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Student Fees in relation to the Student Centre Extension
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11-09-2008 5:48pm#1Evening folks,
just been in the Tierney building there trying to sort out my fees, I asked how come last year I only had to pay 103euro (I've got the grant \o/), when this year it is 150euro.
I was a bit stunned by the lady's reply. She told me about some referendum a few years ago (before I started in UCD) that meant students were required to pay for the 'extension' of the current student centre. This is something I haven't heard of until today.
Apparently, that 150euro that my grant wont cover is my payment ''for the new student centre building that still hasn't been built''.
She then expressed her dispproval at the whole thing and said that, at the time, it was a big deal on campus and all the students were asked to vote.
I'm just posting for more information on it all to be pefectly honest. I know very little about it and I'd like to know more. If, in a nutshell, students are forced to pay for the building of a new student centre (that still hasn't been started), then it is a disgrace but surely there's more to it than that? Is there?
I don't want to form an opinion on it one way or another until I actually know what's what but I don't particularily want to pay for something that I had no say in to begin with.
View/opinions etc.. please
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It is a bit stupid. The current facilities don't appear to be under any strain at all.
So is this all true?
Is the euro150 fee there in order to pay for a centre that doesn't exsist?
I apologise if I come across as ignorant here but I genuinely was not aware of this until today. Surely I'm not the only student who doesn't know the 'ins and outs' of the whole situation.
either that or I need to pay more attention!0 -
Yup it's true, I believe it's itemised on the website when you go to pay.So is this all true?
Is the euro150 fee there in order to pay for a centre that doesn't exsist?
I apologise if I come across as ignorant here but I genuinely was not aware of this until today. Surely I'm not the only student who doesn't know the 'ins and outs' of the whole situation.
either that or I need to pay more attention!0 -
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Ah, I remember voting a big fat NO on this one. It passed because most UCD students are completely apathetic about stuff like this, especially when they think "ah I'll be gone, it won't affect me".I was a bit stunned by the lady's reply. She told me about some referendum a few years ago (before I started in UCD) that meant students were required to pay for the 'extension' of the current student centre. This is something I haven't heard of until today. Apparently, that 150euro that my grant wont cover is my payment ''for the new student centre building that still hasn't been built''.
She then expressed her dispproval at the whole thing and said that, at the time, it was a big deal on campus and all the students were asked to vote.
Tbh - the SU has *much* bigger issues it could be working on than building a bigger Student Centre. But as we all know student politics is about ego-stroking rather than dealing with real issues.0 -
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MizzLolly, I do appreciate where you're coming from, absolutely. Unfortunately, that's the way democracy of any description works. I had no say in whether or not Ireland joined the EU because I wasn't born. Similarly, to use a more recent example, I did have a say last year as to which political parties formed the government. If you look at my sig, you'll see that I quite clearly didn't get what I wanted. On a personal level, I might object to a Minister for Education whom I didn't vote for strongly hinting that I'll have to pay college fees in the near future. But if it comes to that, and he won't budge, then I'll have to grin and bear it because the people of Ireland, which includes me, collectively put this man and his party into Office.
The grant doesn't cover it because it was brought in only to cover the registration fee. Similarly, the Free Fees initiative only covers tuition fees, which is why I have had to pay a higher and higher registration fee every year. Again, that's political agreements for you.
Now, on a much more personal level: if you genuinely feel you will have difficulty paying this then there is a student hardship fund administered by the SU. If you have a talk with the Welfare Officer then the Union may be able to do something for you, that's what the fund is there for 0 -
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MizzLolly, I do appreciate where you're coming from, absolutely. Unfortunately, that's the way democracy of any description works. I had no say in whether or not Ireland joined the EU because I wasn't born. Similarly, to use a more recent example, I did have a say last year as to which political parties formed the government. If you look at my sig, you'll see that I quite clearly didn't get what I wanted. On a personal level, I might object to a Minister for Education whom I didn't vote for strongly hinting that I'll have to pay college fees in the near future. But if it comes to that, and he won't budge, then I'll have to grin and bear it because the people of Ireland, which includes me, collectively put this man and his party into Office.
The grant doesn't cover it because it was brought in only to cover the registration fee. Similarly, the Free Fees initiative only covers tuition fees, which is why I have had to pay a higher and higher registration fee every year. Again, that's political agreements for you.
Now, on a much more personal level: if you genuinely feel you will have difficulty paying this then there is a student hardship fund administered by the SU. If you have a talk with the Welfare Officer then the Union may be able to do something for you, that's what the fund is there for
Student hardship fund? Where exactly did you read that I cannot get the money for it? I said already I have the grant and I work. My issue isn't that I can't get the money to pay it, it's that I shouldn't have to pay so much on something I disagree with in the first place.
And it most definately should not be called a 'registration' fee.They're starting it next March. No you will not get free membership of the gym, but you will be allowed use say the debating room if you prebook it. And I really don't know why you are annoyed. 90% of the people who voted on it, payed money towards it, but will never get to use it (The other 10% being people who did postgrads or were doing medicine). Unless you're doing a 3 year degree and then hop out of here, you'll get to use it
The statistics mean very little to me gubbie. I don't think putting a euro150 charge on a student who probably wont ever use it is fair. I can't see the debating room being of particular importance to me either
What about the students who do leave after a 3 year degree? How will they benefit?
I'd also like to hear a little more from the students who don't agree with the fee.. I'm interested in hearing both sides..0 -
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Evening folks,
just been in the Tierney building there trying to sort out my fees, I asked how come last year I only had to pay 103euro (I've got the grant \o/), when this year it is 150euro.
I was a bit stunned by the lady's reply. She told me about some referendum a few years ago (before I started in UCD) that meant students were required to pay for the 'extension' of the current student centre. This is something I haven't heard of until today. Apparently, that 150euro that my grant wont cover is my payment ''for the new student centre building that still hasn't been built''.
She then expressed her dispproval at the whole thing and said that, at the time, it was a big deal on campus and all the students were asked to vote.
I'm just posting for more information on it all to be pefectly honest. I know very little about it and I'd like to know more. If, in a nutshell, students are forced to pay for the building of a new student centre (that still hasn't been started), then it is a disgrace but surely there's more to it than that? Is there?
I don't want to form an opinion on it one way or another until I actually know what's what but I don't particularily want to pay for something that I had no say in to begin with.
View/opinions etc.. please
Aight, Lols.
In essence, we got fúcked.
UCD's organisation is a load of shíte. Numerous threads will prove that. What's particularly shameful though, is the treatment of students by the college. In UCD, we pay a €1000 or so 'registration' which pays for our membership of the student union. Now I'm drunk, so 'in vino veritas.' I did my leaving in 05. This is my fourth year in UCD. In all that time the people involved in SU politics have proved themselves a shower of self absorbed wánkers and prícks with no interests in anything other than themselves. (Ban me if you like, it's the truth.) The utter indifference of those people to ordinary students is beyond pathetic. They're scum. We as students are thus left to pay the bills for all of this crap. There's absolutely nothing we can do. It's unfair, and it's immoral. I hate it, but I'm helpless. And that is UCD for you. I would not recommend to a single person that they come here. Because this kind of behaviour is par for the course.rainbow kirby wrote: »Ah, I remember voting a big fat NO on this one. It passed because most UCD students are completely apathetic about stuff like this, especially when they think "ah I'll be gone, it won't affect me".
Tbh - the SU has *much* bigger issues it could be working on than building a bigger Student Centre. But as we all know student politics is about ego-stroking rather than dealing with real issues.
This is what I despise about our college.0 -
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