Georgia vs Ireland

leninbenjamin

Tom65 wrote: »

What no Andy Reid? I haven't been keeping up with this much - is he injured?

no, Trappa sees Reid as the more traditional Italian number 10, he doesn't like playing that type of player in the centre of the park.

Dolph Starbeam

I have to say i liked Trapa taking the job but keeping Keane as captain and Whealan in mid is a joke.

Whealan can't even make the Stoke team and Dunne or Given deserve that arm-band more than anyone else. Plus Andy Reis is one of our most talented players (excluding the s*****g Steven Ireland) and he can't make the team for some misterious reason

If we don't beat Georgia we might as well not think about getting to Sour' Africa.

Big Ears

corban wrote: »

i'm gonna stick my neck out and predict that trap will take us to south africa, for the world cup.....

Will the team be going too ?

CHD

I beleive in the Trap attack

MementoMori

No-one seems to be taking into account the fact that the Georgians will be legitmately playing for the pride of their country. For a small country I can see them going all guns blazing to get a result. How many of the Irish team can you say will be in the same situation?

Given the current geo-political situation I'll be well pleased if we scrap a draw.

noodler

Would you, really? Well then you lack serious ambition my friend.

Mr.Nice Guy

The ticket situation is interesting. From the BBC...

The Georgians will not have the advantage of playing in their own capital city of Tbilisi after FIFA ordered them to stage the game at a neutral venue.

Irish fans been allocated almost twice as many tickets as their opponents at the Bruchweg Stadium.

I can't see the Georgians having a lot of morale either in light of recent political events. I think this is a golden opportunity for us to notch up a solid away victory.

Karmafaerie

This game revolves around one thing for me.

Steven Reid.

He's the most important player we have right now.

prendy

MOG7 wrote: »

I have to say i liked Trapa taking the job but keeping Keane as captain and Whealan in mid is a joke.

Whealan can't even make the Stoke team and Dunne or Given deserve that arm-band more than anyone else. Plus Andy Reis is one of our most talented players (excluding the s*****g Steven Ireland) and he can't make the team for some misterious reason

If we don't beat Georgia we might as well not think about getting to Sour' Africa.

Typical Oirish attitude, Trap has come in and is trying different things. Wait to judge until after the game. I'm sure he has more knowledge of the game than you me or anyone on here will ever have.

Support FTW


Come on Ireland.

BaZmO*

MementoMori wrote: »

Given the current geo-political situation I'll be well pleased if we scrap a draw.

I'll be quite disappointed if we only manage a draw, obviously not as disappointed if we lose but still, we should be aiming to win these types of games especially if we are looking to qualify.
Plus we really need to be racking up the points as second place isn't even a guarantee of a play off place.

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If Ireland don't beat Georgia tomorrow, they can forget about qualification.

End. Of.

herbieflowers

not necessarily, just means that results against the bigger sides become absolutely necessary.

Dolph Starbeam

Des wrote: »

If Ireland don't beat Georgia tomorrow, they can forget about qualification.

End. Of.

+1

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herbieflowers wrote: »

not necessarily, just means that results against the bigger sides become absolutely necessary.

And Ireland, at very best, will garner one point from Italy. Possibly three from Bulgaria, but I doubt it.

leninbenjamin

Des wrote: »

If Ireland don't beat Georgia tomorrow, they can forget about qualification.

End. Of.

agreed, we've got to get off to a good start if we are to have any hope.

herbie we haven't the cutting edge in our team to be able to take it to the bigger teams, it would be dangerous to go to them needing a win.

herbieflowers

Des wrote: »

And Ireland, at very best, will garner one point from Italy. Possibly three from Bulgaria, but I doubt it.

you never know, some horrible virus might sweep through the Italy camp a day before the game...

leninbenjamin

herbieflowers wrote: »

you never know, some horrible virus might sweep through the Italy camp a day before the game...

sounds like a plan.

:pac:

Pigman II

herbieflowers wrote: »

you never know, some horrible virus might sweep through the Italy camp a day before the game...

You're right. Totti could pay the squad a visit

herbieflowers

bing!

noodler

Hah, I agree I'd hate to be in a situation where we HAVE to beat Italy away or something. Lets just worry about tomorrow. I think we have left our most important player on the bench to be honest.

Italy and Bulgaria are more than capable of dropping points in Georgia/Montenagro as well. Makes getting the win in Germany even more vital.

SantryRed

Karmafaerie wrote: »

This game revolves around one thing for me.

Steven Reid.

He's the most important player we have right now.

Everything rests on him. End of.

Probably win 1nil tomorrow.. Keane or Doyle to score late on.

Bard

Is this match being shown on any station other than five UK? Any channel that can be picked up here in Ireland (incl. on Sky)?

Setanta apparently dropped it after the change of venue. I may have a pub full of disappointed punters if five UK are the only channel showing it...

noodler

I thought it was on RTE? They have it on their schedule tomorrow don't they?

http://www.rteguide.ie/listings.html?date=1&channel=132

Myxomatosis

Yeah it's on RTE, so is next Wednesday's game away to Montenegro. I was under the impression that Setanta had gotten exclusive rights to the away qualifiers but it doesn't seem that way. Maybe that will change in the new year but here's hoping it doesn't.

noodler

Seems to be serious confusion about this alright. Irish games should be on RTE for the rest of time. Should be in the constitution.

SantryRed

It's a European rule I think. I know it's a rule somewhere that competitive games must be on terrestrial television.

eirebhoy

Des wrote: »

If Ireland don't beat Georgia tomorrow, they can forget about qualification.

End. Of.

Des wrote: »

And Ireland, at very best, will garner one point from Italy. Possibly three from Bulgaria, but I doubt it.

I'm judging them mainly by the clubs the players play for and what I've read but take Berbatov and Petrov out of the Bulgaria team and it looks very weak. Certainly weaker than the Georgian team. Put them back in and there's probably not much between the 2 sides, on paper.

The Georgian's are very confident in their players judging by their fans forum. Not so confident in the team as a whole with Cuper just taking over.

Anyway, the first 2 games will give us an idea of the standard of each team.

I very much doubt Bulgaria will be getting anywhere near maximum points off the bottom 3 seeds though.

dceire

I'm working tomorrow during the match and cant watch it unfortunately. Dose anyone know if it will be broadcast live on radio? Radio 1 or Newstalk maybe?

Big Ears

noodler wrote: »

Seems to be serious confusion about this alright. Irish games should be on RTE for the rest of time. Should be in the constitution.

Whatever about it having to be on terrestrial tv, how is having it automatically on RTÉ isn't going to help the game in this country. The FAI would then miss out millions in tv righs, grass roots would thus receive less funding and there would probably be no coverage of the national league on RTÉ.

Football would suffer.

tetsujin1979

SantryRed wrote: »

It's a European rule I think. I know it's a rule somewhere that competitive games must be on terrestrial television.

No it's not, England's game is not on terrestrial tv at all.
Each country has a list of events in the public interest, including sports, that cannot be sold exclusively to satellite tv, they have to be on terrestrial TV. Ireland's list includes all competitive soccer games, the GAA finals, the Grand National among others

Mr.Nice Guy

tetsujin1979 wrote: »

No it's not, England's game is not on terrestrial tv at all.

And the English might not even get to watch highlights after a row with Setanta...

The population of Andorra is 71,000 and it will be touch and go if that figure eclipses the number of television viewers for England's World Cup qualifier.

Not only is the match expected to be a walkover for Fabio Capello's millionaires against a team of part-timers, but fans will only be able to see it on pay TV operator Setanta.

Barring a last-minute deal with BBC or ITV, there will not even be highlights available on free-to-air channels so there is a real danger of it being one of the least watched England games of modern times.

Setanta say the terrestrial channels did not offer the right commercial terms to buy the highlights, while sources at BBC and ITV have suggested the Irish broadcaster's asking price was unrealistic.

Whatever happens, for those not travelling to Barcelona, the only live coverage will be limited to Setanta's 3.2 million subscribers as it will be for all England's away games during the qualifying campaign.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1052741/England-stars-enjoy-moment-spotlight.html

herbieflowers

they're probably better off tbh, remember the last time they played Andorra away? Hehe

SantryRed

I always though there was some link between ITV and Setanta?

Or maybe it's just the boxing?

noodler

Big Ears wrote: »

Whatever about it having to be on terrestrial tv, how is having it automatically on RTÉ isn't going to help the game in this country. The FAI would then miss out millions in tv righs, grass roots would thus receive less funding and there would probably be no coverage of the national league on RTÉ.

Football would suffer.

Meh. Its like 5 or 6 games a year. This is something for us fans. TV3's coverage is crap and unlucky (5-2 anyone).

Anyway I assume RTE do bid the most every year since they have it and therefore the FAI are getting ther most money they can from terrestrail broadcasters.

Big Ears

noodler wrote: »

Meh. Its like 5 or 6 games a year. This is something for us fans. TV3's coverage is crap and unlucky (5-2 anyone).

Anyway I assume RTE do bid the most every year since they have it and therefore the FAI are getting ther most money they can from terrestrail broadcasters.

Would the 'fans' subsidise the millions lost if RTÉ automatically got the rights ?
TV3's coverage is terrible but if they outbid RTÉ then it's better for football in this country that they get the games.

RTÉ usually do bid the most but we can't just give them the games at the detriment of Irish football just so people could watch with their preferred panellists and commentators. Which is what some people have suggested before.

noodler

No and why should they? Ordinary fans put enough money into football. Personally I'd say let them make the cash up some other way, something good should be done for fans. Bit of an academic debate considering RTE do outbid TV3 (otherwsie they wouldn't have it). Also RTE have our licence fee whilst TV3 do not-its not somethign thats likely to change in the near future.

Big Ears

noodler wrote: »

No and why should they?

For the benefit of the game in this country. Then again most people in this country don't care about the structures in place to develop players only that they get to see Dunphy, Giles and Brady argue over the Senior International side every few months.

They'll bitch and moan when the International team is doing poorly though and some will even rejoice in the failures of the LOI.

noodler

Look , I wouldn't blame the fans for any of the Irish team's shortcomings. I seewhere you are coming from and I am just saying, considering the comparative quality of RTE's coverage, that having the games on RTE (they'd still have to pay of course) is a small way of paying back the fans.

Its just thinking out loud, in reality the game in Ireland benefits from a bidding war between TV3 and RTE, Im happy as long as RTE continue to win out.

delija_sever029

Ah i am too tired to read this thread from the beggining so i will just say i expect 0-1 for Ireland tommorow

newballsplease

3-0 to Ireland tomorrow.

Keane 34'
doyle 43'
hunt 68'


you heard it hear first!!!

Denis Irwin

2-1 Ireland with Zizu Kilbane to score one of Ireland's goals

newballsplease

Denis Irwin wrote: »

2-1 Ireland with Zizu Kilbane to score one of Ireland's goals

surely not with his head tho?! ouch

vincenzo1975

I expect a win tomorrow, hopefully with a couple of goals to spare, but its important that we have no first team injuries.

Does anyone know if a yellow card will knock any of the team out of the montenegro game?

Denis Irwin

vincenzo1975 wrote: »

Does anyone know if a yellow card will knock any of the team out of the montenegro game?

Nope they all start with a clean slate tomorrow.

Dub13

Is this game on the Radio...?I will be in the car for most of it.

Dolph Starbeam

newballsplease wrote: »

surely not with his head tho?! ouch

And did you hear he fractured his cheekbone to?

madds

The "Trap factor" to inject an extra bit of confidence and solidity in the team and we win 2-1. Robbie Keane needs to show up today.

newballsplease

newballsplease wrote: »

3-0 to Ireland tomorrow.

Keane 34'
doyle 43'
hunt 68'


you heard it hear first!!!

As likely as Kilbane to score a hat trick against Brazil :rolleyes:

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Dub13 wrote: »

Is this game on the Radio...?I will be in the car for most of it.

LW 252 most probably, that's where RTE broadcast their football coverage now.

They are gone off the MW band totally.

Or they might have it on RTE R1 FM, but I really can't see it.

eirebhoy

We're relying heavily on the 2 strikers to score. I can't see Hunt coming inside and taking too many shots on goal. McGeady might but he's not a great goalscorer. The 2 midfielders will be playing too deep. With Duff out Keane will probably play deeper than usual. I fancy Doyle to get the first goal if we do get one.