Kitten stabbed to death in drunken attack

brendansmith

dsmythy wrote: »

You see this is the kind of response that fuels the flames.

No, stating that you find a story about a drunk stabbing a kitten and throwing it against a wall funny, lights the fire and fuels the flames at the same time.

Jigsaw

Some of the views on this thread are utterly f**king ridiculous. There are some humans who, with a guarantee of no prosecution, I would happily kill in favour of a cat.

People form emotional bonds to their pets. Dudess made the point earlier that whilst cats are of course nowhere near as intelligent as humans they do still clearly feel the emotions of fear and distress.

It is more about the emotional bond that developed humans form. If I point a high calibre shotgun at the head of a human baby only born twelve hours it will show no signs of fear. Does that mean it is alright to stab a new born baby abandoned outside a hospital and throw it against a wall. If the baby in question has been abandoned by its mother, the mother clearly wants nothing to do with it and no one else has at that point formed an emotional bond with the child.

Really though, in conclusion, the guy who did this is just a cnut and provides a convincing argument for eugenics. I would welcome his death but I would not welcome the judicial system being the arbiters of whether or not he lives or dies.

reggiethefirst

Christine Yummy Tripod wrote: »

What kind a horrible c*nt stabs a kitten. That guy deserves a public flogging. This has nothing to do with drink - this country's streets are filled with sub-human inbred troglodyte petite-crime scum. It is a case of breeding. Tiny gene pool = scrambled brains. They should be put down. Put their kids in a bag and throw them in the river.

I see. So, as punishment for killing this kitten, you say he should be publicly flogged and killed himself, then drown his kids. So if you were in control you would flog him, kill him and then put his kids in a bag and drown them. A truly horrific act.

Hypocrite anyone?

Bob the Builder

AtomicHorror wrote: »

I get it. Because we're talking about a kitten? This humour business is tricky.

It sure is, but the ridiculous is not necessarily funny.

Oh we're going to do this then. Okay. They don't breed fast enough or produce big enough litters. They grow too slowly and don't reach reproductive age for months. They're are large, they eat a lot and they tend to become aggressive when caged, poked at or prodded in any manner. They are extremely uncooperative when it comes to running mazes or accepting injections. When they decide to hurt someone, it really hurts. And of course, they are a widely domesticated species and most scientists have enough issues culling mice and rats without having to euthanize something that looks like their beloved household pet.

Ah, yah humour business is tricky alright. ...Humour killed the kitty.

yah, I agree, it's was ridiculous. Whilst the act wasn't funny, the article was such a drama overhaul.

And in relation to your third and really long paragraph, dude, I had actually being wondering about that for ages, and now i know. Cheers!

AtomicHorror

andrew wrote: »

Well, if you actually feel that way about animals, i can see where you're coming from.

So it is ok to kill a feral cat, but not a domesticated one then? Whats the difference? Do you not think that a feral cat has value in of itself, just as a human being does?

Of course, not equal value to a human but that's my subjective valuation. In the case of a feral cat we are once again talking about an animal which may potentially spread disease in an urban area or pose a threat of some other nature. I know squat about the reasons why people have feral cats removed, though I suspect the biggest reason would be that they'd attack domesticated cats. If in fact the feral cat does not pose any kind of threat then to my mind there's no justification for killing it. If it does, then relocation should be the first option. If that is impractical, then the killing should be as quick and painless as possible. Shooting or stabbing don't fit the bill.

Jigsaw

reggiethefirst wrote: »

I see. So, as punishment for killing this kitten, you say he should be publicly flogged and killed themselves, then drown his kids.

Hypocrite anyone?

I think he is suggesting that it is a symptom of a greater problem. That such a person who is capable of doing this to a defenceless animal lacks moral fibre and that such a person is not desirable.

I'd say that drinkmilkkids is not a hypocrite, but I would say that your post is sh1te.

(I believe it is attack the post not the poster)

AtomicHorror

reggiethefirst wrote: »

I see. So, as punishment for killing this kitten, you say he should be publicly flogged and killed himself, then drown his kids. So if you were in control you would flog him, kill him and then put his kids in a bag and drown them. A truly horrific act.

Hypocrite anyone?

Nah, not a hypocrite. An emotive response though, definitely goes too far. Does the poster mean it though? Animal rights activists seem to have that kinda thinking.

reggiethefirst

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Nah, not a hypocrite. An emotive response though, definitely goes too far. Does the poster mean it though? Animal rights activists seem to have that kinda thinking.

Bit emotive alright. Sorry, I just find it so hypocritical when I hear these animal rights activists saying that these people who commit these admittedly horrible acts should be punished in similarly cruel and crueler ways. The same people who campaign against cruelty? Anybody see the irony?

JC 2K3

Damn the internet and its desensitizing nature....

AtomicHorror

reggiethefirst wrote: »

Bit emotive alright. Sorry, I just find it so hypocritical when I hear these animal rights activists saying that these people who commit these admittedly horrible acts should be punished in similarly cruel and crueler ways. The same people who campaign against cruelty? Anybody see the irony?

Certainly. People frequently confuse justice and revenge. Mix that with equating the life values of humans with other animal species and things get nasty. Thankfully we don't seem to see much of that in this country.

drunkmonkey

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Am I a bad man to think this is hillarious?

I nearly fell over laughing when I read it happend in Limerick, even a pussy ain't safe down there, second thought was, why do I never hear these people complain when it's a person that's stabbed?

Personally I hate cats, they are cruel to other animals, I have no sympathy for the cat, I hope it suffered, those little dirt bags are so cruel to mice, rabbits and birds, they deserve everything they get....

Anyone else think the amount of wild cats is gettin out of control, I really fear the population is gettin out of control and destroying other wildlife, suggest a cull, Like the Canadians do with the seals every year...clubs and all...

Here kitty, kitty....

brendansmith

drunkmonkey wrote: »

second thought was, why do I never hear these people complain when it's a person that's stabbed?

drunkmonkey

brendansmith wrote: »

Some Animal Rights campaigners were up in arms, You never hear of the Peoples Rights Movement complain about stabbings....

Jigsaw

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Some Animal Rights campaigners were up in arms, You never hear of the Peoples Rights Movement complain about stabbings....

That;s because some humans, by virtue of their actions, relinquish their right to human empathy and therefore if they are stabbed and bleed to death in a skip who cares? A kitten wil not have done anything to hurt anyone.

brendansmith

Jigsaw wrote: »

That;s because some humans, by virtue of their actions, relinquish their right to human empathy and therefore if they are stabbed and bleed to death in a skip who cares? A kitten wil not have done anything to hurt anyone.

Very true, hanging Saddam Hussein for crimes against humanity is very different to killing a defenceless young animal for a laugh!

Jigsaw

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I nearly fell over laughing when I read it happend in Limerick, even a pussy ain't safe down there, second thought was, why do I never hear these people complain when it's a person that's stabbed?

Personally I hate cats, they are cruel to other animals, I have no sympathy for the cat, I hope it suffered, those little dirt bags are so cruel to mice, rabbits and birds, they deserve everything they get....

Anyone else think the amount of wild cats is gettin out of control, I really fear the population is gettin out of control and destroying other wildlife, suggest a cull, Like the Canadians do with the seals every year...clubs and all...

Here kitty, kitty....

I think you are embarking upon a bit of a trolling session. However, in the event you are not, I want you to realise in no uncertain terms that you are a tw@t. Before you posted, I cared less about your life than that of my pet. Following your post I'm afraid you have slipped down the ranking.

Overheal

if people didnt stab cats we would never know the joys of undead zombie cats. simple as.

Dudess

brendansmith wrote: »

No, stating that you find a story about a drunk stabbing a kitten and throwing it against a wall funny, lights the fire and fuels the flames at the same time.

But nobody (apart from a troll who doesn't count) said they thought what happened to the kitten was funny. Some people said they found the hysterical style of writing funny - there's a massive difference.

kowloon

I think a lot of people would be more outraged at the death of a kitten than two scumbags from the street having a fight and one ending up dead.
Outrage sells newspapers.

pickarooney

Dudess wrote: »

In my opinion, it doesn't warrant such a style of story or to be located in the main national news - a brief in the local paper if there's room for it, and that's about it.

Or page one of the tabbyloids.

gixerfixer

Says a hell of a lot about a person if they find a story like that funny.:rolleyes:

Karoma

drunkmonkey: quit trolling.

conceited banned for his abusive contributions.
Jigsaw infracted.
Cop on and calm down.

thelordofcheese

gixerfixer wrote: »

Says a hell of a lot about a person if they find a story like that funny.:rolleyes:

That they've got a sense of humour?

Xavi6

Similar story over here in the last day or so -

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKA945720080911

Australia hunts kangaroo fighter

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australian animal welfare authorities launched a nationwide hunt on Thursday for a man filmed punching and kicking a kangaroo unconscious.

The video, which shows the man using kickboxing-style attacks on the kangaroo as his friend laughs while filming, was sent to the RSPCA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) in Western Australia state.

In one scene the man pulls the kangaroo towards him and uses his knee to hit the animal's chest and the man punches the kangaroo's face as the animal struggles to remain standing.

A final punch knocks the kangaroo to the ground where it appears to lay unconscious. It is unclear whether the attack resulted in the death of the animal, which authorities believe was injured, possibly in a car accident.

The RSPCA said it had launched a nationwide appeal to catch the men responsible for the attack and video.

"We are appealing to every media outlet in Australia to help us track down the cowards behind the vicious attack on this kangaroo," RSPCA spokesman Richard Barry told reporters.

"Thankfully this sickening footage has now been removed from the website where it was first seen. The next stage is to ensure that those responsible for this film are brought to justice," said Barry.

"Only a coward would attack an injured and obviously terrified young animal much smaller than himself. We want these cowards to be caught, charged and prosecuted," he said.

Animal cruelty is one of the most disgusting things. The animals are innocent, have done absolutely nothing wrong and are in most cases completely defenceless. I wish the kangaroo had of kicked the bollox out of your man.

If I saw anyone kick a dog or anything similar on the street I'd be straight over (and I have done in the past). And God help anyone that intentionally harmed an animal of mine.

Dudess

gixerfixer wrote: »

Says a hell of a lot about a person if they find a story like that funny.:rolleyes:

It does indeed... except nobody here finds it funny. Why is it so difficult to get the point the OP is making...?

Look at the story Xavi posted: see how there's no hysterical language and no description of the kangaroo as if it's a person, yet the horror is still well conveyed - just not in a ridiculous sense, hence there is nothing funny whatsoever about that particular style.

drunkmonkey

Dudess wrote: »

But nobody (apart from a troll who doesn't count) said they thought what happened to the kitten was funny. Some people said they found the hysterical style of writing funny - there's a massive difference.

I don't think what happend the cat is funny, there's some twisted individual out there I agree (but no more twisted than a cat), I couldn't do that to another creature....
I think "where" it happend was funny, massive difference....
I'm really sick of rescusing half dead animals from cats, they seem to wound them and make them suffer for as long as possible before coming back and eventually killing them for sport not food, I have a serious dislike of cats for this reason.....I've never encountered a more selfish and cruel animal....If this happend a dog I would be upset and shocked.....I'm an animal lover (but not cat's)...

drunkmonkey

Karoma wrote: »

drunkmonkey: quit trolling.

conceited banned for his abusive contributions.
Jigsaw infracted.
Cop on and calm down.

ok Karoma, i'm out of this thread....feel 2 strongly about cats...best shut up...

WindSock

gixerfixer wrote: »

Says a hell of a lot about a person if they find a story like that funny.:rolleyes:

Says a lot about a person too if they keep taking things up the wrong way, even if it's explained to them repeatedly in black & white.

Radharc na Sleibhte

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

1) The fact that the killing of a cat makes it into a national broadsheet

2) The way it's a copy and paste job of a real murder story

3) The fact that the kitten was "rushed" to hospital

4) The fact that someone stabbed a kitten

5) The juxtaposition of the words "Brutal" and "Fifi".

You have a point to be fair, I just think "funny" is the wrong word.
You'd wanna be some bastard to kill an animal like that.
Again I'm no PETA subscriber but ffs like.

Will

It wasn't me.

localhothead

wow , some wonderful people using these boards I must say .

any normal person would have posted in protest about the disgusting cruel vile action
a person performed on a tiny defenseless creature

but the OP johnny skeleton choose to comment on the way it was reported ?

the fact that the johnny skeleton did this indicates he should seriously consider getting
professional help - as he has dangerously skewed mental issues.

if you cannot empathise with this evil act , and have nothing better to do with your
sad and obviously ill mind - than to comment on the articles method of delivery
then I truly feel for your friends and family - to have to suffer your incredibly soulless wit and insight


personaly my thoughts are this - the person who did this is a danger to people aswell as animals
is obviously a weak sad little coward , who should really face someone his own size
but cant - so takes it out on the innocent defensesless weak.

I hate to say it , but i sure hope it happens to him soon.

and lets hope he doenst run into johnny skeletons family , kids or animals in the meantime
cos that would just so funny wouldnt it ?


in the papers today , an american fire fighter risked his life to save a kitten from a burning aprartment - and actually gave it mouth to mouth CPR to bring it back .

that - is a real man , you are not .

WindSock

localhothead wrote: »

and actually gave it mouth to mouth CPR to bring it back .

:pac: Roflcopter


I'm sorry, but I can't stop laughing at that. Thanks.

JC 2K3

localhothead wrote: »

in the papers today , an american fire fighter risked his life to save a kitten from a burning aprartment - and actually gave it mouth to mouth CPR to bring it back .

that - is a real man , you are not .

ROFL.

Morlar

I also think the style of writing /delivery of the article is hilarious & ridiculous.

Its a kitten for god sake - not a human being. & yes just for any idiot who needs a disclaimer on everything - the person who did it should be dealt with by the guards.

JC 2K3

Morlar wrote: »

just for any idiot who needs a disclaimer on everything - the person who did it should be dealt with by the guards.

But apparently that is not enough. Apparently we must feel sick to our stomachs with sheer disgust rendering any attempt to recognise humour futile.

paddy316i

It's not so much about the killing of the cat but the person who owned the cat. People get very attached to pets and I can understand why. If it was my pet I would be upset too I'm sure. I haven't read all the posts here but people comparing this to killing animals for meat in slaughter houses doesn't compare. As regards people saying it's funny - they are fools who don't know what they are talking about. I am involved in shooting and have killed plently of animals in my day but thats beside the point. I was shooting with a neighbour ( an ass) who wanted to killl an animal cause it would be "a laugh". When the chance came he nearly started crying and couldn't do it. What am I rambling on about you may ask? People who think killing animals is "hilarious" don't know what they are talking about.

Anyway rant over. Oh please don't start bombarding me with animal cruelty posts - heard them all before (boring)

Dudess

paddy316i wrote: »

As regards people saying it's funny - they are fools who don't know what they are talking about.

Groan... nobody is saying what was done to the kitten and what the kitten suffered, is funny...

lee_arama

I come from a farming background and I can't understand why anyone would suffer such animal cruelty at all.

I don't say it lightly when I say that I would gladly do time for murder if I ever came across pricks like those who stab ****ing animals.

Degsy

Feckin hate cats.The best way to deal with them is a sack of bricks and a handy canal.

Insect Overlord

Just to give my off-topic opinion first: this thread has been ridiculous from the very first page, and has descended into flaming, trolling and general idiocy, and I think it should be locked before half of AfterHours gets banned or infracted.

Back on topic. I actually agree with the OP. The same article made the front page of our local paper here. That is understandable because of local interest. The fact that a national paper chose to place it ahead of more far-reaching issues is just strange. To then use such a writing style when describing the incident is best categorised as funny in the sense of bizarre. I appreciate how hideous the crime was. I think we all do. What I don't appreciate is the sensationalist approach taken by the paper. Obviously they knew the story would attract great interest as pets are commonplace and usually loved dearly by their multitudinous owners. The story wasn't reported for its own sake, it was just used to increase sales and profits.

Degsy

The article also says that those responsible could do it to a young child next..ffs..idiocy.
I wonder when the name "fifi" was dubbed on this much-loved family pet..probably during the course of the interview.
The idea that the killing of a poxy cat should make the news ever,is laughable,especially when there's plenty of human suffering to go around.

stovelid

An Fhile wrote: »

this thread has been ridiculous from the very first page, and has descended into flaming, trolling and general idiocy

Perfect for here. Should be stickied.

drunkmonkey

Degsy wrote: »

Feckin hate cats.The best way to deal with them is a sack of bricks and a handy canal.

and another thing that gets my back up is drowning cats, don't know how many sacks of dead cats i've pulled out of the local lake....it's disgusting...
just hit them with a brick and bury them, it's a lot easier on everyone...

Turd Ferguson

Dudess wrote: »

Groan... nobody is saying what was done to the kitten and what the kitten suffered, is funny...

I agree, and so does he

Nerin

*realises he's responding to troll. Ignores drunkmonkey* degsy,would you not think getting them put down/neutering the cat is not a better idea? *realises degsy probably doesnt... Realises i'm still typing...*

Karoma

Degsy wrote: »

Feckin hate cats.The best way to deal with them is a sack of bricks and a handy canal.

I'm getting rather tired of your trolling. For now: just stop posting in this thread.

localhothead infracted...

arybvtcw0eolkf

I realise this is After Hours and a lot of things are said 'tongue in cheek', but I've modified by opinions of more than one person here based on their behaviour in this thread and what they're willing to post up.

Cats in sacks, and hitting them over the head with bricks etc.. I've a cat, I've also two dogs - all three are treated as family members, we put equal value on all their lives.

And that said, if ANYONE wanted to come here and try harm one of my dogs or my cat I'd quickly put a value on that person's life far below that of my pets and I'd exact very heavy punishment on the idiot.

So the killing of a cat made the national headlines!.. Wow, last week it was Kerry Kitona's tit's in The Star - slow news days happen, don't buy the god damn papers if you feel strongly enough.

RugbyFanatic

If I ever saw someone do that to a defenceless animal I would beat them within a shade of their life.

Something about someone so violently and horribly killing such an innocent, harmless, defenceless animal that probably never knew any pain or danger and struggled to even understand what it had done wrong to deserve such a cruel punishment.

Honestly I hope this guy is named and shamed because I would certainly pay him a visit. And thats not internet talk, I would.

arybvtcw0eolkf

RugbyFanatic wrote: »

Something about someone so violently and horribly killing such an innocent, harmless, defenceless animal that probably never knew any pain or danger and struggled to even understand what it had done wrong to deserve such a cruel punishment.

Well said.

Reading that sent a shiver through me, pity more here couldn't be as sensitive and understanding.

JC 2K3

I wonder if any here who profess such outrage at this incident that they want this guy's head actually give a shít about global poverty, sweatshops, child labour etc.

Seriously, horrific as this incident was, it's just a cat.... You probably passively support much worse crimes on a day to day basis but don't care because it hasn't been sensationalised like this.