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Your 3 *MUST PLAY* before you die games !
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You sure its not a case of a great game becoming so popular that it becomes fashionable to bash it?
Nah, it's just because it really is rubbish.
OoT looks good but the can't imagine the story being very mature for some reason. Im completely wrong Im sure.
The plot is very Nintendo like, ie travel about solving puzzles, killing monsters (but no blood of course), defeat mini-bosses, defeat main boss and save the princess. It doesn't even pretend to be original, plot wise, but it's the gameplay that makes it stand out. It's a hell of a lot of fun, and incredibly well thought out. The puzzles are incredibly obvious, but some still had me banging my head against the wall before I could figure them out.0 -
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Don't bash FF7 please. Its still the best FF ever made. Not 6 Retro. Let's not get too snobby here but FF7 deals with alot more than destroying the planet (which BTW is even more relevant nowadays), it deals with shattered ambitions, sacrifice an revenge.
It does deal with those themes but in a hackneyed and immature way with an antagonist who is shallow and probably designed by a focus group. Lots of other games deal with those themes but in a far better and less hackneyed way. It's probably harder to find a game that doesn't deal with revenge, shattered ambitions and sacrifice.
My problem wih FFVII, which I think isn't a bad game, is that there are so many RPGs out there that do it all and do everything so much better. Thats why if i was to choose 3 games that everyone should play i'd choose the best RPG. Frankly choosing FFVII with all it's flaws, it's simplicity, it's lack of maturity and how dated it has become over true masterpieces like FFX, FFVI, FF Tactics, Suikoden 2, Grandia, FFIX, Valkyrie Profile, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Panzer Dragoon Saga etc., well it's a sin.
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Hmmm, good thread - a worthy distraction from that thing called work!
My three for thee would be
Super Mario 64 - just about pipped Super Mario 3 for me. I'll never forget the feeling I had seeing marios 3d head appear on the title screen.
Super mario kart - to me, nothing has beat this for multiplayer action. At least when I had friends anyway
Resident Evil 1 - the first game to make me scream. The dogs jumping though the window, the cutscene where you meet the first hunter, barrys quotes, all chilling stuff!
Honourable mentions:
Gunstar heroes
Sonic 2
Super mario 3
bomberman
Final fantasy X (because i never played 7)
Shadow of the collosus (because ICO is gathering dust, unplayed
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Operation Flashpoint
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I believe everyone should die before they play Football Manager games.
My 3 would be:
C&C (I class every C&C game as one btw)
Just one of those classic games that everyone should play in their life great cut scenes, great gameplay and fantastic multiplayer.
Battlefield Vietnam
Excellent fps/team play multiplayer, nothing like raining down missiles from your Huey while playing Ride of the Valkyries.
Call of Duty 4
Probably one of the best SP/MP games combined, replayed the SP so many times now, if you have an machine capable of playing this get it! 0 -
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Ret0, saw this old post of yours which I thought was pretty funny
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3495902&postcount=3
you've changed man :pac:
Yep a good 5+ years of extra maturity and a replay of said game that blew the rose tinted glasses off me and I changed my mind. Best game ever when I was 15 not so at 25 after a lot more experience.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »
Yep a good 5+ years of extra maturity and a replay of said game that blew the rose tinted glasses off me and I changed my mind. Best game ever when I was 15 not so at 25 after a lot more experience.
I know we always argue about this but basically you are saying that you replayed FF7 in the last 3 years and decided it wasn't as good as you thought. Any RPG loses its appeal after you keep replaying it. You should remember how good things are the first or second time you play them. That said, I agree with your post on FF8. I thought it was excellent until Disc 3 started cos it was nice and simple up until then SeeD VS Seifier/Galbadia/Edea.
It just seems weird that you feel your 2008 view is the right one, whereas you are saying you were biased in 2005. I mean surely one opinion is as good as the other? I hope Im making sense.
Tactics is something I may get if I manage to find employment in the next few weeks.
Oh and poster above. MGS3 has the best story for me. Nice and condensed with less silly life meanings or vague/universal plot focus. I think you're right.0 -
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I know we always argue about this but basically you are saying that you replayed FF7 in the last 3 years and decided it wasn't as good as you thought. Any RPG loses its appeal after you keep replaying it. You should remember how good things are the first or second time you play them. That said, I agree with your post on FF8. I thought it was excellent until Disc 3 started cos it was nice and simple up until then SeeD VS Seifier/Galbadia/Edea.
It just seems weird that you feel your 2008 view is the right one, whereas you are saying you were biased in 2005. I mean surely one opinion is as good as the other? I hope Im making sense.
Well in 2005 I hadn't played FFVII in about 6 years. I also had only just played FFVI. Memory of FFVII was that it was an amazing game that nothng before it could compare to. When I replayed it again I realised that it was only nostalgia making me think this way and that FFX and FFVI amongst others were far superior games. In the years between my replay of FFVII I'd gotten a job so was able to afford as many games as I wanted and discovered emulation so I could enjoy all the classics I missed out on.
I would definitely say that my opinion now is far more valid. I've played far more games past and present. Also at the time I first played it I was a young impressionable idiot. I used to defend FFVII and even claim that it's story was as good as anything literature or cinema could come up with which is totally wrong, it's as good as an average generic anime at best. That bit halfway through affected a lot of people but only because they hadn't experienced something like that before. However older more obscure games did the same thing only handled it better, for example Chrono Trigger and Phantasy Star II. My last replay just showed how powerful nostalgia can be.
An example of the power of nostalgia is Goldeneye on the N64. People say that it's the greatest FPS ever and at the time it might just have been. However play it now. It's an unplayable mess of a game with a horrendous framerate. Something like Doom 2 and Half-life are the exact opposite, still as brilliant as they always were.
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