble was only going to end up with Cena or Punk with the belt. With them two feuding for it for a period. I've no idea how it's going to pan out now. Anyone care to make a prediction?

I think Batista will win and probably turn heel. He'll feud with Punk for a few months and then Cena will probably come back, win the rumble and sets up a match for WM25.

Either that or he stays face and feuds with Orton if he's back I don't know!:pac:

rovert

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Well yeah, but i would not have really came to that conclusion.

The F4W boards went crazy with man love for Edge when he did it.

Tricity Bendix

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Two wrestlers that just don't compliment each other's style.

Tell that to Batista. He seems to think they have great chemistry.

CMpunked

rovert wrote: »

The F4W boards went crazy with man love for Edge when he did it.

Unfortunately we dont get that sort of enthusiasm here.


Just out of curiosity and slightly off topic, does it cost anything to join that forum?

Vince135792003

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Just out of curiosity and slightly off topic, does it cost anything to join that forum?

www.f4wonline.com All the details are there.

rovert

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Unfortunately we dont get that sort of enthusiasm here.

Yeah lot of psychology students or friends of psychology students all raved about Edges performance in that match.

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

Just out of curiosity and slightly off topic, does it cost anything to join that forum?

They frown on nOObs over there so I’d post with caution if you decide to join, seriously. Otherwise the board is fine as long as your name isn’t Bryan Alverez.

CMpunked

Vince135792003 wrote: »

www.f4wonline.com All the details are there.

I knew the website address thanks, but to save me from go there i just wanted to know that one thing.

On the other hand, this was very helpful:

rovert wrote: »

They frown on nOObs over there so I’d post with caution if you decide to join, seriously. Otherwise the board is fine as long as your name isn’t Bryan Alverez.

Vince135792003

Comic-Book-Guy wrote: »

I knew the website address thanks, but to save me from go there i just wanted to know that one thing.

I thought I was being helpful. If you clicked the link I'm sure the price would have been very visible and all that you get with it.

Bubs101

I've been very tempted to join for a couple of months now if only for the podcasts which are brilliant. Say it'll be a matter of weeks before I bite the bullet

rovert

Bubs101 wrote: »

I've been very tempted to join for a couple of months now if only for the podcasts which are brilliant

The audio archive is ungodly HUGE.

Some of the Non-Bryan podcasts on the site are better than Bryan's own show are you into Japanese, Indy (Chikara, ROH etc), MMA or Classic wrestling, Bubs?

Off now to read this weeks Observer just posted :pac:

flahavaj

rovert wrote: »

Some of the Non-Bryan podcasts on the site are better than Bryan's own show are you into Japanese, Indy (Chikara, ROH etc), MMA or Classic wrestling, Bubs?

Now THESE would interest me. theres very little decent Indy and Japan coverage out there. Even on here very few people are interested in Japan in a big way except for maybe Fozzy or Michael etc, who posts on here all to rarely for my liking.

Bubs101

Strictly TNA and WWE on the wrestling front, don't like the low end production and never ending finishers of ROH etc. and found Japanese wrestling to slow paced but I'm starting to get big into MMA so I'd use those ones as well

flahavaj

Bubs101 wrote: »

Strictly TNA and WWE on the wrestling front, don't like the low end production and never ending finishers of ROH etc. and found Japanese wrestling to slow paced but I'm starting to get big into MMA so I'd use those ones as well

Try some Dragon Gate or even better, Toryumon. Slow paced it is NOT!

Bubs101

flahavaj wrote: »

Try some Dragon Gate or even better, Toryumon. Slow paced it is NOT!

Does is still have that Puro style that Kenta and Misawa use though. Not a big fan of that

flahavaj

Bubs101 wrote: »

Does is still have that Puro style that Kenta and Misawa use though. Not a big fan of that

Not particularly, its like more impactful, stiffer lucha on speed. Did you see the TNA World X Cup? Two of the Japanese team, Doi and Yossino are DG standouts. I you enjoyed their tag match with the MCMG, you'll LOVE Dragon Gate. A good starting point would be the 6 man exhibition tags they put on in ROH every year on Wrestlemania weekend.

rovert

Bubs101 wrote: »

Strictly TNA and WWE on the wrestling front, don't like the low end production and never ending finishers of ROH etc. and found Japanese wrestling to slow paced but I'm starting to get big into MMA so I'd use those ones as well

There are two very good strictly MMA radio shows; one a magazine type show suitable for novices to the sport and up. The other is somone breaking down fights solo for two hours :eek: which is pretty much for the hardcores.

flahavaj

Here's a nice example Bubs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBF25VPYAkI&feature=related

Rjd2

Like many I thought Cena versus Batista was a lock for Mania, but if he misses Mania what do people expect Raw’s main event to be? Batista v Orton or would Edge or Hunter come over from SD to boost the main event?

Bubs101

flahavaj wrote: »

Not particularly, its like more impactful, stiffer lucha on speed. Did you see the TNA World X Cup? Two of the Japanese team, Doi and Yossino are DG standouts. I you enjoyed their tag match with the MCMG, you'll LOVE Dragon Gate. A good starting point would be the 6 man exhibition tags they put on in ROH every year on Wrestlemania weekend.

Were they the two guys who had a gimmick like one of them was super fast and the other was super strong or something? They kicked off the whole thing if I can remember correctly. They were savge. Might check Dragon Gate out

flahavaj

Bubs101 wrote: »

Were they the two guys who had a gimmick like one of them was super fast and the other was super strong or something? They kicked off the whole thing if I can remember correctly. They were savge. Might check Dragon Gate out

Thats them, Yossino is the fastest wrestler I've ever seen:eek: and Doi is an animal. They used to tag as Speed Muscle in DG storylines and were the best tag team in the world there for a while, in my opinion.

rovert

rovert wrote: »

Off now to read this weeks Observer just posted :pac:

According to this week's issue 20% of Raw's audience is stupid. :eek:

flahavaj

rovert wrote: »

According to this week's issue 20% of Raw's audience is stupid. :eek:

Only 20?

rovert

flahavaj wrote: »

Only 20?

Also every one who spoke out about the Benoit murders has been cursed.
Dave is on mad one this week.

Fozzy

flahavaj wrote: »

Only 20?

They're just the ones who tuned into the wrong channel after being told it was on a different channel last week

I'm expecting something like WWE.com reporting that John Cena got into a severe rapping accident in December, of which there are no public records of, and then he'll return at the Rumble and headline Wrestlemania against Orton

rovert

rovert wrote: »

He was coming off an injury and negotiating his contact. He was only given clearance by his doctor to work out a week ago. Word on the street his that he is out of shape currently. In regards to his contract, him and WWE were at odds over terms as Rey wanted a bigger contract as he is a star (a TV ratings draw and merchandise machine.) While WWE does agree about Rey's assessment of himself they doubt whether he can wrestle a regular schedule without getting injured. WWE don’t want to be paying someone big money if they are out six months at a time. They came to terms just before Kane revealed Rey mask on Raw.

According to the Observer Rey had a number of surgerys, the original of which he got an infection from.

flahavaj

Fozzy wrote: »

They're just the ones who tuned into the wrong channel after being told it was on a different channel last week

I'm expecting something like WWE.com reporting that John Cena got into a severe rapping accident in December, of which there are no public records of, and then he'll return at the Rumble and headline Wrestlemania against Orton

I misread that as having only one "p" there for a minute.:eek:

CMpunked

It would be typical to have supercena return at the royal rumble, unannounced and then win it.

Wow,

Deja Vú!!

mehfesto2

mehfesto2 wrote: »

With regards to Cena being out, personally I though the RAW scramble was only going to end up with Cena or Punk with the belt. With them two feuding for it for a period. I've no idea how it's going to pan out now. Anyone care to make a prediction?

Ladies and gentlemen, here is your winner, and NEW World Heavyweight Champion...

Mitch Connor

i do think Orton well be back sooner then expected following his 'crash' but i don't know how they could get him into the match at this point. Unless he takes out one of the guys before the match starts and takes their place.

Tauren

Tauren wrote: »

i do think Orton well be back sooner then expected following his 'crash' but i don't know how they could get him into the match at this point. Unless he takes out one of the guys before the match starts and takes their place.

Or if Kane takes out Rey before the match...

Mitch Connor

If Kane takes Rey out before the match (possible) then there was really no point in announcing Rey for the match at all. I think Rey needs to make some sort of impact on his return. If Kane takes him out, 'again', it doesn't bring the story anywhere.

Tauren

Tauren wrote: »

If Kane takes Rey out before the match (possible) then there was really no point in announcing Rey for the match at all. I think Rey needs to make some sort of impact on his return. If Kane takes him out, 'again', it doesn't bring the story anywhere.

Yeah, but since when have WWE ever made sense?:pac:



Really though; I don't know what Kane did to rey, but i believe he never physically hurt him. Just mentally (somehow). He said rey's fine, but his spirit is dead. Maybe Kane will see rey at the PPV, get annoyed, and decide to physically hurt him.


Alternatively, orton could spot a saddened, hurt, rey backstage, lay in with a chair, take his spot, come out last and take the belt.



I dont know how they'll do it, but i can just smell orton coming into it somehow...

I dont think rey is fit to wrestle either, therefore i don't see him being in the match. But im not 100% sure of his physical condition.