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All Ireland Final 2008 KERRY Vs TYRONE
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The majority of Kerry supporters here seem to think its a guessing game of how big a margin their team will win by. Have u been watching the championship this year or read the local rags in Killarney? This Tyrone team is a better side and will confirm that they are the team of the decade on the 21st. I hope and expect to hear loads from you from now until then because from the 22nd on i hav a feeling all the PC's in Kerry will be down
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Kerry's defense is still going to be the toughest Tyrone have come up against all year. Full of All-Stars and classy performers, a propensity to give scores away alright, but still a stiffer test of a Tyrone forward line that was much maligned all year by all commentators up until the defeat of an over-hyped and fairly poor Dublin team.
They did well in the first half against Westmeath, a tough defensive test. I'd ignore the second half, mainly because of 13 men and Tyrones dreadful shooting!eagleeye wrote:Kerry's back-line has looked more solid with Tommy Griffin in there, and I'd love for the people who are talking this epic Tyrone forward line up to show me a few posts from before the Dublin game when they said how great they are!
I'd a few posts arguing the potential of the Tyrone forwards, particularly pointing out the importance of McCullough and T. McGuigan delivering on their potential, which they did! I don't really know what more they can do? I gave Tyrone a chance, but still tipped Dublin based on last year, especially their showing against Kerry.They are young players who have taken the chance when it arose this year. 3-15 or whatever it was, is impressive particularly with about 3-11/12 from play and 5/6 wides. I can't see how anybody can argue otherwise!
I had seen flashes of what Tyrone could do before the Dublin, personally I thought next year would be the breakthrough.
Also, teams and forwards have to prove greatness. There where a few in Kerry questioning Donaghey's greatness in July 2006!This is well written, but there is nothing in here that I agree with as far as the game between Kerry and Tyrone is concerned.
You are basing all you say on Tyrone's last five games because they were horrendous in Ulster.
I wouldn't go that far. Having been at the drawn match and having seen a fair bit of the replay, Tyrone where reasonable in midfield, very good in the forward line but poor at the back. I wouldn't use the Down game as a comparison as they've made changes (Cavanagh being FF a massive one) and players like McGinley and McMenamin have come into form.eagle eye wrote:They have played teams from Leinster, the weakest province at the top end of football at the present time.
Personally, I'd say Connacht is.eagle eye wrote:Yes they looked dominant in these games but against what type of opposition? Louth, Westmeath, Dublin and Wexford was possibly the easiest route to the final you could wish for.
I'd look at that and say the tests got tougher when you include Mayo too. As we often hear from Kerry fans, an easy route doesn't mean anything and you can only beat what's put in front of you!:D eg. 04 & 06 to an extent. I'm also confused, was Dublin a serious test for Kerry last year, but not for Tyrone this year? I think they where big tests for both teams. Tyrone answered their critics who said they where finished and did it in style!eagle eye wrote:While Tyrone struggled with Mayo, Kerry, after letting Galway back into the game, eventually dispatched them with ease.
That's assuming Kerry just ease up in every game and let teams equalise with them, though it is becoming an alarming trend!
Bergin had a good goal chance that would have put Galway ahead near the end too!eagle eye wrote:Thats the only barometer of any sort to measure these teams as far as this championship is concerned. I'm not saying its a good one either, but it might show a gulf in class between these teams.
The barometer that Tyrone have been consistently improving is a good one too. It's very hard to judge Cork this year, they struggled against Kildare and Limerick and where poor for 150/210 minutes against Kerry! Monaghan are a good but limited team.eagle eyes wrote:Kerry and Cork are miles ahead of the rest of the country right now and you seen two games both of which Kerry should have won handily if they hadn't sat back when they got a comfortable lead and much like the Munster Final also where Kerry were ahead by 8 at half time. Look at the other games Kerry played in the Championship outside of the Cork game and you see dominance.
Again, we don't know how good Cork really are. Monaghan gave them a tougher run than the last 2 Cork games. No complacency there!eagle eye wrote:Kerry are well known for playing their best game of the year in All-Ireland finals throughout history, thats the way they do things.
Except for 02 and 05, oh and the semis of 01 and 03.
Tyrone have a poor enough record in QF's this decade, but when they do win them, they win All Irelands! Means nothing!eagle eye wrote:I expect Tyrone to get mauled by Kerry. I expect to see Paul Galvin start and he wil make some difference to that team as well. Tyrone are big and strong but they are not natural footballers like this Kerry team.
Really, I do wonder what Tyrone footballers people are looking at sometimes? Maybe it's the defence who aren't natural backs, in the sense that they attack and score points! How many AI senior, U-21, Minor, colleges etc. medals do these guys need to be natural footballers? :eek:eagle eye wrote:You can talk all about the strength and power but they don't score well under pressure and they will be under pressure all day against Kerry.
Kerry haven't played for seventy minutes in any game this year but you can be sure as hell that they will play the whole final.
And of course Tyrone will sit back and watch like Galway did!Just a few points of clarification.
1. I am not from Munster and I have no affiliation with Munster in any way.
Never said you where!
My point was the second best team in Ireland IYO, struggled to beat Louth last year and Kildare this year, you know those weak Leinster counties.eagle eye wrote:2. Seanies32, Kerry put Monaghan away with one short burst. That showed the class they possess. I didn't say Monaghan were strong opposition but they did well last year and when Kerry win this year again, they will have been eliminated by the All-Ireland champions two years running.
One short burst over 70 minutes? You'd swear they where just toying with them!:D Kerrys class told in the end.homerjay2005 wrote: »errm, what have louth got to do with this?
Indeed, I don't know why eagle eye mentioned them!
A Qualifier tie in July doesn't have much relevance now!homerjay2005 wrote:there not exactly a great yard stick......tyrone struggled last year or the year before with them, i cant remember cork playing them, but i assume if they did play them last year, it was the last qualifier round....did they? i would remember the game if louth gave them a game, but i would think that this result was comfortable for cork if they played them.
Cork did indeed beat Louth and Sligo last year. Cork beat Louth by 2 points so the memory is deserting you! I'm noticing a trend here with Cork and one that questions any assertion they are the second best in Ireland.homerjay2005 wrote:
anyway, totally useless comparison!!
Agreed. Which is why attaching significance to Tyrones games against Down and Louth is pointless.Tyrone have had by far the easier route to the final meeting an average Wexford team, an average Dublin team, an average Mayo team, and have flattered to deceive.
Kerry have had tough encounters against Cork (twice), Galway and Monaghan under their belts and should have no problem accouting for Tyrone.
I'd put the 3 teams Kerry beat as average or not much better eg. Galway aren't much better, if any, than Dublin. In 3/4 games above they've let teams back in the game.Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.
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The majority of Kerry supporters here seem to think its a guessing game of how big a margin their team will win by. Have u been watching the championship this year or read the local rags in Killarney? This Tyrone team is a better side and will confirm that they are the team of the decade on the 21st. I hope and expect to hear loads from you from now until then because from the 22nd on i hav a feeling all the PC's in Kerry will be down
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They did well in the first half against Westmeath, a tough defensive test. I'd ignore the second half, mainly because of 13 men and Tyrones dreadful shooting!
There see, pressure on the Tyrone forwards and thats exactly what happensI'd a few posts arguing the potential of the Tyrone forwards, particularly pointing out the importance of McCullough and T. McGuigan delivering on their potential, which they did! I don't really know what more they can do? I gave Tyrone a chance, but still tipped Dublin based on last year, especially their showing against Kerry.They are young players who have taken the chance when it arose this year. 3-15 or whatever it was, is impressive particularly with about 3-11/12 from play and 5/6 wides. I can't see how anybody can argue otherwise!
I had seen flashes of what Tyrone could do before the Dublin, personally I thought next year would be the breakthrough.
Also, teams and forwards have to prove greatness. There where a few in Kerry questioning Donaghey's greatness in July 2006!
Everyone knows that Dublin did not turn up on the day and in any case were completely overrated as usual.I wouldn't go that far. Having been at the drawn match and having seen a fair bit of the replay, Tyrone where reasonable in midfield, very good in the forward line but poor at the back. I wouldn't use the Down game as a comparison as they've made changes (Cavanagh being FF a massive one) and players like McGinley and McMenamin have come into form.
Are you originally from Tyrone by any chance seeing as you were at that match? That would explain a lot, like the Tyrone tinted goggles. I am not counting the Down game either, not that it matters that much whether you do or you don't, but you seem to want to discount every match that Tyrone have played that does not support your argument.Personally, I'd say Connacht is.
Overall as a province Connacht is weaker, but Galway and Mayo are ahead of every team in Leinster imo.I'd look at that and say the tests got tougher when you include Mayo too. As we often hear from Kerry fans, an easy route doesn't mean anything and you can only beat what's put in front of you!:D eg. 04 & 06 to an extent. I'm also confused, was Dublin a serious test for Kerry last year, but not for Tyrone this year? I think they where big tests for both teams. Tyrone answered their critics who said they where finished and did it in style!
As I said already, don't mind how Kerry get there, its the big day that counts.That's assuming Kerry just ease up in every game and let teams equalise with them, though it is becoming an alarming trend! Bergin had a good goal chance that would have put Galway ahead near the end too!
Ifs and ands:rolleyes:The barometer that Tyrone have been consistently improving is a good one too. It's very hard to judge Cork this year, they struggled against Kildare and Limerick and where poor for 150/210 minutes against Kerry! Monaghan are a good but limited team.
Yes that Mayo match showed consistent improvementAgain, we don't know how good Cork really are. Monaghan gave them a tougher run than the last 2 Cork games. No complacency there!
You don't, I am certain that they are the second best team in the country.Except for 02 and 05, oh and the semis of 01 and 03.
Tyrone have a poor enough record in QF's this decade, but when they do win them, they win All Irelands! Means nothing!
This is 2008, and I'll let you in on a little secret, Kerry have won the two All-Irelands since '06.Really, I do wonder what Tyrone footballers people are looking at sometimes? Maybe it's the defence who aren't natural backs, in the sense that they attack and score points! How many AI senior, U-21, Minor, colleges etc. medals do these guys need to be natural footballers? :eek:
They look like Rugby players, they play like Rugby players, nothing natural about most of the team. In fact every time they play I am expecting one of them to turn to his left or right and throw the ball backwards.And of course Tyrone will sit back and watch like Galway did!
Its a matter of not being able to do anything about it, such is the class of Kerry.Never said you where!
My point was the second best team in Ireland IYO, struggled to beat Louth last year and Kildare this year, you know those weak Leinster counties.
Last year, what did Tyrone do last year now that you bring it up?One short burst over 70 minutes? You'd swear they where just toying with them!:D Kerrys class told in the end.
When they needed to do it, it was done.;)Indeed, I don't know why eagle eye mentioned them! A Qualifier tie in July doesn't have much relevance now!
I included Louth in the list of teams that Tyrone have beatin in the qualifiers, nothing more, I did not bring up any games as such. So don't lay that one at my doorstep. Tyvm.
Last year again:rolleyes:Cork did indeed beat Louth and Sligo last year. Cork beat Louth by 2 points so the memory is deserting you! I'm noticing a trend here with Cork and one that questions any assertion they are the second best in Ireland.Agreed. Which is why attaching significance to Tyrones games against Down and Louth is pointless.
You seem to want to make us believe that Down and Louth don't matter this year, but in Corks case their game against them last year does matter. And again I didn't attach anything to it, I just mentioned the teams that Tyrone beat so far.I'd put the 3 teams Kerry beat as average or not much better eg. Galway aren't much better, if any, than Dublin. In 3/4 games above they've let teams back in the game.
As I keep telling you the real All-Ireland was drawn and replayed and Kerry won it by beating the second best team in the country Cork. And if Galway are not much better than Dublin, where does that leave Mayo? and leading on from that where does it leave Tyrone?
One more little thing, where should be were for future reference;)0 -
The majority of Kerry supporters here seem to think its a guessing game of how big a margin their team will win by. Have u been watching the championship this year or read the local rags in Killarney? This Tyrone team is a better side and will confirm that they are the team of the decade on the 21st. I hope and expect to hear loads from you from now until then because from the 22nd on i hav a feeling all the PC's in Kerry will be down
really? i can see you being a great poster on here with posts like this to start off with.
there aint many kerry people on here to begin with, just because somebody says kerry by 8,doesnt mean they are from kerry. theres a small band of regular kerry posters on here and we all expect a tough, hard game what will go down to the wire. you wil get the odd person here and there entering in schoolboy willy waving, but the genuine kerry fans all know what to expect.
hope to hear from you too when the final is over and you can add to that massive postcount that you have, considering your such a seasoned regular on here and know everybodys views and background inside out!!!!!!!!!!!0 -
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There see, pressure on the Tyrone forwards and thats exactly what happens
Everyone knows that Dublin did not turn up on the day and in any case were completely overrated as usual.
As a Dub who was at the game I disagree with this. Tyrone never let Dublin play on the day. they knocked us off form from the throw in, but this wass more due to Tyrones tactics then Dublin not turning up. We could not get comfortable on the ball in the early stages of the match. To my mind this was down to excellent play by Tyrone as mmuch as poor play by the Dubs. Their swarm defence was particularly effective against us.
Barney there is only one team of the decade and to my mind it is not Tyrone. They may have the consolation of being team of 2008, but we wont know that for a week or two.0 -
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You really know your stuff boy!There see, pressure on the Tyrone forwards and thats exactly what happens
No, that didn't actually happen. It was poor shooting under no pressure in the second half!eagle eye wrote:Everyone knows that Dublin did not turn up on the day and in any case were completely overrated as usual.
Everyone except a large section of posters here and others!eagle -eye wrote:Are you originally from Tyrone by any chance seeing as you were at that match? That would explain a lot, like the Tyrone tinted goggles. I am not counting the Down game either, not that it matters that much whether you do or you don't, but you seem to want to discount every match that Tyrone have played that does not support your argument.
No, Knew you would think that, just not part of the anti-Tyrone brigade. I'm a GAA fan who was lucky to be at a neutral at a few Ulster matches this year, the best Ulster Championship in years. Tyrone Down where 2 crackers, but very few seen them. I'm from a county that has no particular love for Tyrone!eagle eye wrote:Overall as a province Connacht is weaker, but Galway and Mayo are ahead of every team in Leinster imo.
Sure everyone knows that! :rolleyes:eagle eye wrote:As I said already, don't mind how Kerry get there, its the big day that counts.
Thanks for that, wasn't aware of that one, any more cliches, sorry nuggets of wisdom there?eagle eye wrote:Ifs and ands:rolleyes:
Well, stop quoting them when it suits, like Mayo against Tyrone.eagle eye wrote:Yes that Mayo match showed consistent improvement
Indeed, as the quality of the opposition has improved they have improved, As you say Mayo are better than any Leinster team, Dublin, so yes it's consistent to hammer Dublin and struggle against Mayo , consistent improvement indeed :rolleyes:eagle eye wrote:You don't, I am certain that they are the second best team in the country.
And I am absolutely certain they have only beaten average teams the last 4 years, barring Kerry in the so called Munster championship! FACTS!eagle eye wrote:This is 2008, and I'll let you in on a little secret, Kerry have won the two All-Irelands since '06.
Matters zilch on Sunday week!eagle eye wrote:They look like Rugby players, they play like Rugby players, nothing natural about most of the team. In fact every time they play I am expecting one of them to turn to his left or right and throw the ball backwards.eagle eye wrote:Its a matter of not being able to do anything about it, such is the class of Kerry.eagle eye wrote:Last year, what did Tyrone do last year now that you bring it up?eagle eye wrote:When they needed to do it, it was done.;)
Be prepared to be surprised on Sunday week!eagle -eye wrote:I included Louth in the list of teams that Tyrone have beatin in the qualifiers, nothing more, I did not bring up any games as such. So don't lay that one at my doorstep. Tyvm.
You listed the Leinster teams they played, conveniently ignoring Cork struggle to beat Louth as well last year.eagle eye wrote:Last year again:rolleyes:
And Kildare this year?eagle eye wrote:You seem to want to make us believe that Down and Louth don't matter this year, but in Corks case their game against them last year does matter. And again I didn't attach anything to it, I just mentioned the teams that Tyrone beat so far.
Why did you mention them if you don't attach anything to it?eagle eye wrote:As I keep telling you the real All-Ireland was drawn and replayed and Kerry won it by beating the second best team in the country Cork. And if Galway are not much better than Dublin, where does that leave Mayo? and leading on from that where does it leave Tyrone?
Not another one, looks for ignore button! You don't appear to get the fact that I was twisting your irrational logic!:rolleyes: Now your twisting my twisting of your irrational logic!eagle eye wrote:One more little thing, where should be were for future reference;)
Cheers, one more good reason to keep using it!I can understand why you think this being a Dublin fan. The 'swarm' defence you are talking about will work against a team that don't have many forwards that can score from play. This defensive tactic will not work against Kerry. That is the big problem Dublin have had all along is the lack of players that score consistently from open play.
I don't expect the swarm defence to be that effective, the swarm attack will be though!Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.
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I'm not even going to bother with that rubbish.You really know your stuff boy!
No, that didn't actually happen. It was poor shooting under no pressure in the second half!
Everyone except a large section of posters here and others!
No, Knew you would think that, just not part of the anti-Tyrone brigade. I'm a GAA fan who was lucky to be at a neutral at a few Ulster matches this year, the best Ulster Championship in years. Tyrone Down where 2 crackers, but very few seen them. I'm from a county that has no particular love for Tyrone!
Sure everyone knows that! :rolleyes:
Thanks for that, wasn't aware of that one, any more cliches, sorry nuggets of wisdom there?
Well, stop quoting them when it suits, like Mayo against Tyrone.
Indeed, as the quality of the opposition has improved they have improved, As you say Mayo are better than any Leinster team, Dublin, so yes it's consistent to hammer Dublin and struggle against Mayo , consistent improvement indeed :rolleyes:
And I am absolutely certain they have only beaten average teams the last 4 years, barring Kerry in the so called Munster championship! FACTS!
Matters zilch on Sunday week!
Be prepared to be surprised on Sunday week!
You listed the Leinster teams they played, conveniently ignoring Cork struggle to beat Louth as well last year.
And Kildare this year?
Why did you mention them if you don't attach anything to it?
Not another one, looks for ignore button! You don't appear to get the fact that I was twisting your irrational logic!:rolleyes: Now your twisting my twisting of your irrational logic!
Cheers, one more good reason to keep using it!
I don't expect the swarm defence to be that effective, the swarm attack will be though!
Here is a question for you, explain Tyrones performance against Mayo, and not in a couple of words, put a bit of time into it. Lets see what you really know about the game.
Explain how their defence is going to cope with the Kerry forwards.
Tell me what you think of young Walsh, whats your opinion of Dara O'Se. Will Tyrone win midfeild against Kerry and why or how?
Will the Tyrone forwards get the space they were used of in previous games this year in the final against Kerry?
What do you expect Tyrone to score in the final, how much do you think they need to score to win the game?
Where is Kerry's biggest weakness and how do Tyrone go about exploiting it. What areas of the field are Tyrone stronger than Kerry and vice versa?
Will the substitutes play a big part in the game?
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I thought we where discussing rugby?
Seriously mate, you need to open your eyes to Tyrones style of play. They evolved from 03 to 05 and they've done it again in 08 to suit a team with no Canavan, O'Neill or to all intents and purposes, Mulligan.I'm not even going to bother with that rubbish.
I'd a suspicion I shouldn't have bothered with your first post here, utter rubbish. The likes of posts like your own have a tendency to appear at certain times of the year, then disappear! Your own posts have been full of the usual cliches. No doubt the fullness of time will tell!eagle eye wrote:Here is a question for you, explain Tyrones performance against Mayo, and not in a couple of words, put a bit of time into it. Lets see what you really know about the game.
OK, . I'll look forward to your analysis of the Kerrys collapse in 3 games against Cork, not one line smug scentences, but proper explanations.
Bad points: Quality of foot passing , shots short on goal a few times and into goalkeepers hands was very poor by their standards. Backs in general gave away a few soft frees. Combine this with them losing the ball in the tackle too easily on a few occasions and this gave Mayo a lot of possession needlessly.
Tyrones all out counter attack football depends on passes not going astray or not being disposessed. Leaves them exposed at the back, which didn't happen against Dublin or Wexford to the same extent.
This wasn't the case against Westmeath, Dublin or Wexford. Forward line, in particular the McGuigans struggled.
Good points: Midfield, in particular Enda McGinley was class. The first 20 minutes and the 6 points in a row to win the game. Cavanagh finally showing what he can do roving between FF, Center half and midfield.McCullough, Harte and Penrose stepping up to the mark.Explain how their defence is going to cope with the Kerry forwards.
Simple, swarm counter attack, Tyrone style total football! They'll be prepared to concede a goal or two no problem, this isn't Monaghan they are playing!. That will only happen if quality ball goes into the FF line which is where Kerry are vulnerable, see comments about D. O'Se below. Tyrones half backs and half forwards have the fitness to track all over Croke Park, unlike Armagh or Monaghan, so any non quality ball into the FF line can be broken down with Tyrone players around it. Having said all that I expect Kerry to score a goal or 2, I'd be disappointed if they didn't.Tell me what you think of young Walsh
Yeah, he's good, be interesting to see who Harte puts on him., whats your opinion of Dara O'Se.
His career or this year? Actually scrap that, you tell me how good he has been this year?Will Tyrone win midfeild against Kerry and why or how?
Definitely possible. McGinley has been the outstanding midfielder this year. Also their second midfielder is even more important in that they have no set partner for him. Mellon, Jordan or Holmes can do a man marking job or replace each other if needed. Gormley, MacGuigan and McMahon WILL win breaking ball with Harte and Dooher backing them up.Will the Tyrone forwards get the space they were used of in previous games this year in the final against Kerry?
Well, how do you rate the Kerry FB line this year? Meehan and Freeman got plenty of room as did Cork in the Munster final and the SF Replay. Tyrones direct running and off the ball cuteness is ideally suited to expose probably the weakest line in the Kerry team.What do you expect Tyrone to score in the final, how much do you think they need to score to win the game?
Strangely, I don't attach much significance to that in this match! They'll score what they have to when they counter attack in numbers! I can see 1-15 at least to win it and they are capable of that on their day.Where is Kerry's biggest weakness and how do Tyrone go about exploiting it.
One is the full back line, the other is running at the half back line with plenty of players in support. It isn't rocket science, Cork have shown it with less talented players!What areas of the field are Tyrone stronger than Kerry and vice versa?
Ah, wrong way to look at it. Kerry probably are more talented as they where in 03 and 05, counts for nothing. Tyrone appear stronger in midfield and the half backs plus the overall all out total attack football when in possession. All are comfortable in possession.Will the substitutes play a big part in the game?
Anything other analysis you wish to add?
Probably, Tyrones substitutions have been crucial this year, particularly in the earlier stages of the championship when they where struggling. Eg. Holmes and Penrose against Mayo.
PS. Left out the one, most vital ingredient that Tyrone have, they don't fear Kerry! They relish playing them.Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.
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homerjay2005 wrote: »lets hope the weather will be better this time next week....
looks like paul galvin will be on the bench anyway the next day.
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helpisontheway wrote: »How do you know that Homerjay?
just from what i hear and reading between the lines. i just cant see him starting now. hope im wrong tho, i would love it if he did though.0 -
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homerjay2005 wrote: »i honestly dont know what way kerry are going to line up....my source from within the camp is saying very little and i think its going to stay that way!!!!
if i was pickin the team, i would line up like this, however I dont think kerry will play like this. sheehan will be in for galvin and dont be surprised if padraig reidy starts in the corner with Griffan in reserve. marc and tom are away better in the corners, so i would start griffan, but i dont think it will happen.
D Murphy
M O Shea
T Griffan (P Reidy to be on real team)
T sullivan
Thomas
Aidan
Killian
Darragh Shea
Seamus Scanlon
Galvin (but sheehan will get the nod on free taking)
Declan Sullivan
Eoin Brosnan (with darran sull to be the impact sub here also)
Gooch
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Tommy Walsh.
i reckon 13 of that team is spot on. so its either T griffan or Reidy for the last defensive spot.
and then galvin V brosnan for the last wing forward position.
brian sheehan will start, but i dont think he should. purely based on his poor work rate. he is only there for frees.
Would you really consider Brosnan to start?Can you tell me the last time he had an above average game in the exception of when he comes on as a sub??His workrate is similar to Sheehans at the moment but at least Brian has frees to fall back on.
As for Griffin hes a dead cert to start on Kavanagh as he will roam everywhere like Cussen and that would suit Griffins style of play.
In my opinion the only bone of contention is does Galvin play or not??
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I remember seeing that. Very good.Guisseppeth wrote: »They had a "Goochbusters" one in 2005 as well. Very good.
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Yeah, and they didnt half bust Gooch up that day, between Paschal McConnall, Ryan Mc Maanananaman (however you spell it!
) and Canavan in the dying moments of the match. Still I can't see them doing that on Sunday, with Donaghy there policing! He'll be minding Gooch and Tommy Walsh all day.
As for the Brian Dooher poster, its fairly funny alright but... "Kingdom of Evil"... a bit overboard? 0 -
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So how are those Tyrone and Kerry nerves feeling as the day gets closer? Wish i could be nervous in Sept for a change but hey, theres always next year Well, Ryder Cup might present a few nerves in me i suppose. Anyway, looking forward to this one moreso than any AI Final in the last few years, in fact probably since the last time these 2 met in it! Should be a cracker, fingers crossed. 0
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