Kilkenny People's attack on the Hemporium

Our man in Havana · 04-10-2008 2:48pm

Business must be good for 2 shops

Until the government decide to outlaw it.

Firetrap · 05-10-2008 12:45am

I'm surprised any head shops have been allowed to open anywhere in Ireland. I've never been in one (yeah, I'm square :rolleyes:) but I assume they sell substances that do roughly the same thing as illegal ones but just haven't made it onto any list yet. And then there's that grey area of growing your own.

Our man in Havana · 05-10-2008 1:15am

Correct, they take advantage of the law. It could be all over at the stroke of a pen.

Pablo Discochop · 19-10-2008 5:52pm

I think the headshops are good. If you have a interest in experiencing drug taking you can legally buy them. Which means you dont have to go to a drug dealer , you don't have to take risks with the Garda for possession. would you prefree your kids dabbling in illegal drugs or the legal ones?

As for that articule - pointless, waste of time, stirring sh!t where its not needed.

KatCookie · 19-10-2008 8:01pm

I wouldnt call it a good thing, some of my friends went to a friends house, mostly just to drink, the host had bought something, (i know it was gotten from the Hemporium just not sure what it was) and because it wasnt illegal, they all tried some stuff and these were the type of people who'd never even touch a cigarette, yet they all got high off it.. Kinda disappointing really
If that shop wasnt in Kk then they only would have gotten drunk...
im not sitting on my high horse here, thats just what i see from my point of view...

kleefarr · 19-10-2008 8:27pm

Which end of Kieran street is this shop?
Rose Inn street end or Parliament street end?

Just asking like. :rolleyes:

Stephen · 19-10-2008 8:33pm

Parliament St end.

Firetrap · 19-10-2008 9:59pm

Ah, I assume following the New Age Crusties would get you there just as quickly

Insanesomeone · 20-10-2008 9:07am

Whether or not the hemporium warrents an attack like the one in the article is almost irrelevant imo. It's different, sells drugs and thus warrents negative attention from for no other reason than to be seen wagging their finger at it.

egan007 · 20-10-2008 9:19am

After reading the article it seems to be questioning the sale of BZP and not the shops existance or anything else it sells. The only reason they are questioning this is the inpending ban...

Raze_them_all · 20-10-2008 12:53pm

I think the major problem with the article is the line that says it can be lethal when taken with e.

Now I'm not a scientist but can't e be lethal by itself. Kinda like saying taking rat poison with heroin can damage your health

Our man in Havana · 20-10-2008 6:15pm

E can be fatal on it own. It can also be fatal in first time users.

kleefarr · 20-10-2008 6:36pm

I see that these are the top five, of which I have not had any involvement at all.

Which have you tried and what are your opinions?

BZP
A New Zealand import sold under brand names such as EFX, Asylum and Charl-eeze, and which closely mimics the effects of ecstasy. That means rushes, euphoria, hyperactivity and a hangover-style comedown.

Spice Gold
A smokeable cannabis substitute comprising 14 different herbs, plants and aromatic extracts, including baybean, brava, red clover, rose, Siberian motherwort, marshmallow, rose and honey.

Blue Lotus Flowers
Looks like the sort of brightly coloured pot-pourri you’d give your granny for Christmas, but smoked or soaked in a glass of water and swilled around the mouth, it produces a mild sedative effect.

Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds
A mild hallucinogen used by South American Indians in religious ceremonies and containing lysergic acid amide, a close relative of LSD.

Liquid Kratom extract
Grown and commonly used in Thailand, where it’s renowned for its opium-like qualities.

I find it quite amazing that some of those have similar properties to hard illegal substances, but poor old cannabis is getting a hammering still.

Pablo Discochop · 20-10-2008 7:21pm

KatCookie wrote: »

I wouldnt call it a good thing, some of my friends went to a friends house, mostly just to drink, the host had bought something, (i know it was gotten from the Hemporium just not sure what it was) and because it wasnt illegal, they all tried some stuff and these were the type of people who'd never even touch a cigarette, yet they all got high off it.. Kinda disappointing really
If that shop wasnt in Kk then they only would have gotten drunk...
im not sitting on my high horse here, thats just what i see from my point of view...

I do see your point. people are going to try drugs anyway, not everyone. So if decide to go to this shop instead of going to a local dealer is that not a good thing?

Our man in Havana · 20-10-2008 7:48pm

Tbh, I don't see any difference.

KatCookie · 20-10-2008 8:57pm

Pablo Discochop wrote: »

I do see your point. people are going to try drugs anyway, not everyone. So if decide to go to this shop instead of going to a local dealer is that not a good thing?

yes, but its the people who usually WOULDNT go near them are now trying them, thats what gets me.. If those shops didnt exist they wouldnt go near illegal drugs, simply because they are illegal!

Our man in Havana · 20-10-2008 9:05pm

I doubt they will be legal for much longer.

Gonzovision · 20-10-2008 9:29pm

I have heard some of their products are as good as, if not better than their illegal alternatives.

Our man in Havana · 20-10-2008 9:45pm

The probably are. That's what makes them dangerous for novices that would not ordinarily touch illegal drugs.

Firetrap · 20-10-2008 9:56pm

It's an interesting argument. Does having shops like these make people who wouldn't ordinarily do drugs do drugs? Or is it just making them easier to access for the sort of people who would have gone ahead and experimented anyway?

The government can move quickly when it wants to. I remember a couple of years ago they banned magic mushrooms because some guy took them and jumped off a building.

Raze_them_all · 20-10-2008 10:33pm

My friend used to be mad into drugs, but since he got stuff in the shop he says it's better to pay the bit extra so you wont run the risk of getting in legal trouble.

Our man in Havana · 20-10-2008 10:39pm

For now that is.

The thing is I doubt a Garda would know the difference between their stuff and the illegal stuff, so you could end up down the station.

Plug · 21-10-2008 8:07am

Bond-007 wrote: »

For now that is.

The thing is I doubt a Garda would know the difference between their stuff and the illegal stuff, so you could end up down the station.

Your right, my brother got caught a few times and they took that legall stuff off him and sent it up to dublin to be tested. Too much bollox acting.

KatCookie · 21-10-2008 7:17pm

Firetrap wrote: »

It's an interesting argument. Does having shops like these make people who wouldn't ordinarily do drugs do drugs?
Or is it just making them easier to access for the sort of people who would have gone ahead and experimented anyway?

Yeah, thats the point i'm making..
people who wouldnt normally are trying them..
and people who are gonna experiment anyways are gonna try the illegal stuff too.. Just to see the difference, of course!

Firetrap · 21-10-2008 11:05pm

Sorry for missing your post and basically repeating what you were saying. I'm a divil for scanning down through stuff and missing things

KatCookie · 21-10-2008 11:20pm

Ah no, its ok..
/bangs head against wall..

franklyshocked · 07-04-2009 4:38pm

Firetrap wrote: »

It's an interesting argument. Does having shops like these make people who wouldn't ordinarily do drugs do drugs? Or is it just making them easier to access for the sort of people who would have gone ahead and experimented anyway?

The government can move quickly when it wants to. I remember a couple of years ago they banned magic mushrooms because some guy took them and jumped off a building.

The week they were pushing through this ban, which had TD's taking the step of working overnight in the Dail, a young lad drank himself into a state and surrounded by his friends, jumped off a boat into the river in Carrick-on-shannon and drowned.
The ban on Magic mushrooms came into effect before the autopsy and inquest on that guy which showed if memory serves me that he had a large quantity of alcohol consumed and some partially, not fully, digested mushrooms begging the question, what caused him to jump?
Is alcohol the greater evil.
But sure its only a few harmless drinks,
But sure its only a few harmless (Insert Drug)

Its not the drug, its the idiot taking them

JohnMc1 · 07-04-2009 8:39pm

coillcam wrote: »

Haha just came across this now, Jesus every town seems to be getting one these days.

For God's sake we are in the middle of a Recession and now I have to pay to park my car outside my front door. A guy's got to relax somehow.

Seriously if the Hemporium was open in '05 when i did Christmas at Byrne's toy shop I would probably have been on a first name basis with them.

Doffaldinho · 08-04-2009 1:26pm

franklyshocked wrote: »

Its not the drug, its the idiot taking them

Exactly, Some people can't handle them and go over the top.

Like I was with a person taking pills before and they went over the top while everyone else was on a nice chatty buzz listening to some tunes having a few drinks this person was lying on the ground trying to imitate the shape of a swastika.

ECOLOGICAL · 17-04-2009 11:19am

all drugs destroy peoples lives and families legal or not ,some can handle them some cannot is rubbish it catches up on everyone eventually some it takes few years others have seen it take up to 15 or twenty years but they end up even worse with epilepsy yes epilepsy and then others get very bad nervous breakdowns chew on that

Kilkenny People's attack on the Hemporium

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