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Penalty Points

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  • 18-09-2008 8:25pm
    #1
    Mini
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    question - I have just received a notice for two penalty points for doing 69 in a 50.

    here is my question - it is not a road that I really use and i haven't been on since so I wouldn't have been aware of the speed unlimit, not unless there was road signs, which I can only assume there wasn't as I never speed. ... ever.

    Do I have any comeback on this or is just a fair cop?

    thanks


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    Turner
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    Im sorry to say and every judge will say this...

    "Ignorance to the law is no defence"

    I dont agree with it most of the time.


    In my opinion and it is really only my opinion if you dont know the speed limit on the road you are driving on you shouldnt really be driving.


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    Alanstrainor
    Registered Users Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    You got a fine for driving 69km/h in a 50km/h zone. I dont see how you expect to get out of this? Just because you dont know the road, or didn't see the road signs that day?


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    Savman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    My god, a speeder :eek:
    To the gallows.


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    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    So it must surely have been either in a built up area or major roadworks?


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    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,927 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Go look for the signs, if they're there - not a chance in hell of getting off for not knowing the limit.

    If they're not - almost certainly be thrown out when it comes to court cause of that.


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    geoff29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 239 ✭✭geoff29


    Mini wrote: »
    Hi all,

    question - I have just received a notice for two penalty points for doing 69 in a 50.

    here is my question - it is not a road that I really use and i haven't been on since so I wouldn't have been aware of the speed unlimit, not unless there was road signs, which I can only assume there wasn't as I never speed. ... ever.

    Do I have any comeback on this or is just a fair cop?

    thanks

    Hi OP, prob is - I think that the general speed limit on such roads is 50 km/h, even if no sign-posts. At least I think that would be the case against you. Hard luck though.


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    geoff29 wrote: »
    Hi OP, prob is - I think that the general speed limit on such roads is 50 km/h, even if no sign-posts. At least I think that would be the case against you. Hard luck though.


    There is no general speed limit anymore - it was done away with when we changed to km/h. Up to then, general limit was 60mph and 30mph urban.

    However, new rules means each road has to be evaluated and signed appropriately (sic..)


    As for OP comment
    it is not a road that I really use and i haven't been on since so I wouldn't have been aware of the speed unlimit, not unless there was road signs, which I can only assume there wasn't as I never speed.
    ...you might not get points for your speeding.........but pick up points for driving 'without due care and attention' !! :p

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    Frisbee
    Registered Users Posts: 23,568 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    This is kinda odd.
    I just got a letter with two points for doing 69 in a 50 zone aswell.
    While it is a road I use fairly regularly its a road that I know there is usually Gardaí camped out on so i wouldnt go faster that the speed limit on it...

    Was the Dundrum bypass btw, silly road to have at 50km/h... :p

    EDIT: Not trying to get out of it, if I was doing the bones of 70 in a 50 its my own fault, but if anyone else has gottenb a wierd PP notice id like to hear about it...


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    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    If you can prove that the Garda in question was not wearing his hat on at the time of the offence there is a good chance of getting the case dismissed in court.


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    BrianD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    The Dundrum bypass is signed though the speed signage by the county council for that area is appalling ... just look at the N11.

    Bit of a popular spot for the speed cams now.


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    knird evol
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Mini wrote: »
    Hi all,

    question - I have just received a notice for two penalty points for doing 69 in a 50.

    Do I have any comeback on this or is just a fair cop?

    thanks

    :)

    Don't mind them penalty points. Their all a PR stunt by the govt and tr,it doesnt exist. You keep bombing along you crazy speed merchant. You won't keep up with me though.


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