Champions league Draw- Best and worst

meditraitor

The business end of the Champions league will start tonight with the draw for the competition proper

Looking at the pots there are some nasty teams in each pot.

So who do you want from each pot for your team


As usual the 32 sides are split into four seeding pots, with one from each being drawn into the eight groups, though no team can meet another from the same association. All four English clubs are included in Pot 1

Pot 1 Club
1 Manchester United FC (ENG, holders)
2 Chelsea FC (ENG)
3 Liverpool FC (ENG)
4 FC Barcelona (ESP)
5 Arsenal FC (ENG)
6 Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
7 FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
8 Real Madrid CF (ESP)



Pot 2 Club
9 FC Bayern München (GER)
10 PSV Eindhoven (NED)
11 Villarreal CF (ESP)
12 AS Roma (ITA)
13 FC Porto (POR)
14 Werder Bremen (GER)
15 Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
16 Juventus (ITA)

Pot 3 Club
17 Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
18 FC Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS)
19 FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
20 Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
21 FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
22 Celtic FC (SCO)
23 FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
24 Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)

Pot 4 Club
25 FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)
26 ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
27 Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
28 FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
29 CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
30 Aalborg BK (DEN)
31 Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP)
32 FC BATE Borisov (BLR)

Good group
Liverpool
Eindhoven
Celtic
FC Bate

Hard Group
Liverpool
Bayern Munich
Zenith St Petersburg
Atletico Madrid

What do yous think?

gixerfixer

As a Liverpool fan id say the harder the draw the better we play so i couldnt care who we got. As the team has proved in recent years we are a handfull for anyone in the European Cup so bring it on.
If i was to pick some teams it would be
Liverpool
Porto
Basel
Aalborg BK

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I'd say united would just love Roma again

monkey9

What time is it on at?

meditraitor

monkey9 wrote: »

What time is it on at?

5pm I think

emc2

4:30 live on sky....I sure that means the draw is on at 5. I think rte.ie are doing a webcast too...

monkey9

As a Liverpool fan, the best would be:

Liverpool
Sporting
Basle
FC BATE Borisov

The worst:

Liverpool
Bayern Munich
Zenit St Petersburg
Atletico Madrid

Dolph Starbeam

For Celtic - *fingers crossed*
Lyon
PSV
Celtic
Bate


Hard Group-
Chelsea
Bayern
Fenerbache
Kyiv

missingtime

I can see the phrase "Good group/Bad Group on paper" being used a lot.

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missingtime wrote: »

I can see the phrase "Good group/Bad Group on paper" being used a lot.

I can see the phrase "easy draw for United AGAIN" used a lot

kronsington

as a gooner i'd be hoping for

Arsenal
Sporting
Steaua
Anorthosis

and looking to avoid

Arsenal
Bayern
Zenit
Fiorentina

TripleAce

Finally the real Champions League is back! It filled me with pain not to have a proper Champions League for two years.....how can teams like Barcelona and Man Utd take pride in of winning a trophy when the best team in the world was not allowed to participate due to conspiracy? On my book, the last two CL don't count. :cool:

Welcome back Old Lady!

eZe^

Pwned^


Btw- Barca won it when Juve were participating, it was Milan and Utd you're thinking of.

Mr.Nice Guy

Hmm would be great to see Mourinho go up against Celtic once more. :cool:

TripleAce

eZe^ wrote: »

Pwned^


Btw- Barca won it when Juve were participating, it was Milan and Utd you're thinking of.

oh you are right, sorry....well then only the Man Utd one. I don't know any team called AC Milan....never heard of them, they must have been some charity-case team that got lucky once....

Dolph Starbeam

TripleAce wrote: »

oh you are right, sorry....well then only the Man Utd one. I don't know any team called AC Milan....never heard of them, they must have been some charity-case team that got lucky once....

Or maybe the club paid there way thanks to there **** of an owner or president:D Obviously Juve would stay away from bold things like that:P;)

LuckyLloyd

I disagree with the logic that says Zenith are the toughest team in pot 3. I think that for any of the English sidesl - the Celtic tie would be much more of a problem. Going to Glasgcow on a European night is incredibly intimidating - and they would be bursting themselves to do you in both games. Rather avoid that to be fair.

monkey9

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I disagree with the logic that says Zenith are the toughest team in pot 3. I think that for any of the English sidesl - the Celtic tie would be much more of a problem. Going to Glasgcow on a European night is incredibly intimidating - and they would be bursting themselves to do you in both games. Rather avoid that to be fair.

That's true. I just don't want to give Celtic any credibility

eagle eye

Worst draw for any of the English clubs imo would be

<Insert English club here>
Bayern Munich
Celtic
Fiorentina

eZe^

Zenit will also not have Arshavin and Pavy, and they are struggling in the Russian league atm. They dont seem to be as strong as last year.

emc2

Liverpool to be in the same group as Roma ..... with all the liverpool old boys going there over the summer...

Smegball

eZe^ wrote: »

Zenit will also not have Arshavin and Pavy, and they are struggling in the Russian league atm. They dont seem to be as strong as last year.

They didn't have Pavy anyways, he's a Spartak Moscow player

eZe^

My bad! I mean't Pogrebnyak! A couple of rumblings from Madrid sources saying he might be on their agenda if they can't bag Huntelaar!

Smegball

Anybody know of any live feeds for the draw, other than the BBC text updates?

monkey9

Smegball wrote: »

Anybody know of any live feeds for the draw, other than the BBC text updates?

You can watch it on the RTE website

LuckyLloyd

Smegball wrote: »

Anybody know of any live feeds for the draw, other than the BBC text updates?

RTE website.

Smegball

http://www.justin.tv/psn_2
For anyone interested.

Tom65

Smegball wrote: »

They didn't have Pavy anyways, he's a Spartak Moscow player

Why does everyone think he's a Zenit player!? Argh!

spockety

www.rte.ie/live

Jugs82

Live on a link from http://www.Yahoo.co.uk - coverage from EuroSport

ROCKMAN

CECH........ Keeper European Team of the Year
( UEFA CLUB KEEPER OF THE YEAR)

LuckyLloyd

He was pretty good in the CL games last year tbf - even if I think the Shalke keeper was better on the whole. In any case, nice suit Petr!!

And the presenter woman is awesome imo.

delija_sever029

Is this Tevez?:D

ROCKMAN

JOHN TERRY........ CLUB DEFENDER OF THE YEAR

spockety

And we have seen Ronaldo sitting beside Fergie so presumably he is midfielder of the year..

~Rebel~

psv in d with pool

ROCKMAN

LIVERPOOL GET PSV
ARSENAL GET PORTO
UTD GET VILLAREAL
CHELSEA GET ROMA

ROCKMAN

LAMPARD.... Club Midfielder of the Year

LuckyLloyd

A

Chelsea
Roma
Bordeaux
CFR 1907 Cluj (ROM)

B

Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Panathinaikos
Anorthosis (CYP)

C

Barcelona
Sporting Lisbon
Basel
Shaktar Donetsk

D

Liverpool
PSV
Marseille
Athletico Madrid

E

Man Utd
Villarreal
Celtic
Aalborg BK (DEN)

F

Lyon
Bayern Munich
Steaua Bucaresti
Fiorentina

G

Arsenal
Porto
Fenerbache
Dynamo Kiev

H

Real Madrid
Juventus
Zenit St. Petersburg
BATE Borisov (BLR)

TripleAce

Easy draw for my Juve....I see we can pull 18 points here :cool:

JP Liz

Champions League Draw

Group A: Chelsea, AS Roma, Bordeaux, Cfr Cluj
Group B: Inter Milan, Werder Bremen, Panathinaikos, Anorthosis Famagusta
Group C: Barcelona, Sporting Lisbon, FC Basel, Shaktar Donetsk
Group Liverpool, PSV Eindhoven, Marseille, Atletico Madrid
Group E: Manchester United, Villarreal, Celtic, Aalborg
Group F: Lyon, Bayern Munich, Steaua Bucuresti, Fiorentina
Group G: Arsenal, Porto, Fenerbache, Dynamo Kiev
Group H: Real Madrid, Juventus, Zenit St Petersberg, Bate Borisov

As a MU fan i'm happy with their group looking forward to them playing Celtic

mousey007

I think Liverpool are going to be knocked out

weemcd

Group - D
Liverpool
PSV
Marseille
Athletico Madrid

Tough group, think that will be a good group to watch for the neutral, potentially good games in there, esp. Marseille v Liverpool at anfield again.

Group H should be scrappy enough as well with Juve and Real looking to return to cl glory.Think Inter have got off the lightest of the top seeds (now watch them implode on the European stage ) As for utd & chelsea, cant see them not qualifying first from their respective groups, arsenal should qualify, but might find it a bit tougher. ..

PHB

Sorry as a side note, what in the world did Terry or Lampard do to get best defender and midfielder? The clear choice for defender is Ferdinand after his performances in the CL. Midfielder could go to lots of people, but Lampard? What the **** like.

Mr Alan

Lampard was pretty excellent against us in Stamford bridge to be fair. I know its not judged over one game.

but i get the feeling PHB you wouldnt have been happy unless the honours went to

VDS,Ferdinand,Scholes,Ronaldo.

There was nothing between Chelsea and Utd last year, except a slight slip. The awards reflect that to an extent.

monkey9

Terry getting the award, i can understand. But Lampard getting it is a joke!

PHB

Lampard was poor last season. His standards the previous seasons have been much much much higher.

How anyone can honestly say anybody but Ferdinand was the best defender in Europe last year is actually beyond me. Like, its beyond comprehension.

Fabregas would probably be my choice for midfielder, or Ballack (who was the better midfielder in the Chelsea team last year)
Lampard is absurd.

monkey9

Maybe, just maybe, the judges weren't all Utd fans cos it's only Utd fans moaning about this.

Mitch Connor

monkey9 wrote: »

Maybe, just maybe, the judges weren't all Utd fans cos it's only Utd fans moaning about this.

possibly because the other fans agree with the choices made or, maybe, possibly, they don't care so why would they moan about it.

Cech and Lampard I can actually get my head around (lampard scored in every round) but I don't think Terry was even the best defender in the Chelsea side. Sideshow was, and then Rio was better than both imo.

Even Cech though, while great, shipped some poor goals against Fener, didn't he? van der Saar did concede just two goals in the knock out phase.

JP Liz

Cristiano Ronaldo, the pivotal figure in Manchester United FC's march to UEFA Champions League glory last season, had more to celebrate today after collecting the UEFA Club Footballer of the Year prize at the awards ceremony in Monaco. The Portuguese international forward was also selected as the Best Forward while there was some consolation for Chelsea FC, the side United overcame in Moscow in May, as Petr Čech, John Terry and Frank Lampard were nominated as Best Goalkeeper, Defender and Midfielder respectively.

Sensational season
Ronaldo scored United's goal at the Luzhniki Stadium – his 42nd in all competitions in a prolific club campaign – and although he subsequently missed in the penalty shoot-out, United bounced back to become champions of Europe for the third time. It completed a sensational season for Ronaldo, who finished as the UEFA Champions League's eight-goal top scorer and also claimed the ESM Golden Shoe having struck 31 Premier League goals as United retained their title. The 23-year-old succeeds AC Milan's Kaká as the Club Footballer of the Year and is the second Portuguese international to land the prize after Deco in 2004. As he reflected upon the stars who had previously received the accolade, Ronaldo said: "It's a pleasure to be part of this magnificent group of players. To win this award is great for me and I feel very proud. The Champions League is a great level and to be one of the best players in it is great."

Forward accolade
Ronaldo also becomes the second United player to take home the overall award after David Beckham in 1999, while Ruud van Nistelrooy was voted Best Forward while at Old Trafford in 2003. Asked what was the secret of his success, Ronaldo replied: "Work. I think Manchester had a great season and I scored many goals. I feel very proud to be the best forward as I played as a winger – it is very good for me and gives me more ambition to become better. Thanks to all my team-mates and those that voted for me."

Chelsea cheer
Čech, meanwhile, beat off competition from United's Edwin van der Sar, Manuel Almunia, Manuel Neuer and Pepe Reina to lift the Best Goalkeeper gong for the second successive year and for the third time in total, having also been honoured in 2005. He was presented with his trophy by Peter Schmeichel, the winner of the inaugural prize in 1998. His abiding memory of the season was perhaps his role in the UEFA Champions League final penalty shoot-out. He said: "Of course it was difficult because it was only up to me and the five players who would shoot. But I tried to remember what I had seen from the videos I'd watched and what I'd talked about with other goalkeepers. This is what was going through my mind."

Terry honoured
Terry, who was handed his award by Franco Baresi, had been voted Best Defender in 2005, but was no less delighted about his latest silverware. "For me personally it's an amazing achievement," he said, adding: "To be a great defender you need a lot of attributes – to be quick, strong, good in the air and you also need plenty of great team-mates around you and I'm very lucky to have that." One of those colleagues, Lampard, became the first Chelsea player – and only the second English-based footballer after Beckham nine years ago – to take the midfield plaudits, given out by Sir Bobby Charlton. He said: "It feels very good. When you see the players that you're up against, there are some world-class players there. I've been up for the award for three years now so it's nice to finally win it."

Well done Cristiano Ronaldo

LuckyLloyd

PHB wrote: »

Lampard was poor last season. His standards the previous seasons have been much much much higher.

How anyone can honestly say anybody but Ferdinand was the best defender in Europe last year is actually beyond me. Like, its beyond comprehension.

Fabregas would probably be my choice for midfielder, or Ballack (who was the better midfielder in the Chelsea team last year)
Lampard is absurd.

I would have given the midfield gig to Ballack. Fabregas might have been great in the EPL - but he was poor in both legs against Liverpool in the quarter final imo. Wheras Ballack was superb all the way through the knockout stages.

And god bless a variation of opinions - when the nominations were being announced I fully expected Terry's name to be called. He had an edge over every other player in the competition from the games I saw. Seems like the coaches of teams in the competition agreed with that viewpoint.

Chelsea and Utd were equally as good in the competition and the cup winners was decided on a coinflip. As such, it makes sense that the awards were up for grabs from players from BOTH teams.