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Savage Rifles

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  • 17-09-2008 12:03am
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    Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭


    Is there anywhere in the country that stocks Savage rifles? I'd like to take a look at them in person. Also, has anyone any experience of them? The recommended price on the website seems very reasonable, for what I've heard are very accurate rifles. Cheers in advance lads.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jaycee


    I have one , love it to bits ..

    I havent seen a bad one yet .
    As to who has what in stock ? ...best to ring around first and go see .


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Cheers, great to hear a satisfied customer. I also know Slug Chucker has one and it's demonically accurate, but I'm looking at the hunter series 111GL, seems the most suited of their left-handed models.

    I seem to recall there being someone down the country who stocks them, so I'll wait and see whether anyone has any more information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jaycee


    Lots 'deal ' in Savage rifles , my point was that they may not have the model your looking for in stock at the time , so its probably a good idea to phone first.

    even more so if your looking for a 'southpaw' model .


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Okay, cheers, I'll do some calling around tomorrow and see what's on offer.


    Edit: found a heavy barrel lefty under Law Enforcement. It's only in .223 and .308, but .308 would suit my needs, and do some targets to boot. Now to make a few phone calls tomorrow. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭fish slapped


    Found these guys in the list of dealers posted on this forum. They might be worth a try, I haven't used them so I don't know what their like ;

    http://www.may-mac.com/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Let us know how you get on, I always like to hear about new rifles.

    I have fired a Savage before (only at 200 yards though and in .223) and indeed it was doing the business. Had a very light trigger though which I was not used to at all. Scared the bejaysus out of me for the first few shots :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 408 ✭✭tiny-nioclas


    I had a savage model 200 in .223 around two years ago, great rifle, very accurate and strong, not very nice looking for a synthetic stocked one but it killed any amount of foxes :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭J.R.


    I have a .22 LR Savage left - handed.....not very fancy but very accurate & reliable.

    Rod & Gun in Tymon Shopping Centre, Tallaght, Dublin, ordered it in for me ...he had the right handed model in stock but had to order the left - handed version.

    You are probably aware that the left-handed versions are dearer new .......22 LR was €40 dearer.....Benelli Montrefeltro Semi-auto I have was €120 dearer new for left - handed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Actually, out of curiosity, what have people actually paid for their Savage rifles in Ireland, if anyone feels like saying? Looking at the RRP on the site is one thing, but getting quotes is another.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    I have one (10fp-le 308 with a hs precision stock), like it, not a huge fan of the Accutrigger though, mainly because mine has given some trouble. As jaycee can testify, I've also discovered that it shoots particularly poorly if the scope mounts loosen. :)

    BTW jaycee, I still have to give that man the replacement screwdriver set, got it months ago and forgot about it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Only issue I have with the 10FLP is that it's short action only, and I'm not too certain about the .308; I'd rather it in a long action firing .270 or the like. I'm trying to find out whether such a thing exists at the moment, and with luck, it won't be too extortionate. If the Savage still remains reasonable, well and good, otherwise, might be looking elsewhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,352 ✭✭✭J.R.


    Actually, out of curiosity, what have people actually paid for their Savage rifles in Ireland, if anyone feels like saying? Looking at the RRP on the site is one thing, but getting quotes is another.

    .22 LR 11 GL left handed € 410....right handed version was € 370


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jaycee


    civdef wrote: »
    I have one (10fp-le 308 with a hs precision stock), like it, not a huge fan of the Accutrigger though, mainly because mine has given some trouble. As jaycee can testify, I've also discovered that it shoots particularly poorly if the scope mounts loosen. :)

    Aye, it isnt a help right enough , did i hear someone mention thread lock ?
    Would he listen ? :D

    Have exactly the same rifle and its just magic . There is a fix for that accutrigger prob too .. (Form Q here )
    BTW jaycee, I still have to give that man the replacement screwdriver set, got it months ago and forgot about it.

    Ohh yeah , tsk tsk .. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    If I can reconcile myself with the .308, the 10FLP looks fantastic, assuming (probably wrongly) that I can get it at a civilised price. I tried the Accutrigger before on a .17HMR and I thought it was very nice indeed. It was out of the box, no tweaking, and I still liked it a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jaycee


    What would be wrong with a 308 ? .. its good for both target and hunting
    depending on the ammo you use .

    The Savage .308 rifles have usually a 1 in 10 twist so it will be more at home with the heavier bullets , 168 , 180 , 190 ...
    Most other 308 stuff is in a 1 in 12 twist .


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Nothing inherently wrong with it, and I'll attempt to try out the various calibres in consideration, but I prefer the idea of the versatility and flat trajectory of the .270. I'll see whether I can try both and directly compare, but from my reading, the .270 is more versatile.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Jonty


    Nothing inherently wrong with it, and I'll attempt to try out the various calibres in consideration, but I prefer the idea of the versatility and flat trajectory of the .270. I'll see whether I can try both and directly compare, but from my reading, the .270 is more versatile.

    I'll give you that the 270 is more versatile in regards to grainweight. It can be loaded from 110 to 150. But the flatness of the trajectory remark should be withdrawn:D

    Look at the federal ammo directory, the factory loaded 150gr nosler partition in .270, zeroed at 200yds drops 7.5in @ 300,and 21.6in @400. In comparison the exact bullet in .308 zeroed at 200 drops 8in @ 300 and 23.4in @ 400.


    Given that all practical shooting should definately not be engaged past 300yds its fair to say that the main stalking cartridges in this country all do the same thing inside 300 yds.

    Now I'm not having a go at lads with .270s. And I'm not doing an overall .270 Vs .308 - which is better answer, All I'm doing is quoting published information - Federal Ammunition and Ballistics Catalogue 2007


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jaycee


    Jonty wrote: »
    I'll give you that the 270 is more versatile in regards to grainweight. It can be loaded from 110 to 150. But the flatness of the trajectory remark should be withdrawn:D

    Eh ? ... 308s have loadings from 110gr to 220gr , how is that worse ?
    Look at the federal ammo directory, the factory loaded 150gr nosler partition in .270, zeroed at 200yds drops 7.5in @ 300,and 21.6in @400. In comparison the exact bullet in .308 zeroed at 200 drops 8in @ 300 and 23.4in @ 400.

    Remember , you can zero for drop ..the real bogey is wind drift and thats all about higher BC (Ballistic coeffecient ) , the higher the BC of the available bullets .the smaller the error in wind reading.

    The heaviest .270 round has a BC of about 462 , the highest .380 round is closer to 500 .

    This probably explaiins why there arent many long range matches shot with a .270 but plenty with the .308

    Given that all practical shooting should definately not be engaged past 300yds its fair to say that the main stalking cartridges in this country all do the same thing inside 300 yds.

    Hunting is a whole other ball of wax , a real 300 yard shot in the field is a rare thing , and the number of people who are truly capable of making that shot 100% of the time is less still .
    Now I'm not having a go at lads with .270s. And I'm not doing an overall .270 Vs .308 - which is better answer, All I'm doing is quoting published information - Federal Ammunition and Ballistics Catalogue 2007
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    Indeed , the .270 is a well respected calibre and much beloved by one Jack of Connor who used it to shoot just about everything . I just wonder how well he would have done with a .308 ?... Horses for courses i guess .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Jonty


    jaycee wrote: »
    Eh ? ... 308s have loadings from 110gr to 220gr , how is that worse ?

    I suppose that a .270 will more likely stabilize all 110 - 150 gr pills as its only 40gr difference between lightest and heaviest.

    Granted, rounds are available for 308 in 110 to 220 gr range, but due to the large diffent range of pill size, 1 rifle/barrel with the one twist rate will not suffice - therefore I believe a 270 is more "versatile". It can double up as a long range foxing rifle, there should be no need for 220 grainers in Ireland. I'm not saying you can't shoot foxes with the 308, hell I've done it and it was overkill. But seeing as 110gr loads as more widely available for the 270 as apposed to the 308, it is still more versatile.

    As regards a true 300 yd shot, Yes its rare but what I'm saying is there is no difference between the 2 in hunting terms out to 300yds.

    Wind drift did not enter the equation at all, I was purely dealing with drop.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,671 ✭✭✭Feisar


    jaycee wrote: »
    The heaviest .270 round has a BC of about 462 , the highest .380 round is closer to 500 .


    I thought it was all about the 7mm for the high BC. What grain are those 308's? Probably more suited to 30-06 or .300 Win Mag.

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,671 ✭✭✭Feisar


    The Berger 7mm 180gr VLD has a BC of 0.684.

    Note, my knowledge on the 7mm is purely academic, not counting a shot I had out of a lads .270 once.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    Also, has anyone any experience of them? ... for what I've heard are very accurate rifles. Cheers in advance lads.
    I have a Savage in 30-06, model 111.

    They are great shooters and come at a fair price. The 111 and the 110 both have the accutrigger, which beats my 700. However, the 111 has a synthetic stock remnant of the SPS. I guess this is why the gun is such a bargain in the states.

    What are you looking to do with it: target, hunting, or competition?

    In the States, Savage has a great name. With that said, I still shoot my 700's over the 111. No real reason though. I have never set them up side by side for a comparison. If interested, let me know and I will take them to the range.

    +1 for the accutrigger
    -1 for the stock
    +1 for the magazine

    If memory serves me correctly, I did not like something about the bolt. I'll head down to the safe later on and see if I can get an image. No real fault, just a preference for the 700 bolt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭Erk


    I recently go a Savage and find it to be a great rifle. Exactly what was describe from the man. Lovely crisp trigger which is my favourite. It's .308 with H&S precision stock. Great rifle. Very accurate to. Shot one shot on white piece of paper as i had no target or markers left them in the house and was not walking back :o Anyways i shot and then aimed where i shot i thought i missed the paper completely this is was a A4 piece of paper until i went up and seeing it went through the same hole only thing that gave it away was that the hole was a tiny bit bigger to the left by a mm at most. Great gun so far. Only tested it too 300 yards so far but was doing 2.5 inch groups at 300yards with a crosswind that was fairly strong with Fusion ammo 150gr SP and 200 was doing an 1 inch groups. You cannot go wrong with these guns :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Look at the date of the thread people.:D:rolleyes:
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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Aye, cheers for the enthusiastic input lads, but I ended up not getting a Savage in the end. :D Got a .25-06 Sako 75 for probably less money. Nice stumbling on deals like that! They are still very good rifles though, no argument.


  • Registered Users Posts: 224 ✭✭Erk


    Date would of being handy alright :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭Hibrion


    For anyone considering a Savage now: there is about a six month waiting period, unless your dealer has one in stock. The left handed model 11 and 111 are no longer available and I got a quote of 1,150 for a model 14. A great rifle, but since they are the same price as a tikka, I went with the tikka.


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