The Irish Server???

Spear · 02-09-2008 9:35am

death1234567 wrote: »

TBH that's one of the things I am going to do first if/when its possible, chicken Pwnage FTW!

There's a whole series of tome titles for playing as chicken as well.

Tyrant^ · 02-09-2008 9:57am

100% PVP Open RvR

Kiith · 02-09-2008 10:06am

So, on Open RvR you turn into a chicken as soon as you enter a lower zone? Will that really work? What happens when your levelling up, ding (i swear i wont user this term again), then bam, your a chicken. Seems like an odd way of doing it.

I'll follow the masses though. Chaos masses that is.

KoKane · 02-09-2008 10:36am

IT wont work at all but due to the masses on the beta forums, its hard to get the point across. It just cant work like that. Higher rank players have to be allowed permission to enter lower tier zones, otherwise the server will reach a point where you are forced to make a new char to shift control in those zones.

The chickening feature is lacking in imagination.
I really hope they come up with something more creative than that.
Low rank players get buffed up to the max of the tier they are in, when entering rvr zones.
I cant understand why they cant come up with a debuff system that makes higher rank players, the same rank as the lower ones and blocks their spells etc.
Sure it would be a lot more coding, but they are Developers lol

death1234567 · 02-09-2008 10:36am

Kiith wrote: »

So, on Open RvR you turn into a chicken as soon as you enter a lower zone? Will that really work? What happens when your levelling up, ding (i swear i wont user this term again), then bam, your a chicken. Seems like an odd way of doing it.

I'll follow the masses though. Chaos masses that is.

Yeah its a good point that I didn't think of, it means there are areas of the game where you can't go without turning into a chicken if you are a high level. Can't help lower level friends, can't explore bits you missed...not a good idea.

Spear · 02-09-2008 10:46am

death1234567 wrote: »

Yeah its a good point that I didn't think of, it means there are areas of the game where you can't go without turning into a chicken if you are a high level. Can't help lower level friends, can't explore bits you missed...not a good idea.

There's also the argument that on open servers, the PvP will be diluted since there's less need for the RvR lake, and the focus will be lost on the BO's and keeps.

death1234567 · 02-09-2008 1:48pm

Yeah I think Core servers are the way to go now.

DeVore · 02-09-2008 10:11pm

Core (ie: lowest common denominator) for the Irish server, then let everyone then do their own thing with alt. So if you want to be on a closed server then you are, if you want to be on an open server just never turn off your PVP tag or hop over to an Alt. Does that sound like a plan or am I missing something!

DeV.

DanOB · 02-09-2008 10:15pm

im confused.. whats core?

Spear · 02-09-2008 10:22pm

DanOB wrote: »

im confused.. whats core?

The standard set of rules, i.e. chickened only when you manually flag yourself for PvP in a lower tier.

Spear · 02-09-2008 10:23pm

DeVore wrote: »

Core (ie: lowest common denominator) for the Irish server, then let everyone then do their own thing with alt. So if you want to be on a closed server then you are, if you want to be on an open server just never turn off your PVP tag or hop over to an Alt. Does that sound like a plan or am I missing something!

DeV.

There's no such thing as closed, it's core or open, RP or not.

whatduck · 02-09-2008 11:11pm

Core is what the developers created the game around, there are no PvE servers as this isn't WoW. Its primarily a RvR game which means that if you don't like PvP you probably won't get much out of it.

I think Open is just something the devs added as an afterthought because there was demand for it.

I'm 100% behind rolling on a Core server.

DeVore · 03-09-2008 2:21am

fnck it, lets even have 1 open and 1 core as the irish servers, at least we wont be spread over the whole range as usual!

DeV.

KoKane · 03-09-2008 11:56am

Well if everyone is planning an Order alt at some stage, why not plan for that on the Open RvR server?

No harm in all sticking together for each new server, unless someone wants to purposely go a new path which is fine.

Destruction Zerg on Core and Order zerg on Open?

Whichever servers we choose, do so with pings in mind (although ping could change with server population

Maximilian · 03-09-2008 1:34pm

DeVore wrote: »

fnck it, lets even have 1 open and 1 core as the irish servers, at least we wont be spread over the whole range as usual!

DeV.

I dunno about that - some people like to have one or maybe two mains tops (like me). I think for better or worse we should stick with the one server or we'll end up with some preferring one server and others another server. I assume we can create multiple charachters on servers in the full game.

Rev Hellfire · 03-09-2008 2:11pm

Yep, I'm the same. It'll be one server tops for me.

whatduck · 03-09-2008 2:35pm

If the chickening mechanic goes through as it is in the latest patch notes than I won't be rolling any characters on an Open server. Its completely retarded as it is at the moment.

death1234567 · 03-09-2008 2:39pm

whatduck wrote: »

If the chickening mechanic goes through as it is in the latest patch notes than I won't be rolling any characters on an Open server. Its completely retarded as it is at the moment.

You in the beta? I am not but from what I have read I agree, its sounds terrible (except for the possiblilty over running around as a little chicken --> Chicken Pwnage FTW :pac:).

whatduck · 03-09-2008 2:47pm

I'm not in the beta. I have been reading a good few threads on peoples concerns over the chickening mechanic on warhammeralliance. For a good while no one was sure how it was going to work on Open because there was no Open servers in beta. Looks like the worst has been confirmed, I hope they change this or I can see the Open servers being sparsely populated.

Spear · 03-09-2008 3:00pm

whatduck wrote: »

I'm not in the beta. I have been reading a good few threads on peoples concerns over the chickening mechanic on warhammeralliance. For a good while no one was sure how it was going to work on Open because there was no Open servers in beta. Looks like the worst has been confirmed, I hope they change this or I can see the Open servers being sparsely populated.

The alternative is to allow ganking and Mythic have said from the start they wouldn't. It seems if you want the "purer" ideal of WAR is everywhere then you have to give up far too much.

R0ot · 03-09-2008 3:15pm

Spear wrote: »

The alternative is to allow ganking and Mythic have said from the start they wouldn't. It seems if you want the "purer" ideal of WAR is everywhere then you have to give up far too much.

From the sounds of it, Eve is closer to the war is everywhere ideal, but WAR should still be interesting.

DanOB · 03-09-2008 3:17pm

anyway, they're still making changes- dont forget that

Spear · 03-09-2008 3:18pm

R0ot wrote: »

From the sounds of it, Eve is closer to the war is everywhere ideal, but WAR should still be interesting.

But in core you can still of course choose to flag yourself for RvR, rather than have it forced upon you. Is Eve's system similar?

Rev Hellfire · 03-09-2008 3:28pm

There's no flag to flip in eve, its default pvp for everyone.

Spear · 03-09-2008 3:29pm

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

There's no flag to flip in eve, its default pvp for everyone.

That's how open works in WAR, except I doubt Eve turns you into a chicken for entering a lower tier system.

death1234567 · 03-09-2008 3:30pm

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

There's no flag to flip in eve, its default pvp for everyone.

Is it a gankfest? I've never played eve. I think stopping ganking is a good idea but this chicken mechanic creates more problems than it solves TBH.

R0ot · 03-09-2008 3:44pm

death1234567 wrote: »

Is it a gankfest? I've never played eve. I think stopping ganking is a good idea but this chicken mechanic creates more problems than it solves TBH.

Okay don't want to drag this topic any further off topic so simple answer then any other info you want drop me a PM or ask in the Eve Online forum.

Eve has 3 levels of systems High Sec, Low Sec and Null Sec (0.0) ranked between 1.0 to 0.0.

High sec has NPC security called Concord which will destroy any unprovoked attack on someone, you cannot kill them and they will eventually destroy you. (edit: If your smart and don't go afk auto-piloting in High Security Space your usually ok) This however does not always protect the victim that was attacked in the first place, to coin a player phrase - 'CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.'. You also take a hit to your security status based on the rank of the system you attack someone in. War Declarations are the only alternative that, for certain fee, will turn a corp/alliance of corps into a viable target therefore creating a null sec sort of thing in High Security between the corps/alliances involved in the war.

Low sec you still take a security hit and there is minimal NPC protection at gates and stations but not in space, null sec being the anything goes way where players make their own rules and regulations (bar exploits). Any further questions on the matter pm me or hit the eve online forum.

Back on topic: The flagging yourself for pvp thing doesn't exactly appeal to me, but the concept of the WAR game itself is why i'm playing it anything else will be a bonus or something to keep me in the game longer.

Rev Hellfire · 03-09-2008 3:55pm

There's no such thing as off topic in this forum

omg back-seat modding ban ban ban

R0ot · 03-09-2008 3:58pm

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

There's no such thing as off topic in this forum

omg back-seat modding ban ban ban

Sorry i've had my run in with the WoW'ers over this,

rev. :pac:

Rev Hellfire · 03-09-2008 4:10pm

flash back time !

The Irish Server???

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