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planning law

  • 18-09-2008 1:18am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 37


    We have an old stone house. one of its sheds was converted into a bathroom. We now want to build small extension (under the 40sqm limit) My question is will we count area of bathroom in 40mq m.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,321 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    The bathroom will be part of the 40 sq. metres so you need to include that. Strictly speaking the conversion of a shed to a bathroom isnt exempted development.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Mallini


    I agree with Muffler on the out-building conversion. The following is taken from a local authority website in relation to exempt development:

    "If the house has been extended previously, the floor area of that extension or any extension constructed after 1st October 1964 taken together with the floor area of the proposed extension shall not exceed 40 square meters"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 tapjlk6


    Thank you for your replys.
    Another question for you if we look for planning permission to build new bathroom will the Co Co make us put in modern septic tank system


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,863 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    tapjlk6 wrote: »
    Thank you for your replys.
    Another question for you if we look for planning permission to build new bathroom will the Co Co make us put in modern septic tank system

    depends..... its definitely a possibility anyway...

    if you are providing more bedrooms than the existing dwelling has, then its possible the council will look for certification that the existing treatment system can take the new loading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,321 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    tapjlk6 wrote: »
    Thank you for your replys.
    Another question for you if we look for planning permission to build new bathroom will the Co Co make us put in modern septic tank system
    As stated by syd its a strong possibility and it will be dependent on the increased number of bathrooms and bedrooms.

    if its just a case of upgrading the bathroom, changing another room to a bathroom and getting rid of the old one or maybe adding 1 en suite then it should be OK. But if you are increasing the number of bedrooms and/or bathrooms then they will most likely look at it from the point of view of you increasing the usage of the tank and they will look for an assessment be carried out to see if the existing arrangements are capable of coping with the additional loading.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭Slig


    And at the end of the day if they do request a new treatment system then it will probably be required. If the current system doesnt meet requirements then its causing pollution and could result in your garden turning to mush, bad smells etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 tapjlk6


    We are moving bathroom, at the moment it is off the kitchen. We want to make present bathroom part of the kitchen and build new bathroom beside bedrooms.
    The septic tank was built in 1970's and is working perfectly, just thought council's were trying to push for puro-flow systems (are they expensive?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭Slig


    Generally they are, most extensions I have done to existing older houses have had that condition attached, even if there is no new bathroom.
    Septic tanks dont really work, what comes out is still effluent and it doesnt take a genius to realise that this could be the cause of most of our water problems in this country.


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