Are the Motors>Motors mods too Lock happy?

Lord Nikon

An Motor Enthusiasts Forum???

VH

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

ninty9er wrote: »

Now there's a sticky we could have:

Stickies are badly maintained - importing from the UK a definitive guide is hundreds of pages of muck and should be deleted

ninty9er

neuromancer wrote: »

An Motor Enthusiasts Forum???

it'd be too fragmented. the whole forum would lose it's appeal of you're average "interested in cars in general" person like me and the "oil in their veins" type like E92

ninty9er

VH wrote: »

Stickies are badly maintained - importing from the UK a definitive guide is hundreds of pages of muck and should be deleted

It could be locked with suggested additions to be pm'd to mods

Eoin

ninty9er wrote:

to name a few and people could be pointed at the sticky and their thread deleted if it's been done 500 times before?

Deleting threads is not something that should be done so lightly - it really makes it hard to give any degree of transparency.

Just because there may be a specialist marque website out there doesn't mean that there is no place here for discussion as well.

If that approach was taken, then you wouldn't see half the forums here in the first place. What's the difference between sending all BMW threads to bmw-driver.net (great site btw), and sending all motoring threads to octane.ie?

Some people prefer the idea of a community with lots of different forums under the one virtual roof, rather than being members of dozens of discussion forums on various different sites that can be a little too blinkered.

bazz26

I think the mods here do a great job and not an easy one either. You can never please everyone. I think some people just need to cut them some slack.

So where do I sign up to become a motors mod?

Max_Damage

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

Coup d'état!

peasant

ninty9er wrote: »

Now there's a sticky we could have:

links to specific model technical sites-
www.opelownersclubireland.com
www.fto-ireland.com
www.bmw-driver.net


to name a few and people could be pointed at the sticky and their thread deleted if it's been done 500 times before?

AudiChris wrote: »

...and the AA petrol prices website, the "how tyres work" website, the penalty points website, the ROTR website....

I think a sticky of FAQ/frequently needed links would go down a treat!

Just on that note ..you might want to have closer look at this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055037358 and ALL the links in there.
Kbannon has done a sterling job in combining it all. Clicking on "The Knowlege" link will reveal another sterling job by Mike when he was the mod of this forum
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=223438

ninty9er

peasant wrote: »

Just on that note ..you might want to have closer look at this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055037358 and ALL the links in there.
Kbannon has done a sterling job in combining it all. Clicking on "The Knowlege" link will reveal another sterling job by Mike when he was the mod of this forum
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=223438

I'd never have thought to look there, and I've been around a while. Maybe a bit of an update??

peasant

It's always being updated

-Chris-

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ninty9er wrote: »

I'd never have thought to look there, and I've been around a while. Maybe a bit of an update??

+1

I never occurred to re-read the charter since I read it first. Maybe I'll get some more links together and PM them to KB and we can keep growing that list!

Steve

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hmmm I see Herr K's name has now appeared in the mod box.

should we be afraid?

should we be very afraid?



or is this just because he's a cMod now?

peasant

SteveC wrote: »

hmmm I see Herr K's name has now appeared in the mod box.


or is this just because he's a cMod now?

That would be it ..his name appears on every forum in "REC" ..just like WWM

E92

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

peasant wrote: »

That would be it ..his name appears on every forum in "REC" ..just like WWM

Saw your post directed at me last night, and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised:).

Unfortunately I won't have the time to answer it until tomorrow evening, but rest assured I will get back to it when I have enough spare time to do so.

In the meantime I hope nobody does anything to get this thread closed;)!

unkel

E92 wrote: »

In the meantime I hope nobody does anything to get this thread closed;)!

Too late. Locked, deleted and you are now permabanned

RubberMammy

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

The freedom of expression on the Internet has been drastically eroded by Mods.

Websites are really not interested in personal points of view.

They are in fact terrified of being sued.....and of losing market share on the statcounters.

That's it.

So keep running up the stats and sterilising your brains

unkel

peasant wrote: »

you might want to have closer look at this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055037358 and ALL the links in there.

Indeed. I got the impression from this thread that we haven't made the point clearly enough that a lot of info and FAQs are available through the charter. I've added a sticky pointing that out and asking people for feedback, new links, etc.

Seth Brundle

RubberMammy wrote: »

The freedom of expression on the Internet has been drastically eroded by Mods.

Websites are really not interested in personal points of view.

They are in fact terrified of being sued.....and of losing market share on the statcounters.

That's it.

So keep running up the stats and sterilising your brains

I'm not sure how long you have been reading boards but with a join date of August 08, I'm inclined to think that you have not been reading the forums here for that long.
However, maybe you could elaborate on your points:
1. how have mods (presumably you are referring to mods in general and not just the motors mods here) drastically eroded freedom of expression? I was under the belief that there is no freedom of expression in the media if it infringes on somebody elses rights!
2. as for your point that websites are not interested in personal points of view, what websites are you referring to? With many sites, a point of view is not relevant as they are marketing tools for a business, etc. However, the likes of boards is out to allow people express their point of view. However, this does not give people a carte blanche to insult or defame others.
3. How does website stats affect the policy here on boards? I don't know most of the stats here on boards nor do I really care about them as it doesn't change my own experience on here!

The likes of this site exists for its users and the content is provided by its users - without them its nothing. However, as with any community there are always idiots, rulebreakers and others out to make trouble in some shape of form. Are you really suggesting that these should be allowed to continue what they do best? I would question whether a site would continue to exist if that were the case!

RubberMammy

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

See what I mean!

That took a good three mins before the jack boot of the Moderator came crashing down with a numbered list and referring to idiots.

You are right k bannon I dont usually stay up till after midnight on blogs or boards as I have a life, what's your excuse?.

I am down with flu at present so have had to make do with the idiots as you refer to them on the internet.

Seth Brundle

well I hope you get better soon so that you don't have to endure the burden of the internet.
In the meantime, if you don't like people asking you to respond to silly comments then you know where the door is!
As for the suggestion of me not having a life, maybe its not the life that you want, but I must admit that I'm quite content with my lot! For it to even occur to you suggests to me that you are not happy with yours! Still, why should I care!

Seth Brundle

RubberMammy wrote: »

That took a good three mins before the jack boot of the Moderator came crashing down with a numbered list and referring to idiots.

Oh, and it was 16 minutes!

RubberMammy

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

You Mods are great.

You have just proved my point.

You're welcome as long as you sterilisie your comments and spin up the hit rate.

Disagree with us and ........There's the door.

Have you given any thought to joining up with the force son?

RubberMammy

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

By the way, it's Mods in general.

Nothing personal


..........:rolleyes:

Darragh29

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

You can't go on the Legal forum and ask for legal advice there so I don't see why someone can come on here and ask for professional advice on the same basis. Say for example we currently have an open thread here started by some guy with a 05 Passat who has an oil light problem and thinks its because the oil level is low and he wants to know what oil to put in to top it up. Say I give him the wrong info, or say the level is ideal but the sensor is defective and he overfills the engine and it seriously damages the engine and we're into replacing oil seals and the rest of is. Where are we then??? Where are boards.ie then???

unkel

Darragh29 wrote: »

Say I give him the wrong info, or say the level is ideal but the sensor is defective and he overfills the engine and it seriously damages the engine and we're into replacing oil seals and the rest of is. Where are we then??? Where are boards.ie then???

You haven't read the charter then about advice being given here, have you?

General advice here is to be taken with a mountain size grain of salt. Slanderous remarks without proof however in the style of "garage x clocked my car" can lead to legal action against boards. Boards.ie is a privately owned company and there is no such thing here as freedom of speech unfortunately

To put a positive spin on it, why don't you put some personal info into your signature, Darragh? Something like: "I'm Darragh, and I'm a qualified mechanic.... (you fill in the rest)"

Darragh29

No: not enough mod control : too many threads out of control

unkel wrote: »

You haven't read the charter then about advice being given here, have you?

I have, but if it is that clear cut, then why can't advice be given in the legal forum (and let's be honest with ourselves, they're solicitors and barristers over there!), with the same qualifications attached to the advice given? Some of the advice being asked for on this forum carries serious repair bills if the advice turns out to be incorrect. Also, how do you know people read the charter before they contribute here, it's not like you are forced to read the charter???

Seth Brundle

RubberMammy wrote: »

You Mods are great.

You have just proved my point.

You're welcome as long as you sterilisie your comments and spin up the hit rate.

Disagree with us and ........There's the door.

Have you given any thought to joining up with the force son?

Thats not what I said so stop trying to stir it up!
If you dislike they system then go elsewhere. However, you do not have free reign to do what you like. You cannot have that level of freedom anywhere. Please try and understand that very simple concept.

unkel

Darragh29 wrote: »

if it is that clear cut, then why can't advice be given in the legal forum

I don't know about the legal forum. This is motors and if you advise someone to top up their engine oil levels with water and subsequently their engine is wrecked, they can not sue you*. It is that clear cut.

* Obviously it wouldn't be so good for your reputation as a mechanic around here

martinr5232

Be good for buissness though.:D:D

gyppo

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used to be a regular poster here, but work got in the way for a while.:)
Anyhow, my views on this:

1 This forum is probably one of the best modded on boards, and I think the balance is right. Its a thankless job, and the mods here have a busy forum. Peasant seems to be getting most of the flak here - unfair imo, as any discussions I've seen him participate in were always courteous and evenhanded.
2 The written word does not always convey the desired emotion, and some people had difficulty grasping this concept, taking offence at a statement where no offence was intended. Its something I'm sure we've all been guilty of at some moment (Even me!) . So, perhaps people should chill out a bit before launching counter-attacks.
3 Thread Locking is often fairly obvious, eg legal reasons etc.
Perhaps the mods might give a little more feedback for thread locking on those where the reason is not that clear.
4 The odd banning here and there would do no harm. Some new posters appear to come on here just to take the p*ss.