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M20 - Cork to Limerick [preferred route chosen; in design - phase 3]

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    #2582
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,413 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Massive multi vehicle crash at the northern end of the Croom bypass, traffic is backed up southbound as far as the M20 junction.

    I myself came upon a crash on Wednesday just south of Banogue.

    What will it take to get this sorted?


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    #2583
    boardsuser1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    marno21 wrote: »
    Massive multi vehicle crash at the northern end of the Croom bypass, traffic is backed up southbound as far as the M20 junction.

    I myself came upon a crash on Wednesday just south of Banogue.

    What will it take to get this sorted?

    The death of a government minister probably.


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    #2584
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    KC161 wrote: »
    The death of a government minister probably.

    Do we get to pick which one ? 😂


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    #2585
    boardsuser1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    D Trent wrote: »
    Do we get to pick which one ? 😂

    Anyone for a raffle to decide? :pac:


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    #2586
    Copper_pipe
    Registered Users Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Any excuse to post this :D:D


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wedymc7ll1Y


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    #2587
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users Posts: 5,742 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Cities in other people's countries don't count.
    marno21 wrote: »
    Belfast is a city in another country

    If you want to make some sort of point about different road budgets fine, but coat trailing language is inappropriate for moderators.


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    #2588
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,177 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Good god this does not matter, we are quite clearly talking about the republic! Why does it need pages of clarification?


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    #2589
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    https://m.facebook.com/limerickfire/photos/a.121955401150598.20281.113798148632990/1360133753999417/?type=3&source=48


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    #2590
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,413 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    If you want to make some sort of point about different road budgets fine, but coat trailing language is inappropriate for moderators.
    This is not coat trailing language. The A1/M1 are in a different jurisdiction, the Republic, and the TII have no control over them. That is a fact, there is no disputing it.


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    #2591
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Mod: Can we return to talking about the Cork Limerick motorway M20.

    Thank you.


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    #2592
    Missyelliot2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Missyelliot2


    D Trent wrote: »
    https://m.facebook.com/limerickfire/photos/a.121955401150598.20281.113798148632990/1360133753999417/?type=3&source=48

    That looks horrific!


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    #2593
    Shurwhynot
    Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Shurwhynot


    Is anyone commuting on this daily? This is likely to become a reality for myself in the not too distant future. I drove it for the first time in a while yesterday - at least the roadworks at Buttevant and outside Mallow seem to be finished


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    #2594
    Copper_pipe
    Registered Users Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Shurwhynot wrote: »
    Is anyone commuting on this daily? This is likely to become a reality for myself in the not too distant future. I drove it for the first time in a while yesterday - at least the roadworks at Buttevant and outside Mallow seem to be finished


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/buttevant-gets-set-to-party-as-roadworks-finally-end-428235.html


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    #2595
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    It's actually uncanny that they are throwing a party for it!


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    #2596
    AugustusMinimus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭AugustusMinimus


    The Government saw the New Coke plot and thought they'd have some of that with the Buttevant roadworks.


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    #2597
    Calina
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Mc Love wrote: »
    It's actually uncanny that they are throwing a party for it!

    I think if you had to live with it, plus the pre-roadworks, as long as the people of Buttevant have had to, you'd probably want one hell of a party that it's all over.

    if they could just bypass the place and CHarleville, there'd be a week long celebration.


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    #2598
    Baldilocks
    Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭Baldilocks


    doubtless they'll close the road for the party!!


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    #2599
    JamesBond2010
    Registered Users Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Baldilocks wrote: »
    doubtless they'll close the road for the party!!
    It will be a drive thru Party :D:D:D. people will hand u in food while ur passing LOL LOL


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    #2600
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Mc Love wrote: »
    It's actually uncanny that they are throwing a party for it!

    Which party are they throwing - FF or FG?


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    #2601
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Probably FF


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    #2602
    marno21
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    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/222847/ff-leader-in-warning-over-progress-of-m20.html#.WCDEP0_zRO4.facebook

    Martin emphasising the importance of the M20. Seeing as he'll probably be Taoiseach soon, I hope he puts his money where his mouth is.


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    #2603
    mikeym
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    Copper_pipe wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/buttevant-gets-set-to-party-as-roadworks-finally-end-428235.html

    The local business's have suffered so they probably they want the community to do business in Buttevant.


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    #2604
    Idbatterim
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    Martin emphasising the importance of the M20. Seeing as he'll probably be Taoiseach soon, I hope he puts his money where his mouth is.
    Mickey martin might do well to remember, it was his government that decided to annihilate the capital budget...

    also this "counterweight" to dublin, spare me, you could put cork, limerick, belfast and galway together and I reckon I am right in saying, they still wouldnt be the size of dublin.

    If he feels cork - limerick needs the m20. What is his opinion on Dublins need for DU and MN?


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    #2605
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Mickey martin might do well to remember, it was his government that decided to annihilate the capital budget...

    also this "counterweight" to dublin, spare me, you could put cork, limerick, belfast and galway together and I reckon I am right in saying, they still wouldnt be the size of dublin.

    If he feels cork - limerick needs the m20. What is his opinion on Dublins need for DU and MN?

    Must be because he actually had to travel the road to go to the recent Munster match and found it unbearable!


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    #2606
    zulutango
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭zulutango


    Idbatterim wrote: »

    also this "counterweight" to dublin, spare me, you could put cork, limerick, belfast and galway together and I reckon I am right in saying, they still wouldnt be the size of dublin.

    Nobody is saying the counterweight exists at the moment. The point is that if you link the cities with good infrastructure then they will develop into a counterweight over time. So, instead of Cork-Galway-Limerick having a combined population of something like 500,000, they would grow to a population of 1 million plus. That's what infrastructure does. Much of Dublin's population and economic growth in the last 30 years can be linked to the 'all roads lead to Dublin' approach to infrastructural development during that time.


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    #2607
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,852 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I get the counterweight theory, and I get that it would take some pressure off Dublin, but nothing like some people expect in my opinion.

    Look at the north of England, manchester, liverpool, blackburn, leeds, bradford, all well linked by road and rail, very close to each other. Some far bigger than any any other irish city bar Dublin.

    They are in no way a counterweight to London in my opinion...


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    #2608
    Missyelliot2
    Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Missyelliot2


    @corksafetyalerts have reported 2 separate collisions on the N20 near Rathduff in the past hour.........and sadly, this pattern will continue


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    #2609
    Copper_pipe
    Registered Users Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Accident in Charleville earlier also


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    #2610
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Apparently the RWC bid is worth 800 million to the economy - the M20 would surely help this along if the brains trust get their finger out and get this fast-tracked.


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    #2611
    Baldilocks
    Registered Users Posts: 114 ✭✭Baldilocks


    While I would dearly love to see this road, having spent 3 hours on it last Friday night. I doubt it could be made ready in less than the 7 years between no and the world cup in 2023.
    Secondly and more importantly, the ~30 minutes saved in travel time from 90 minutes avg to ~60 minutes avg, wouldn't remotely come into the reckoning or World Rugby. Travelling around South Africa, Australia, New Zealand involves either flights or many hours at the wheel.

    Hopefully it will be included in next years infrastructre review. They are running out of reasons not to do it. When Gort-Tuam opens, it will be a glaring gap in our infrastructure.


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