Would You Vote for Present Goverment Again

heyjude

b.ie curious wrote: »

Given the relative bargaining positions, the government actually did quite well. Pay rises that would meet inflation were inevitable.

And the job losses that will result from pay rises that meet inflation are also inevitable, as our inflation rate is considerably higher than the eurozone average. The big problem is that in the pay talks, the employers are represented by big business, while the small and medium employers that are struggling badly were not represented and almost certainly don't regard the resulting pay deal as a 'good deal'.

b.ie curious wrote: »

The government can 'lead' as much as it wants, but it is not like they are omnipotent overlords who can just command inflation to stay put or create jobs out of thin air. Rather, they are actors in the economy. The unions and the employers are both legitimate power centres, and neither can be bullied or browbeaten into submission.

Most union members work in the public sector, so they are in a pretty strong position to demand an inflation proofed pay deal as most of their jobs are secure. Its a pretty safe bet that most job losses this year will be in the non-union private sector. The government has to be strong enough to realise this and do something to help struggling businesses by helping to control wage demands, but like most other opportunities this one was missed too.

As for other posters saying that they would support the current government because the alternative is worse, well that's hardly a ringing endorsement ! I just don't see how the opposition could be worse than a government that has blown the proceeeds of a boom and then spent the whole summer sitting on their hands rather than dealing with the impending recession and deterioration in the public finances.

Crania

BroomBurner wrote: »

Nope. Though I'm not sure who I would vote for. If there was a Social Democrat party, with policies akin to the Scandinavian countries, I'd vote for them. A Social Democrat country with <common sense> Green leanings.

That's exactly what I'd go for. High taxes along with a welfare state-free education and health at the point of use.

I think some kind of merger between the Greens and Labour would be good. It would create a larger party that may attract broader support and this would create a strong thrid party that would actually be able to challenge Twiddle-dum and twiddle-dee. Both of those parties have quite similar policies anyway so I really think a Red-Green Alliance would work.

We need a strong political party to break the mould of the boring, Civil War politics of FF and FG.

fredzer

LeahBaby wrote: »

I see no "i'm too good looking to care" option..

I kid i Kid..

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I didn't vote for FF last time and won't next time, they are making a complete hash of their term so far. I’m sick of Cowen and co. passing rubbish laws to combat alcohol abuse, when everybody that actually goes out to socialize knows they wont work. Half two closing times aren't the answer here nor is closing off licenses’ at 10, think if you opened them at ten you would have less kids drinking.

These lads are still on f**kin' holiday and the rest of the world is trying to avoid financial melt down. They are so far detached from reality that it's scary. Smug arrogant chancers should be dragged out of Leinster House and beaten.:mad:

Crann na Beatha

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Orange69

One of the reasons that i left Ireland (that dreadful rock) was because of the utter incompetence of the government.. I am actually embarrassed to be Irish when i see these bunch of clowns in action.. To have Tolerated their moronic antics for so long really says alot about Ireland..

The sad fact is that the majority of Irish people are stupid and cant see the bigger picture..

sdanseo

I wouldn't vote for FF again. It was a straight choice last time between allegedly corrupt and downright incompetent. I voted for the former.

The present government though has become a sham, filled with incumbents who have been allowed to get far too comfortable in their cushy jobs. Putting a solicitor whose father was a crook [/libel] into a finance post was ludicrous and ironic on so many levels. At least the FGers would have something to prove and might well make quite a good job of it if only for a few years. A nice Labour or other coalition (not Greens, power has got them more excited than porn could ever hope to) to keep them in check wouldn't hurt either.

Anyone though, who votes for their TD just because he fixes the local drain and is nice to them for a week before polling day, should be publicly shot flogged and banned from voting until they've done a degree in politics.

Captain Slow IRL

I didn't vote for them in the first place. :mad:
The greens'll never get into power again!