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An ode to the e46 m3, having your cake and eating it!
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lol, I know MarkN... but a man's gotta drive a hard bargain :pac:
I'm still in consideration mode about his car. It is a fair price all right, but not outstanding. And I understand he doesn't have to make it outstanding as he is not in a position where he really needs to sell. Fair enough.
On a further note, I am looking at a few other models at the moment as well
There's a 04 with 17k less miles, been sold in a well known garage, that comes with a 6 month warranty for less than 40k. It's certainly not as nice looking.. i.e. doesn't have the CSL extras, but all those benefits and the fact that I can trade in my car might sway it.
Also looking at a few of the cheaper models... there's a number of 2002 models for the 24-29k range... with similar mileage. The best price one is in phoenix yellow*. That's a colour I think looks outstanding on the E46 M3, but I have to consider the resale difficulties with such a love/hate colour. Also, the one for 24.5k has been up there for about 8 months...... that could show there is something wrong with it, or just shows how difficult it is to sell the colour!!!!
I've also put some time into looking in UK since I last posted here and have discovered that there is not much value there, when you include the ridiculous VRT charge.
Seems like Ireland has better value on M3s at the moment. :eek:
* Out of interest, what's the general consensus here on the phoenix yellow?
hey jim, just some advice
1) if a car is being sold at what looks like a good price in a garage you will be absolute murdered on a trade in, unfortunately you cannot have your cake and eat it
2) phoenix yellow one has been around for a long time, which is definately an indication of how hard it is to move one in the colour and may also indicate something more sinister?
some of the 02s do look very cheap (which isnt good news for me
) but id also point out that they have all been for sale for a long time, so again there may be issues there.
For sure do not buy an m3 based purely on price, or it will cost you in the long run
edit/ you are talking about this 04 http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/M3/3.2/1155077/ more than one person has been told that its sold in the past few weeks!!!?0 -
Thanks cyrus...
Well, they can't murder me that much.. cars not worth too much anyway :-)hey jim, just some advice
1) if a car is being sold at what looks like a good price in a garage you will be absolute murdered on a trade in, unfortunately you cannot have your cake and eat it
But ya, I know where you're coming from... ill see what they say.
yes, there are a number of others that have been there the same length of time though. I would be most worried about the "something more sinister" side of things.2) phoenix yellow one has been around for a long time, which is definately an indication of how hard it is to move one in the colour and may also indicate something more sinister?
You're probably right here, as I guess they could end up costing a lot if they've not been looked after. But surely I shouldn't base it on just looks either?some of the 02s do look very cheap (which isnt good news for me) but id also point out that they have all been for sale for a long time, so again there may be issues there.
For sure do not buy an m3 based purely on price, or it will cost you in the long run
I realise Dave is a boardster, and maybe some of ye know him.... but I don't. So surely I should treat him like any other private seller, no??
What I see is someone who brought in a car from UK (not sure for how much) put money into it, then suddenly decides to sell it after putting up only 5k miles. A sceptic might think there was something fishy there..... not me of course :pac: :pac:edit/ you are talking about this 04 http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/BMW/M3/3.2/1155077/ more than one person has been told that its sold in the past few weeks!!!?
yes, that is the one I'm talking about. Damn, that's strange. I was on the phone to the guy yesterday and he didn't mention anything. But he also hasn't gotten back to me on it either. Might try ringing again there. I hope it's not gone.0 -
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Dave is a mod (maybe even a site founder) on bmw-driver.net and also has a company that sells aftermarket parts for bmws
he also had one of the nicest e36 m3s about for a long time too
I would base my purchasing decision on the following, in the following order:
1) car history, including service history and any crash repairs, paint touch ups etc
2) Profile of owner, this isnt always possible, but ideally you want to buy from an enthusiast.
3) Spec, to include colour combo (exterior interior) and mileage
4) Modifications - a positive thing if they are the right ones
5) Price
One of the lads on bmw-driver had a deal agreed on this car trading in his 01 m3 against it, when he called up after thinking it over he was told that its sold. Little fishy imo but maybe the dealer now wants a straight sale, its still not a good way to do business.
also be wary of 'warranties' offered by second hand garages, normally they arent worth the paper they are written on 0 -
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boomboombazza wrote: »
looks like the Prom in Salthill to me...Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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One of the lads on bmw-driver had a deal agreed on this car trading in his 01 m3 against it, when he called up after thinking it over he was told that its sold. Little fishy imo but maybe the dealer now wants a straight sale, its still not a good way to do business.
also be wary of 'warranties' offered by second hand garages, normally they arent worth the paper they are written on
Well, I spoke to them again yesterday evening. Looks like they pretty much had it sold, but the guy who had the deposit on it had some problems with his house and had to pull out. So back on the market..... but don't tell anyone :cool:
I'm still waiting to hear back if they'll take mine as a trade in though.
And if I can manage to sell my fantastically under priced car (*cough...see signature.... cough*cough*) asap, then I am very likely to go for Dave's car
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Well, I spoke to them again yesterday evening. Looks like they pretty much had it sold, but the guy who had the deposit on it had some problems with his house and had to pull out. So back on the market..... but don't tell anyone :cool:
I'm still waiting to hear back if they'll take mine as a trade in though.
And if I can manage to sell my fantastically under priced car (*cough...see signature.... cough*cough*) asap, then I am very likely to go for Dave's car
i bought Daves car this morning Jim.
only messing:D:D
hope you get a buyer for your car as daves is a cracker and it would be a shame for it not to go to another enthuastist (sp)0 -
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i bought Daves car this morning Jim.
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only messing:D:D
hope you get a buyer for your car as daves is a cracker and it would be a shame for it not to go to another enthuastist (sp)
lmao.... you actually did get me there.... my heart jumped a beat
I heard back from the garage and they offered me a decent price for my car as trade in. I've pretty much put in an offer for it, but seemingly someone made some sort of an agreement over the phone earlier.... although there is no deposit down yet.
I'm waiting to hear back on it... but not confident.
SOMEONE BY MY CAR..... PLEASE :pac: :pac: :pac:
I'm so unbelievably shocked that no one is jumping at the offer. It's price is dropped by 2k+ for quick sale. The trade in offer puts my private sale price to shame. I feel sick letting it go for so little.0 -
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Discussed here, amongst other M3's ! Think user JM1 has bought it, he was interested and had been speaking to the garage a few weeks back.
IMO, a centre armrest is a must, no idea how much it would cost to put one in though.
ya, was reading that thread there a while ago. My only guess is that they might think my offer more viable as it is much more cash to them.
Or else yourman could be just screwing me around. I dunno.
Ya, I'd like an armrest all right... and csl wheels...and csl bootlid
Dave, why don't you just buck it up and give me 5k for my car and the deal will be done :pac: :pac: :pac:
I'm sure you could sell it for 5k (or more) no prob with a little time..... just take over my add below.0 -
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ya, was reading that thread there a while ago. My only guess is that they might think my offer more viable as it is much more cash to them.
Or else yourman could be just screwing me around. I dunno.
Ya, I'd like an armrest all right... and csl wheels...and csl bootlid
Dave, why don't you just buck it up and give me 5k for my car and the deal will be done :pac: :pac: :pac:
I'm sure you could sell it for 5k (or more) no prob with a little time..... just take over my add below.
LOL, no thanks ! 0 -
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Maurice Lynn wrote: »I have a e46 M3 for sale if your interested, nobody has deposits down it can be yours straight away
I doubt you take trade ins
What the year/colour/spec/millage0 -
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