Waterford - Tramore Road closed

Sully

joe250 wrote: »

The New chipping are not sticking.
We waited one year for this?
The road was alot better BEFORE they started a year ago.

I think that's why the second coating went down. It seemed to be stripping again after the first batch, the second batch has the problem where there are far too many loose chippings.

I do wonder is the type of surface not correct for such a road that takes such a large volume of traffic and at speeds of up to 80kph.

Stan Nangle

Sully wrote: »

I think that's why the second coating went down. It seemed to be stripping again after the first batch, the second batch has the problem where there are far too many loose chippings.

The plan was always for two coats.

The first coat (as I understand it) was to fill the gaps in the previous layer. Then the second coat was to provide a smooth layer on top.

There will always be some stripping of a tar and chip surface.

I do wonder is the type of surface not correct for such a road that takes such a large volume of traffic and at speeds of up to 80kph.

It is not correct. You won't find that grade of chippings on any similiar road near Dungarvan.

There should also be a 30km/h Road Works Speed Limit in place while the chips are bedding in. Most traffic is still doing 80k and this is part of the reason the chips are stripping.

If it keeps raining today the spray from the wheels will strip off lots of chippings and once this reaches a critical mass you are looking at a repeat of last year.

joe250

When i passed going to work this morning second layer was stripped off in places.

mike65

Who does the work?

Sully

Stan Nangle wrote: »

The plan was always for two coats.

The first coat (as I understand it) was to fill the gaps in the previous layer. Then the second coat was to provide a smooth layer on top.

There will always be some stripping of a tar and chip surface.

Oh right, okay. I was only told this morning from someone locally that was the reason they re-did it. The above sounds more logical.

It is not correct. You won't find that grade of chippings on any similiar road near Dungarvan.

There should also be a 30km/h Road Works Speed Limit in place while the chips are bedding in. Most traffic is still doing 80k and this is part of the reason the chips are stripping.

If it keeps raining today the spray from the wheels will strip off lots of chippings and once this reaches a critical mass you are looking at a repeat of last year.

There is a Road Work Speed limit, its not being enforced. I assumed the cones are put far out to slow down traffic.

Stan Nangle

Sully wrote: »

Oh right, okay. I was only told this morning from someone locally that was the reason they re-did it. The above sounds more logical.

I posted back in May that they were going to use two layers. :rolleyes:

There is a Road Work Speed limit, its not being enforced. I assumed the cones are put far out to slow down traffic.

There is NOT a Road Works Speed Limit!

A Road Works Speed Limit has to be advertised in advance in the Papers, and it can only be 30km/h or 50km/h. It will have round signs with red rings on them, and the 80km/h signs will be covered over.

The Council have dropped a few 25km/h signs along the road, but the speed limit is 80km/h.

There is no such thing as a 25km/h limit in Ireland.

Sully

Stan Nangle wrote: »

I posted back in May that they were going to use two layers. :rolleyes:



There is NOT a Road Works Speed Limit!

A Road Works Speed Limit has to be advertised in advance in the Papers, and it can only be 30km/h or 50km/h. It will have round signs with red rings on them, and the 80km/h signs will be covered over.

The Council have dropped a few 25km/h signs along the road, but the speed limit is 80km/h.

There is no such thing as a 25km/h limit in Ireland.

Jesus Stan no need to get so worked about it!

Actually forgot you mention the speed limit thing before.

turninggreen

I drove out the Tramore road yesterday evening and it looks like the same problem is already re-appearing with bald patches in areas. The cones were very close together (to slow traffic and reduce flying chippings I presume) but I felt too close for comfort. I am not a road engineer but I think it might have worked better if the whole top layer was stripped off to remove the first botch up. Laying another surface ontop of an already proven failed surface does not make sense to me.

baronflyguy

Anyone know who do email or write to to complain of the state of that road since the loose chippings were put down, it's a disgrace!!!

Its a minefield for punctures.
They should not be allowed leave that amount of loose chippings on the road. Lazy shabby work is all I can say.

I used to love going for cycle down to tramore from the city on that road. Now I can't. It was a handy cycle for me on a big open wide road.

I had to turn back there recently after venturing slightly into the chippings.

I'm really pissed to be honest with the state it has been left in.:mad:

mike65

I drove out the road for a look see. As the CC are using the weight and volume of traffic to compress the top surface the cones are clearly a hazzard cos a good 50% of the dressing is still loose are they going to move the cones and get commuters to squash the other half? Before sweeping the rest*?





*yeah right.

Psychedelic

mike65 wrote: »

Who does the work?

The Council did the work themselves last time, so they are possibly doing it again.

shanemul

Correct me if im wrong but as far as im aware there has being a crash already on the road since the new surface went down. From what I know the cars wheel got caught in a rut that has already developed in the road and pitched the car into the ditch

Sully

Psychedelic wrote: »

The Council did the work themselves last time, so they are possibly doing it again.

So I am told. Unless Stan knows different.

jimmay!

The Tramore Triathlon is going to on in a few weeks and it will be using this road surely something will have to be done with the road before this.

It is a disgrace of a road to drive on as well with the chippings flying everywhere. I nearly ended up in the ditch there one day trying to avoid the chippings breaking my windscreen from the bus on the otherside of the road flying along and knocking up a load of stones, the back end of my card slide out as i hit the loose chippings. CRAZY!

Sully

jimmay! wrote: »

The Tramore Triathlon is going to on in a few weeks and it will be using this road surely something will have to be done with the road before this.

Also the Sean Kelly Cycling Tour event. I would assume they will clean the road, and hopefully remove the cones.

It is a disgrace of a road to drive on as well with the chippings flying everywhere. I nearly ended up in the ditch there one day trying to avoid the chippings breaking my windscreen from the bus on the otherside of the road flying along and knocking up a load of stones, the back end of my card slide out as i hit the loose chippings. CRAZY!

I would advise reducing your speed to what they have - 35km/hr - or so as you do risk loosing control at the 80km/hr speed. Even with the bus going slow, and other trucks, the chippings are flying around the place. Its madness, the side of my car has been hit loads of times but luckily any stone that hit the window never did any damage. Yet.

jimmay!

Sully wrote: »

I would advise reducing your speed to what they have - 35km/hr - or so as you do risk loosing control at the 80km/hr speed. Even with the bus going slow, and other trucks, the chippings are flying around the place. Its madness, the side of my car has been hit loads of times but luckily any stone that hit the window never did any damage. Yet.

I don't think i was even going that fast 60km/h at the most because i was in a line of traffic. Trying to drive at 35km/h would be quite hard as it is very very slow especially on a big straight road like that and driving at this speed will cause frustation among drivers stuck behind you. Driving too slow is just as bad as driving too fast but not in this case as driving slow is understandable

Sully

jimmay! wrote: »

I don't think i was even going that fast 60km/h at the most because i was in a line of traffic. Trying to drive at 35km/h would be quite hard as it is very very slow especially on a big straight road like that and driving at this speed will cause frustation among drivers stuck behind you. Driving too slow is just as bad as driving too fast but not in this case as driving slow is understandable

True.. would be a fair bit slow alright.

Waterford26

Sully wrote: »

Also the Sean Kelly Cycling Tour event. I would assume they will clean the road, and hopefully remove the cones.



I would advise reducing your speed to what they have - 35km/hr - or so as you do risk loosing control at the 80km/hr speed. Even with the bus going slow, and other trucks, the chippings are flying around the place. Its madness, the side of my car has been hit loads of times but luckily any stone that hit the window never did any damage. Yet.

Loosing control at the 80km/h?? ..u joking?..on the bicycle maybe

Sully

Waterford26 wrote: »

Loosing control at the 80km/h?? ..u joking?..on the bicycle maybe

You can loose control of your car at pretty much any speed. The faster you go, the more dangerous it is. I dont have the stats of hand, but I have been to plenty of presentations by the Garda Traffic Squad which has covered all this in detail.

Stan Nangle

Coming into Tramore this evening, just beyond Robin Hill, I noticed skid marks and broken glass, and then farther on what looked like a breach in the ditch.

Anybody see anything?

shanemul

Stan Nangle wrote: »

Coming into Tramore this evening, just beyond Robin Hill, I noticed skid marks and broken glass, and then farther on what looked like a breach in the ditch.

Anybody see anything?

Might wanna look back to my post earlier Stan http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61434807&postcount=133 will explain why

Sully

shanemul wrote: »

Might wanna look back to my post earlier Stan http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=61434807&postcount=133 will explain why

There seems to be glass on the road today though.

shanemul

not connected glass is from someone clipping one of those cones that are far too close to the road

Stan Nangle

shanemul wrote: »

not connected glass is from someone clipping one of those cones that are far too close to the road

Thanks for that.

ps: They are only too close if you are driving too fast

Sully

Stan Nangle wrote: »

Thanks for that.

ps: They are only too close if you are driving too fast

Have you tried driving out there at 1am?! Pitch black and its fecking dodgy enough, especially if a car is coming against you as its hard to see where the cones might be tonight - some scary moments dodging cones out in the middle of the road!

Waterford26

Sully wrote: »

Have you tried driving out there at 1am?! Pitch black and its fecking dodgy enough, especially if a car is coming against you as its hard to see where the cones might be tonight - some scary moments dodging cones out in the middle of the road!

..get phillips X-treme power bulbs for the best night vision ever!!..numero uno

Sully

Putting down the road markings now. Will that mean there won't be those annoying traffic cones down? Hopefully.

Waterford26

looks like

Sully

More surfacing starting today it seems. Machinery all out on the road!