I want to be in Boards.ie Potography Book

ThOnda

No, thank you.

Beef wrote: »

Would it be an idea to create a flickr group for people to post their chosen image into? It would be a good way of previewing what we're gonna end up with... Just a thought?

Yes, picture hosting is to be taken into consideration sooner or later.

Beef

No, thank you.

hadn't noticed that Thonda...

leinsterman

No, thank you.

Great idea ... I'm In ...

Ricky91t

I'm just gonna post things as they pop into my head to try and help you with things you might of missed out on!

How are the books getting to people?(A)is it seperate delivery?(book is ordered for each member)(B)Bulk delivery to the organiser and then shipping from his/her house?have you added that to the prices list as 40 or so books at maybe €3-€4 a pop will soon add up

irish147

No, thank you.

ricky91t wrote: »

I'm just gonna post things as they pop into my head to try and help you with things you might of missed out on!

How are the books getting to people?(A)is it seperate delivery?(book is ordered for each member)(B)Bulk delivery to the organiser and then shipping from his/her house?have you added that to the prices list as 40 or so books at maybe €3-€4 a pop will soon add up

I'd like to add a Tennis image

melekalikimaka

No, thank you.

is this the same book calina is doin or wha...cos two books going at once from boards maybe overkill

melekalikimaka

No, thank you.

ricky91t wrote: »

I'm just gonna post things as they pop into my head to try and help you with things you might of missed out on!

How are the books getting to people?(A)is it seperate delivery?(book is ordered for each member)(B)Bulk delivery to the organiser and then shipping from his/her house?have you added that to the prices list as 40 or so books at maybe €3-€4 a pop will soon add up

most places take that into account and you can buy the book from the site like a 'online store' sorta thing

gandalf

No, thank you.

Vexorg has also cleared the use of the name and logos and there are hi res versions available apparently if we want to use them.

City-Exile

No, thank you.

Count me in.

mehfesto2

No, thank you.

Are we buyin the books in bulk of say softbacks/hardbacks, or is the choice of cover up to the buyer?

Sorry if it's already been asked, but it's like a maze trying to find answers in the threads about the book!

Covey

No, thank you.

Buying in bulk.

Cheaper Price + cheaper delivery.

No individual choice of cover, group decision.

ThOnda

No, thank you.

It hasn't been decided. We know that the book will be up to 120 pages.
Next thing is to get as many responses as possible what services were used by Boardsies and which one could be recommended.

After that, we are going to create another poll with questions What company, What size, What type of book.

I was quite intensively thinking about more pictures per page. Well, every page could represent one person and in case of personal page design, we could consider that as a possibility. However I would personally prefer one picture per page. We are creating photography book and not graphic designers presentation. KISS - Keep It Simple and Stupid.

If you have suggestions to other companies that would be able to produce good quality books for reasonable price, please, feel free to post your suggestions to help us with creating above mentioned next poll.

ThOnda

No, thank you.

And yes, the book will be available for further purchases, so as far as I understand, you could be able to order different cover (type) as re-order or new order.

Covey

No, thank you.

ThOnda wrote: »

It hasn't been decided. We know that the book will be up to 120 pages.
Next thing is to get as many responses as possible what services were used by Boardsies and which one could be recommended.

After that, we are going to create another poll with questions What company, What size, What type of book.

I was quite intensively thinking about more pictures per page. Well, every page could represent one person and in case of personal page design, we could consider that as a possibility. However I would personally prefer one picture per page. We are creating photography book and not graphic designers presentation. KISS - Keep It Simple and Stupid.

If you have suggestions to other companies that would be able to produce good quality books for reasonable price, please, feel free to post your suggestions to help us with creating above mentioned next poll.

Appreciate all the organising ThOnda but imo you're making it far too complex and also too big.

Remember 120 pages is 240 Photos (double sided pages), probably too much.
40 Pages = 80 Photos, may be enough, given that people historically drop out of these things.

More than one photo per page and as you say graphic design impacts the equation.

Without re-reading the thread, I thought Blurb was already decided on.

Decide on upload of photos, deadline and then someone(s) to design the book (i.e. which photos go where). Consider any complaints/final suggestions and thats it.

If you give 80 people (or even 10) multiple choices, nothing will ever get resolved.

My 2P.

T.

ThOnda

No, thank you.

Well, I have been corrected that 40 pages means 80 pages with pictures on Blurb. Now, I am corrected back.

If we decide on Blurb, the question stays about dimensions, although 8"x6" was strongly recommended. So the question will be portrait or landscape. I would prefer landscape, however it has to be agreed.

Another question will be softcover or hardback.

I would like to have it as simple as possible, however 105 people have to find consensus on it. That is the reason why I am asking for any suggestions, careful reading of all posted replies and experiences.

Dodgykeeper

No, thank you.

melekalikimaka wrote: »

is this the same book calina is doin or wha...cos two books going at once from boards maybe overkill

Is there another book?

Calina

I'm not actually doing a boards.related book. My queries about books lately were to do with a Calina related project which was set aside.

I am however looking into putting an exhibition together. Fajitas! and I are of the opinion that the book and the exhibition should remain separate and that is how I see things at the moment.

This is just for clarification.

ThOnda

No, thank you.

Well, we have 106 people. It looks that we should get below 120 picture-pages i.e. 60 sheets of paper. Looks good from financial point of view.
Please, keep posting your suggestions, another step (poll) is about to go soon.

PopeBuckfastXVI

No, thank you.

I don't know anything about this crowd, I just found them through google, but they have a square option (I want to submit a portrait photo!)

http://fotoinsight.co.uk/

Size: 19.5 x 19.5cm
No. of pages: 26 to 98 pages

Layouts: More than 100
Colours: Red, blue, black
Backgrounds: more than 40

Basic price for 26 pages(Hard cover): £15.99*
Additional 8 pages : £2.30*

Delivery time: 5 working days

Discount (+50 orders): 15%

plus p&p per order
Postal delivery £3.80

edit:
hmm... actually their 98 pages may be 49 sheets... so may be not what we're looking for...

ThOnda

No, thank you.

Thank you for information. However if you had good experience, that would help quite a lot.

dakar

No, thank you.

I'd like to sneak in under the 120 limit please!

countryjimbo

No, thank you.

coming late to this, I'm in if its not too late!

Woddle

No, thank you.

count me in please

ThOnda

No, thank you.

You know, what to do :-)
We'll make the list after 115 participants. I think that that should leave enough pages for covers, information about the book and other lost space.
However there will be still space left for newcomers, especially if anybody is going to withdraw later during the process.

Hugh_C

No, thank you.

ThOnda wrote: »

Well, I have been corrected that 40 pages means 80 pages with pictures on Blurb. Now, I am corrected back.

If we decide on Blurb, the question stays about dimensions, although 8"x6" was strongly recommended. So the question will be portrait or landscape. I would prefer landscape, however it has to be agreed.

Th0nda, if your read a novel on holidays and someone asks you how long it was, do you say "well, the pages were numbered up to 480 so it was a 240 page book!" or do you say "480 pages" ?




Blurb is no different, an 80 page book has (almost) 80 printable pages.

BTW, the dimensions are 8x10" or 10x8" not 8"x6"

If the uber-mods can organise a sub-forum as requested, perhaps we could simply decide on landscape or portrait by another poll, but only votable on by people who have paid.

hugh

melekalikimaka

No, thank you.

will there be some sort of standard set for this book?

floydmoon1

No, thank you.

I'm in

TelePaul

melekalikimaka wrote: »

will there be some sort of standard set for this book?

Do you mean in quality skippy?

YogiBear

Is there a summary of this thread anyway?
Work's wrecking my head at the moment so can't commit to anything.
Are there going to be books available for peeps that don't submit photos?
Cool idea!

smelltheglove

No, thank you.

Well Yogi I for one would love if you'd submit a photo as I love your style. Sure you have so many posted here already that would be more than good enough it would only be a matter of uploading one, shouldnt take long - go on;)

Hugh_C

No, thank you.

Yogi - your stuff is class

PS yes, you can purchase a book without entering a photo, as I understand it.

melekalikimaka

No, thank you.

TelePaul wrote: »

Do you mean in quality skippy?

yes in photos submitted? i think its madness letting everyone chuck a photo in, maybe put them all in flickr site and people mark them all out of ten and the top 100 go through or something?

PixelTrawler

No, thank you.

Late to this thread, just back from a month away. Id be interested in being involved... (just hit yes there)

PopeBuckfastXVI

No, thank you.

melekalikimaka wrote: »

yes in photos submitted? i think its madness letting everyone chuck a photo in, maybe put them all in flickr site and people mark them all out of ten and the top 100 go through or something?

Isn't that the exact opposite of the spirit of the random photo thread book?

melekalikimaka

No, thank you.

PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »

Isn't that the exact opposite of the spirit of the random photo thread book?

who says it was random???

i'm just saying if every tom dick and harry submits their snaps its gonna become something a little less special or something youd leave on your counter for others to read...IMO

YogiBear

Hugh_C wrote: »

Reply

Hugh, I found that lake (Sallygap area) quite by accident last weekend.. & also by accident the waterfall closeby.. Twas fierce windy though etc etc so didn't take many shots... incredible place though! Nice one! :cool:

Hugh_C

No, thank you.

melekalikimaka wrote: »

i think its madness letting everyone chuck a photo in

That's the whole point! It's a democracy mel - anyone who pays has the right to enter a photo. Why not? Who cares if the picture isn't up to your standard, it may be up to mine. Or their Auntie Mary's. Whomever. Plus the fact that it's gonna cost them a weekend's worth of drinking money may discourage the more flippant ones ...

It'd be like taking away the right to vote from everyone from Foxrock because they're not as smart as other people.




For a lot (most?) of people in here, it would be the first time they've seen themselves in print and that in itself may well act as inspiration to go out and work at their photography.

smelltheglove

No, thank you.

Just kinda thinking out loud here. A few people are saying theme or quality etc etc. Maybe it could be an idea to allow everyone to submit 2 or 3 photos and then a selected person / panel can choose the best or most suitable out of them. Also another option would be to have chapters, one section for sports, landscapes, macro etc.

PopeBuckfastXVI

No, thank you.

melekalikimaka wrote: »

who says it was random???

i'm just saying if every tom dick and harry submits their snaps its gonna become something a little less special or something youd leave on your counter for others to read...IMO

ThOnda wrote: »

Well, no. It is opened Book to all Boards.ie members with respect to some basic rules of the society (as well as Boards.ie). And it is everyone's opportunity to post her/his picture.

helios wrote: »

In an effort to avoid more 'Basic Manners' threads and bring us all back to what we love, who has any interest in a year book? A collection of our own submitted shots, no need for a specific theme, printed and delivered to those who want?

I know this was discussed a few months ago (never getting beyond discussion), but maybe we could enlist the support of dear DeVore for support, and advertsing to the general Boards populus.

No specifics yet, just wondering if anyone is willing to get onboard...

mehfesto2 wrote: »

I think the book is a great idea. I'd definately be on board and willing to help out any way I can.

The calendar might be too brief, I think. I'd imagine that the 12 peope who get their shots chosen would have already been printed elsehere. I think a wee book would benefit the less exprienced and amateur photographers among us who would like to show off their pictures to friends and family. This would be a better example of the boards photography range.

sunny2004 wrote: »

A book would be better in my opinion, the calendar idea is good but to limiting !

In addition it might be an idea to have one page per member. They can either go for one image or multiple images..

Hugh_C wrote: »

Why do we need to vote? If I pay my €25 (say) I want to choose which image to put in. I don't want anyone else deciding. Also, I question the charity angle - if the unit cost is 25 euro, you'd want to be selling it for €40 to make anything worthwhile. How many books would any individual sell? Not many.

My view is that anyone who wants to participate (i) pays up front for their book and (ii) submits one high quality image plus any text other than a credit, which would be there anyway. Guidelines would need to be established for tech specs and a content guide - for instance if I wanted to have an image of dog poo, I'd imagine whoever is on the page opposite wouldn't be too happy. Otherwise the book should self-edit and entries can be positioned by lottery.

Hugh

kateos2 wrote: »

that sounds like a good plan thonda!
i agree that anyone who wants a photo in the book should be able to have one in it, after all it's not every day that an amateur (like myself) gets the chance to have their photo in a book along with other amazing photos!

with the charity thing i think that's a great idea, i don't mind which charity it goes to as long as it's a good cause, maybe another poll suggesting charities would be a good idea?

nilhg wrote: »

This is a great idea and well done to those who have volunteered (or been volunteered) to do all the work.....


I think that Sinead's idea of making a contribution to SSF is great especially as its a boards charity.


Could we call it - Random Photo Thread - Offline Edition

challengemaster wrote: »

There is no theme, barry, that's the point. You get to choose which picture you put it, ie. your favourite or whatever

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh, and I'd agree that we shouldn't have a set theme.This would really limit the number of photographers included and no matter what theme we picked it wouldn't suit everyone.We would be easily down to under 40 photographers.

sineadw wrote: »

whyulittle wrote: »

The Boards.ie Random Photo Thread Book - Mark I

Exactly

thebaz wrote: »

ok forget theme , but for submitting our image , do we just submit the best image we think we have put up here on boards , or are there any other considerations , to take into account ?

kjt wrote: »

Your best shot really no conditions that I know of.

:pac:

sunny2004

No, thank you.

Count me in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

djd80

No, thank you.

I'm in too but hope I can find or take a good enough pic....

l pearse

No, thank you.

• Decrease heart rate
• Decrease blood pressure
• Decrease metabolism
• Decrease muscle pain
• Increase circulation
• Take the God'dame picture!!!
• Upload and print.

melekalikimaka

No, thank you.

Hugh_C wrote: »

That's the whole point! It's a democracy mel - anyone who pays has the right to enter a photo. Why not? Who cares if the picture isn't up to your standard, it may be up to mine. Or their Auntie Mary's. Whomever. Plus the fact that it's gonna cost them a weekend's worth of drinking money may discourage the more flippant ones ...

a democracy bases decisions on a voting system where majority wins, its not a free for all like here.

Hugh_C wrote: »

It'd be like taking away the right to vote from everyone from Foxrock because they're not as smart as other people.

em not really ( tho don't get me started on my opinions on letting idiots vote, idiots voting = no lisbon treaty), everyone submits their photos, 'democratically as you put it, and it is then put in a pool, where there is say a limit of 80 that go through, 3 weeks voting... winners go through, losers don't... to be honest you can't really get more democratic

Hugh_C wrote: »

For a lot (most?) of people in here, it would be the first time they've seen themselves in print and that in itself may well act as inspiration to go out and work at their photography.

ok thats fair enough i suppose, but ya not think too many photos in the book is gonna ruin it?

melekalikimaka

No, thank you.

PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »

:pac:

touche

i merely wanted to suggest a more formalised format

cooligPhoto

No, thank you.

Just revisited this thread.

If ye're talking about putting a limit on the number of contributors to the book then why not have two books?

I'd certainly be happy to be in one of the books (don't care which) and would most likely buy a copy of each.

As for picking my best photo - I passed around my portfolio and asked friends to pick their favourite. I have two ready to go - one landscape and one portrait (kills that argument).

I've already been published and sold prints - I certainly wouldn't want to take away the chance of other people being able to tell their friends "I've a photo in that book". It's very satisfying (especially the first time).

PJW

Would anyone from the Boards photography Forum want to be in a Boards.ie Karate competition or for that matter anyone from anyother forum on here like to contribute to one, anyone? No?

The problem with photography is that anyone can pick up a camera and take a photo, I for one would not be interested in buying an album full of basic/average P&S snaps and thats what will happen here if its open to the masses, it just wont have any appeal factor for anyone other than the person whos photo is printed in it and forget about the charity aspect too. Ok the yearbook is not a competition but you get the jist of what I'm trying to say.

There has to be limits to the number of photos and the photos themselves will have to be selected by a panel or whatever. This yearbook should include the best of the photos that have been posted on here over the years and selected by the regs of this forum.

Ponster

No, thank you.

PJW, are you suggesting a panal of people that will choose the photos. Each member here uploads a photo to a flickr site where it gets judged. If OK then they know they're going to be choosen and then forward on the €. If their photo isn't up to a certain 'standard' then they try again until they get it right or until there are no more slots available?

I agree that there has to be a certain quality but also feel it unfair to exclude someone who's willing to part company with their cash for a good cause. I'd just be afraid for this to end with only 30 great photos and 80-odd disappointed people.

BTW, I was #115 to reply to the poll I think. Does that make me in or out?

CabanSail

No, thank you.

"If" there is to be a selection then it would be very hard for anyone who is active on this forum to do it, especially if they are contributing an image themselves.

I can see two ways to proceed.

1/ It continues as it was & gets limited by numbers alone. Each person has one page/image. Then there will be a mix of experienced & newbies. It would be representitive of the crowd on here. The quality may be a bit mixed but there will variety & it would suit a wide audience.

2/ There is a selection process where only the images deemed to be above a certain quality get selected. If we were to do it this way it would be best to have it done by an independant person. I may well be able to find someone who has an FIPF or an AIPF to do this for us.

melekalikimaka

No, thank you.

CabanSail wrote: »

The quality may be a bit mixed but there will variety & it would suit a wide audience.

how does a mix of good photos and crap ones suit a wider audience than a book of good images? if anything it would cater to a smaller audience.

not saying anyones shots are crap, i love the random photo thread and find it excellent to browse... but its another thing paying to see some of the images

Hugh_C

No, thank you.

melekalikimaka wrote: »

a democracy bases decisions on a voting system where majority wins, its not a free for all like here.

point of information:

democracy |diˈmäkrəsē|
noun ( pl. -cies)
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives

OK Mel, off you go, you set up the system. Take ownership of it. But I suspect you haven't thought it through:

melekalikimaka wrote: »

everyone submits their photos and it is then put in a pool, where there is say a limit of 80 that go through, 3 weeks voting... winners go through, losers don't

How many votes does an individual have? Who can vote? What if there is a tie? What if there are fewer pictures voted on than there are spaces available? What happens if people who have voted don't pay, is your election null and void?

The more I read this thread, the less inclined I am to get involved because I perceive any moderation of the photos as an affront to the people who want to be seen in print. Your rhetoric (winners, losers) smacks of elitism and I don't want any part of that for a project like this.

It's all academic though, until someone takes ownership of being the Treasurer (I'll be away till the end of September) and payment comes in, NOBODY can predict how may people will actually pony up and remain involved.

Hugh