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Do you believe in A God?

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    #122
    OK-Cancel-Apply
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    Well then how would the 'god' have gotten where he is? Mistake?


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    #123
    krpc
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    OK-Cancel-Apply wrote: »
    Well then how would the 'god' have gotten where he is? Mistake?

    Where is he exactly? I've heard he has been MIA for like forever.


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    #124
    Heisenberg.
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    #125
    JC 2K3
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    np;db*

    *No Proof;Don't Believe - it could be the new "tl;dr"!

    square_igloo wrote: »
    I can't quite agree with this.
    Like where does all matter come from, if not created? The Big Bang happened due to some "initial condition" - how did that initial condition come about?
    How did God/this "higher power" come about?

    If you don't know or say "he/it just always existed", then this God/"higher power" doesn't answer anything and you're really just inventing some random "being" you can't explain anything about for no apparent reason at all.....


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    #126
    MooseJam
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    The Scientist wrote: »
    How do you know?
    That can never be proved either.

    newsflash ... it has been


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    #127
    token56
    Registered Users Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭token56


    I wonder how different the results of this poll would have been 15 or even 10 years ago.


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    #128
    Insect Overlord
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    JC 2K3 wrote: »
    np;db*

    *No Proof;Don't Believe - it could be the new "tl;dr"!

    QFT

    It's great how both tl;dr and np;db apply so nicely to this thread :)
    Well, they do for me anyway.


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    #129
    One Cold Hand
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    GOD - praying, mass, child abuse, paedophelia
    NO GOD - sex, drugs, rock and roll.

    No God wins, hands down.


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    #130
    One Cold Hand
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    Oh, as a Villa fan, there is one God I believe in.


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    #131
    taibhse
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    The idea of God came about thousands of years ago, before there was science proper as a way of explaining phenomena that wasn't understood at the time. Take a look back at religions of the past e.g. greek and roman gods. Storms at sea - must be a god, the sun - must be a god etc. People also had no technology and a higher mortality rate so would subscribe to these gods to help with the harvest or fertility or ask that someone wouldn't be killed in battle.

    The ones in power could wield this belief in a higher power over the mass population to control them and keep them in their place, to enforce rules. Most religions for example have agendas and are based on patriarchical teachings. Just have a look at the Bible where it explicitly says men are better than women, well of course it does as that was the status quo of the time, or in islam where men can have more than one wife.

    We no longer believe in the gods of roman, greek or celtic eras, yet people still believe in the judao christian god that took its place. Today we have science to explain the world around us and just because we don't understand everything now doesn't mean 'oh it must be god then'. Our knowledge just hasn't taken us that far yet but that's not to say it won't. Just look how far we have come in the past 500 years.


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    #132
    devereux08
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    not a chance


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    #133
    Silenceisbliss
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    interestingly enough, most of the people in Central Mental are there because they worship the devil (my sister-psychologist, and neighbour-GP) have told me this. worship god however and your untouchable. explain how this is fair.

    Im just waiting for the LHC to put all you gullible fools to shame....mwa hahahaha


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    #134
    brendansmith
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    Silenceisbliss wrote: »
    interestingly enough, most of the people in Central Mental are there because they worship the devil (my sister-psychologist, and neighbour-GP) have told me this. worship god however and your untouchable. explain how this is fair.

    Im just waiting for the LHC to put all you gullible fools to shame....mwa hahahaha


    Stories please!


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    #135
    Silenceisbliss
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    brendansmith wrote: »
    Stories please!

    stories?

    well basically what ive heard is that most of the people there are convinced that they are the devil or that they worship the devil. no massive details im afraid.


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    #136
    brendansmith
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    Silenceisbliss wrote: »
    stories?

    well basically what ive heard is that most of the people there are convinced that they are the devil or that they worship the devil. no massive details im afraid.

    There is no god anymore.


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    #137
    mardybumbum
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    brendansmith wrote: »
    There is no god anymore.

    What happened to him? :eek:


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    #138
    philologos
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    I personally believe in the Abrahamic God (of Judaism and later Christianity). I believe in Christianity and everything that is attached to it. I'm not going to say that it is easy, but it has certainly changed my life. That phrase might be a bit clichéd but it's true.


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    #139
    all the stars
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    I believe in the healing power of chips. :D
    And chocolate ;)

    does it count if i believe i am going to be god?


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    #140
    djpbarry
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    The Scientist wrote: »
    How do you know?
    That can never be proved either.
    There is a whole lot of evidence to support the theory.


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    #141
    10goto20
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    square_igloo wrote: »
    Yes I do believe in a God. I don't think there's a nice old man with a beard living in the sky but I do believe that there is a higher power out there somewhere.

    I hate this argument. If you don't believe in an old man with a beard sitting in the clouds then I'm sorry but you don't believe in God. Find a new word for your made up higher power.


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    #142
    djpbarry
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    10goto20 wrote: »
    If you don't believe in an old man with a beard sitting in the clouds then I'm sorry but you don't believe in God. Find a new word for your made up higher power.
    Yeah, because God's not "made up"; he's totally factual. So factual that there isn't a shred of evidence that he exists. You gotta admire his commitment to his own factual existence, which is totally not made up by men to keep people in their place or anything like that. Nope; he's the complete, 100%, entirely non-fictional real deal.


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    #143
    Adam
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    10goto20 wrote: »
    I hate this argument. If you don't believe in an old man with a beard sitting in the clouds then I'm sorry but you don't believe in God. Find a new word for your made up higher power.
    lol new troll \o/


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    #144
    10goto20
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    djpbarry wrote: »
    Yeah, because God's not "made up"; he's totally factual. So factual that there isn't a shred of evidence that he exists. You gotta admire his commitment to his own factual existence, which is totally not made up by men to keep people in their place or anything like that. Nope; he's the complete, 100%, entirely non-fictional real deal.

    Did I say he was factual? Just to clarify, I'm 100% athiest and have been since I was about 6 years old, which is about the mental age you need to be to figure out its all BS.

    My point was if you don't believe in the God in the classical sense then you can't just make up a new type of God to fit your needs.


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    #145
    Heisenberg.
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    #146
    Adam
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    10goto20 wrote: »
    Did I say he was factual? Just to clarify, I'm 100% athiest and have been since I was about 6 years old, which is about the mental age you need to be to figure out its all BS.

    My point was if you don't believe in the God in the classical sense then you can't just make up a new type of God to fit your needs.
    wai?


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    #147
    Adam
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    The Scientist wrote: »
    Sure there is.
    There's a whole lot of evidence to prove that a God exists also.

    ok now i like you, but i have to ask...wtf?? what evidence?


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    #148
    philologos
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    10goto20 wrote: »
    I hate this argument. If you don't believe in an old man with a beard sitting in the clouds then I'm sorry but you don't believe in God. Find a new word for your made up higher power.

    I don't believe in an old man sitting in the clouds because that is clearly not the image of God that is put forward in the Bible. God is everywhere and in everything, God is a spirit nature, not a physical human being. However, it is true that God can manifest Himself in various forms including through the Son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Spirit which Christians feel to this day. So no, rather you should redefine what you think Christians believe God to be really.


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    #149
    Heisenberg.
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    #150
    Adam
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    The Scientist wrote: »
    HE JUST CHANGED MY AVATAR FROM HOLLY VALANCE TO A PIC OF HIS FACE!

    Hard Proof he exists. Now desist from your questioning, repent and rejoice or you will suffer eternal damnation in the fiery pits OF HELLLLLLLLLL!
    wow :eek:

    i'm still not convinced.


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    #151
    Wagon
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    I believe in god but not religion.


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