Good first car?

duffhead1010 · 10-09-2008 2:38pm

So I guess that's settled it, I won't be gettin' a rwd for a few years. Can people still suggest a good 1st drift car? The Bmws are pretty cool but I still want to know if there's better one's to be had.
Thanks so far.:D

Dolph Starbeam · 10-09-2008 2:50pm

Nearly any rwd nissan would be a good choice, butagain what is your budget?

duffhead1010 · 10-09-2008 2:52pm

4000 euro.

Dolph Starbeam · 10-09-2008 3:08pm

is insurance included in that?

duffhead1010 · 10-09-2008 3:09pm

God no

Vain · 10-09-2008 3:10pm

How about if you buy a good first car something 1.4, 1.3 and then keep on to a few bob and if you have any big enough yard or a friend has one you could buy a cheap rwd car like a omega or sierra and practice your drifting there, At least that way you wont kill yourself or someone else trying to drift on a main road.

My friend has a yard and he bought a omega its a mv6 3.5L ex English cop car:D and we go out there the odd time and do a bit of drifting and its a laugh and its more importantly safe and not putting anyone else at risk of injury.

duffhead1010 · 10-09-2008 3:12pm

Yeah, the rwd won't be my first car, and I'll be able to improve on that number by then. I check out those cars. thanks

colm_mcm · 10-09-2008 8:52pm

duffhead1010 wrote: »

I won't be gettin' a rwd for a few years. Can people still suggest a good 1st drift car?

Do you actually know what drifting is?

duffhead1010 · 11-09-2008 12:40am

colm_mcm wrote: »

Do you actually know what drifting is?

Yes, It's gearing down into a bend so your rear wheels can slide, helping you get out of turn quicker.
Did you think I meant I was getting a fwd for drifting? I didn't, I meant I was going to get a rwd car eventually.

challengemaster · 11-09-2008 1:02am

Well that answers that one.

Lol. Please actually try that. Downshift into a bend.. you'll be in a ditch faster than you realise. If it was as easy as getting a RWD car and downshifting into a corner, everyone would be at it professionally.

Do you just expect once you downshift that the cars weight will automatically go, or are you waiting for the drift fairies to do that one for you? Sorry bud, but you'll have to actually cause the back to kick out. I suggest you look up drifting techniques.

Pulling the E-brake is the most common and probably easiest drift technique to get right starting off, as its where everyone starts. The only other really beginner technique there (which i'd suggest for after you've gotten the hang of E-brake drifting) would be powersliding. Seriously, I'd reccomend doing a drift course with somebody, maybe prodrift? Please do some sort of reading up before you attempt drifting. You will probably kill yourself otherwise...

miss enzo · 11-09-2008 4:35pm

challengemaster wrote: »

Seriously, I'd reccomend doing a drift course with somebody, maybe prodrift? Please do some sort of reading up before you attempt drifting. You will probably kill yourself otherwise...

agreed!!!

duffhead1010 · 11-09-2008 6:00pm

I explain myself wrong once again!
I know you have to brake and make the car slide.
Right here goes again,
You downshift into a turn, pulling the break or the handbreak ( It varies from person to person) , cause the car to slide and turn the bend, then bring the rear of the car back to where it was before.
Do people not have any faith in anybody on this forum?

Anyway thanks for those beginner drifts.

colm_mcm · 11-09-2008 9:15pm

No offence duffhead1010, just the thoughts of a learner driver coming sideways towards me on a bend scares me.

As suggested, maybe get some lessons and see if this is for you.

duffhead1010 · 11-09-2008 10:06pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

No offence duffhead1010, just the thoughts of a learner driver coming sideways towards me on a bend scares me.

As suggested, maybe get some lessons and see if this is for you.

Be very afraid! lol
Maybe.

JimmyCrackCorn! · 12-09-2008 12:01pm

duffhead1010 wrote: »

I explain myself wrong once again!
I know you have to brake and make the car slide.
Right here goes again,
You downshift into a turn, pulling the break or the handbreak ( It varies from person to person) , cause the car to slide and turn the bend, then bring the rear of the car back to where it was before.
Do people not have any faith in anybody on this forum?

Anyway thanks for those beginner drifts.

Its your supreme confidence in yourself that worries me.

Take it from me i was 25 before i drove anything with poke and rwd. I had killed 3 cars with mileage(since 18) and the car scared me so much on the first day that i thought very seriously about selling it.

If you do splash out and pay the massive money for a twin cam and the massive insurance i hope you have a very level head or on a wet day youll just be that tiny bit two eager on the throttle leaving a roundabout and you better know what to do. It only takes a fraction of a second or the tinyes misjudgemnt of how smooth the tar is.

It happend to me on a number of occasions and i knew how to recover the car without overcomposating.

These cars do not tolerate fools and catch very experience drivers out all the time fact.

Dolph Starbeam · 12-09-2008 1:15pm

duffhead1010 wrote: »

Do people not have any faith in anybody on this forum?

Ye i do, but not when someone wants to buy a car for drifting as there first car. As said to you already go get some real lessons on drifting, its not as simple as you make it sound as as Colm says none of us want to meet a young lad coming towards us sideways learning to drift, when he doesn't even know how to drive:rolleyes:

SV · 12-09-2008 2:00pm

Lads..in fairness I think we know what type of person duffhead is.

And they're not going to care how much advice is given..they want to drive a drift car laaaad.. :rolleyes:

good luck with your driving life..cos god knows you're gonna need it.

as for your questions btw, Yes I have drove many RWD cars, I have lost control of many, I have never owned one and don't plan on owning one for many years. They are raw machines and as said..they do not tolerate fools.

duffhead1010 · 12-09-2008 10:22pm

JimmyCrackCorn! wrote: »

Its your supreme confidence in yourself that worries me.

Take it from me i was 25 before i drove anything with poke and rwd. I had killed 3 cars with mileage(since 18) and the car scared me so much on the first day that i thought very seriously about selling it.

If you do splash out and pay the massive money for a twin cam and the massive insurance i hope you have a very level head or on a wet day youll just be that tiny bit two eager on the throttle leaving a roundabout and you better know what to do. It only takes a fraction of a second or the tinyes misjudgemnt of how smooth the tar is.

It happend to me on a number of occasions and i knew how to recover the car without overcomposating.

These cars do not tolerate fools and catch very experience drivers out all the time fact.

Yeah, but then again I'm not gonna buy one for a long while yet, and I doubt I'll buy a Twin Cam, but I think I have the cop-on not to boy-race with it. Do you mind me askin' which car you got?

duffhead1010 · 12-09-2008 10:29pm

ClioV6 wrote: »

Lads..in fairness I think we know what type of person duffhead is.

And they're not going to care how much advice is given..they want to drive a drift car laaaad.. :rolleyes:

good luck with your driving life..cos god knows you're gonna need it.

as for your questions btw, Yes I have drove many RWD cars, I have lost control of many, I have never owned one and don't plan on owning one for many years. They are raw machines and as said..they do not tolerate fools.

Really I've learned alot from these posts and i now know not get a rwd til i've got alot more experience.
Sorry if I was over-confident, but I didn't cop-on straight away. Thanks

Dolph Starbeam · 13-09-2008 3:41am

Mate its good to know you or hope you do have the cop on not to go for a rwd car as a 1st car, learn how to drive for a good few years efore you hop into a rwd car. I have a n/a mr2 myself, great handling car in the dry and even wet but if i abuse it at all it kicks, screams and bites me in the ass. Its not fun!

We're only giving friendly advice, A nice little Sir Civic or something would be perfect, lovely car. Rwd jdm car isn't the best thing in the world. Maybe a Toyota Levin could be your 2nd car. Keep the drifting to the track or go to Tokyo:)

duffhead1010 · 13-09-2008 1:07pm

To Tokyo then!:pac:
I've nearly made up my mind on which car to buy, I've narrowed it down to 3, a mazda 323f, a mazda mx-3 or a mitsubishi lancer. They're all pretty cheap (under 2 grand). The engine sizes are 1.5, 1.5 and 1.3 respectively.
Anyone know which'd be best?

Dolph Starbeam · 13-09-2008 3:11pm

Out of those i'd say the Lancer, i would go for someting more reliable like a Corolla or Starlet, they'll go forever without giving any trouble.

ExoduS 18.11 · 15-09-2008 1:00am

i'd agree, mitsubishi lancer is a nice car. reliable, great first car.

ottostreet · 19-09-2008 1:48pm

Mitsubishi Mirage coupes!

i have one. great car.

get a manuel one! engine sizes are: 1.3, 1.5 & 1.6 mivec. get a 1.3 manual one. about the same performance as a 1.4 civic.

SV · 19-09-2008 10:34pm

ottostreet wrote: »

Mitsubishi Mirage coupes!

i have one. great car.

get a manuel one! engine sizes are: 1.3, 1.5 & 1.6 mivec. get a 1.3 manual one. about the same performance as a 1.4 civic.

Great car?

lol..come on!

EDITED: and you have no basis for thinking the mirage would be as quick apart from thinking that the manual would be far far quicker than the automatic ..which...it probably isn't..and the engine doesn't have 90 odd horse power either! that's the 1.5 engine!

colm_mcm · 19-09-2008 11:05pm

ClioV6 wrote: »

Great car?

lol..come on!

Yeah, all the looks of an Asti Mivec, and the performance of a 1.4 Civic.

Rush out and buy one! (automatic if possible)

Good first car?

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