drinking water (Sodium fluoride)

conceited

I was reading up on this and it seems we are slowly getting poisoned.
Is this true?

Smudgeyboy

Are you for real? Do you have any idea what kind of organisation that would involve?

Why on earth would someone do that to us?

You'd want to lay off the whacky backy!!



Haha, I believe fluoride is used to block the function of our pineal gland, hugely important to your 'third eye' and evolution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enaewwcajzY

^I havent seen that video, I've looked into it though.

Oh no, looked into it more, the Government is just minding your teeth

Smudgeyboy

More on fluoride and the pineal gland

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2006/12/30/fluoride_accumulates_in_pineal_gland.htm

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/


Your pineal gland produces DMT when you sleep and when you die. You can extract DMT from certain plants and smoke it/eat it also.

This connects you with the 'machine' of our universe, this is how people can predict things in their dreams. Terrence McKenna speaks very well about this.

Stopping people from knowing this, and other information on Shamanic natural substances is Number 1 in secret society's agenda. They are scared of a fully conscious public.

AIR-AUSSIE

conceited wrote: »

I was reading up on this and it seems we are slowly getting poisoned.
Is this true?

Perhaps technically you could say we are being poisoned - I believe large intakes of Flouride can lead to disease.

However the amounts in drinking water are so small that all they do is protect our teeth. Although you prob could find a few scientists that would say otherwise.

R0C0

Either way, its medicating the entire population without our permission. AFAIK Ireland is the only country in the world 100% flouridated. There is no definitive scientific consensus on it, despite what some here will say.

Diogenes

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Perhaps technically you could say we are being poisoned - I believe large intakes of Flouride can lead to disease.

However the amounts in drinking water are so small that all they do is protect our teeth. Although you prob could find a few scientists that would say otherwise.

Fluoridation has been stopped in several Western Countries. Perhaps you could point out which diseases Fluoride cause, and explain why there aren't spikes in countries with Fluoridation, while countries who have discontinued Fluoridation would have a corresponding drop since they stopped putting it in the water.

AIR-AUSSIE

Diogenes wrote: »

Fluoridation has been stopped in several Western Countries. Perhaps you could point out which diseases Fluoride cause, and explain why there aren't spikes in countries with Fluoridation, while countries who have discontinued Fluoridation would have a corresponding drop since they stopped putting it in the water.

Exactly what does does that question mean?
I ain't trying to fuel some Fluoridation conspiracy was just saying what I know - do your own research; you seem to enjoy it.

Diogenes

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Exactly what does does that question mean?

You claim Fluoridation causes diseases, I simply asked you to name what these diseases are.

I ain't trying to fuel some Fluoridation conspiracy

I would think that by claiming fluoridation causes diseases you are doing precisely what you claim you "ain't trying" to do.

was just saying what I know - do your own research; you seem to enjoy it.

You made the claim, the onus is on you to support, not to wave me away and demand I check it out myself.

AIR-AUSSIE

Diogenes wrote: »

You claim Fluoridation causes diseases, I simply asked you to name what these diseases are.



I would think that by claiming fluoridation causes diseases you are doing precisely what you claim you "ain't trying" to do.



You made the claim, the onus is on you to support, not to wave me away and demand I check it out myself.

Did I say it was a Conspiacy?? When pple started putting fluorine in water it was before they knew that fluorine at certain concentrations can cause such things as reduced immunity along with others. I never said theres a conspiracy relating to authorties putting fluorine in to 'kill off the populus' or whatever the potential conspiracy.

American Water Authority reduced the max conc of fluorine from 4mg / L to 1mg / L. And most countries who've stopped Fluoridation have not noticed an increase in cavities.

Deadly Bone Cancer

http://www.freedrinkingwater.com/water_health/health1/1-flouridation-bone-cancer-risks-young-boys.htm

R0C0

The EPA have linked Fluoride to Osteoporosis and Arthritis.

Hip fractures... There have been 5 epidemiological studies done since 1990, in three different countries, all showing a higher increase in hip fractures in fluoridated communities.

Cancer.. Fluoride was found to be an equivocal carcinogen by the National Cancer Institute Toxicological Program. Further studies by the New Jersey Department of Health have now confirmed a 6.9 fold increase in bone cancer in young males.

F.D.A scientists reported a close correlation between decreasing total fertility rates in women between ages of 10 and 49, and increasing fluoride levels. They also reported that a review of all of the animal studies done to date shows that fluoride adversely affects fertility in most animal species.

Brain damage.. Fluoride lowers the intelligence capacity of humans, with children, again, especially susceptible to early fluoride toxicity. IQ levels were significantly lower than children not exposed to fluorides in all age groups listed. Further studies proving the neurotoxicity of fluoride in rats have also been conducted by Dr. Phyllis Mullinex. In 1995 Mullenix and co-workers showed that rats given fluoride in drinking water at levels that give rise to plasma levels fluoride concentrations in humans, suffer neurotoxic effects that vary according to when the rats were given the fluoiride - as adult animals, as young animals, or thorugh the placenta before birth. Those exposed before birth were born hyperactive and remained so throughout their lives. Thoses exposed as young animals displayed depressed activity.

Thyroid disorder.. over 150 symptoms and associations can be identified in hypothyroidism. Almost all correlate with known symptoms of fluoride poisoning.

Literally thousands of well repected doctors, scientists and dentists have called for an end to fluoridation. 98% of western Europe is Fluoride free. Many studies have shown it to be completely inaffective, and dangerous.

Why then, do people still advocate its use??

bonkey

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

When pple started putting fluorine in water it was before they knew that fluorine at certain concentrations can cause such things as reduced immunity along with others.

Fluorine <> Fluoride.

American Water Authority reduced the max conc of fluorine from 4mg / L to 1mg / L. And most countries who've stopped Fluoridation have not noticed an increase in cavities.

The first one is a perfectly reasonable point. The second one...I'm uncertain as to which countries you're referring to and and when they stopped fluoridation. Could you elaborate?


Its also worth noting that fluoridation programs sometimes involve removing excess naturally-occurring fluorides from water. I'm somewhat surprised that the people who claim to be expressing concern about addition of fluoride don't go out of their way to stress that they completely and totally support governments removing fluoride from water-supplies.

AIR-AUSSIE

bonkey wrote: »

Fluorine <> Fluoride.


The first one is a perfectly reasonable point. The second one...I'm uncertain as to which countries you're referring to and and when they stopped fluoridation. Could you elaborate?


Its also worth noting that fluoridation programs sometimes involve removing excess naturally-occurring fluorides from water. I'm somewhat surprised that the people who claim to be expressing concern about addition of fluoride don't go out of their way to stress that they completely and totally support governments removing fluoride from water-supplies.

Yes this is correct, but in any of my posts have I said there was a hidden agenda of governments putting Sodium Fluoride in drinking water?

There has been various amounts of research into the fact that where countries have stopped the addition of Sodium Fluoride to drinking water, there was no evidence that this in fact increased the number of cavities the population got. That in fact addition of Fluorides did not have any effect on the dental health of the population that drunk the tap water in question.

bonkey

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

There has been various amounts of research into the fact that where countries have stopped the addition of Sodium Fluoride to drinking water,there was no evidence that this in fact increased the number of cavities the population got.

You said this before, and I asked if you could tell us which countries they were and when it happened. Re-stating the claim doesn't answer those questions.

I'm not saying you're wrong...I'm saying that I'd like to know more. If you can't tell me the countries, and when it happened, maybe you could point me at the research itself, so I can read it for myself?

Toiletroll

How can we get rid of this crap?

I grew up on a mountain where we only drank well water! Totally natural.

Back in primary school we were tested as a class and a few of us were prescribed some little pink flouride tablets.

Now WTF is that about? I am going to investigate this further to see wtf I was given those tablets for

djpbarry

Toiletroll wrote: »

How can we get rid of this crap?

I grew up on a mountain where we only drank well water! Totally natural.

The "crap" you refer to (fluorides?) was most likely present in the well water you were drinking.

Toiletroll

djpbarry wrote: »

The "crap" you refer to (fluorides?) was most likely present in the well water you were drinking.

The well has been tested and I had to take these pink pills due to the lack of flouride / flourine (whatever its called) I only took them for a couple of months then stopped! Thankfully!

bonkey

Toiletroll wrote: »

The well has been tested and I had to take these pink pills due to the lack of flouride / flourine (whatever its called) I only took them for a couple of months then stopped! Thankfully!

Y'know...call me skeptical...but I have to wonder at just how you can be informed enough to be thankful about stopping something you don't even know the name of.

Fluorine and fluoride are completely different chemicals.

AIR-AUSSIE

Fluorine is the element, Fluorides are made when Fluorine reacts with another element, e.g. Sodium Fluoride (the chemical usually added to water).

He isn't the only one to make this mistake.

bonkey

AIR-AUSSIE wrote: »

Fluorine is the element, Fluorides are made when Fluorine reacts with another element, e.g. Sodium Fluoride (the chemical usually added to water).

He isn't the only one to make this mistake.

He (unlike you, some posts back) didn't misname it. He didn't make a mistake. He offered both terms and indicated a lack of certainty (at best) as to which is the relevant one.

Robin119

Diogenes wrote: »

Fluoridation has been stopped in several Western Countries. Perhaps you could point out which diseases Fluoride cause, and explain why there aren't spikes in countries with Fluoridation, while countries who have discontinued Fluoridation would have a corresponding drop since they stopped putting it in the water.

But I heard somewhere that Fluoridation of drinking water helps is reducing tooth decay...Is that true?
________________
Atmospheric Water

Mahatma coat

I had a theory about this,

Munitions


in the event of a war the nations would be left to fend for itself, the handiest way to mass produce ammonia is through Piss, have a couple of plants at theseweage treatment centre extracting the urine and processing it to make gunpowder

does the adition of flouride make our urine a more 'weapons grade' product?

espinolman

When i was very young i used to only drink well water and nothing else , i would never drink tea or anything like that and i remember when we used go to my aunty in the town and drink a glass of her tap water , i would get dizzy after drinking it and this happened every time i drank water from an urban area.

Toiletroll

espinolman wrote: »

When i was very young i used to only drink well water and nothing else , i would never drink tea or anything like that and i remember when we used go to my aunty in the town and drink a glass of her tap water , i would get dizzy after drinking it and this happened every time i drank water from an urban area.

I have a similar background. Unfortunately I am now used to the poisining...

I will return to be off the grid within months as broadband is now available on top of my home mountain Sweet!

nyarlothothep

Do you have a powerful third eye? Can you predict the future/interact with the cosmic gaia net? (serious question)

thecommander

Toiletroll wrote: »

Back in primary school we were tested as a class and a few of us were prescribed some little pink flouride tablets.

You sure they weren't those pill that you took that showed if you were brushing correctly? The pink/red dye stuck to the plaque.

Ciaran500

Mahatma coat wrote: »

does the adition of flouride make our urine a more 'weapons grade' product?

LOL, thank you.

Diabhal Beag

Don't come to Galway. The NWO are based here, Bin Ladens here too, Anti-christ says hi and people piss in the water (Me mostly).

Oh the conformity

Aye Matey!

I've come across this excerpt online:

"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930`s, Hitler and the German Nazi`s envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual`s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children`s teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years` research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically." CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.


Received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist

Interesting if not entirely madcap.

Kernel

Toiletroll wrote: »

I have a similar background. Unfortunately I am now used to the poisining...

I will return to be off the grid within months as broadband is now available on top of my home mountain Sweet!

Not exactly off the grid if you're still using broadband mate! Can you get a mobile phone to work up there too? Very hard to escape the grid....

WhaLofShi

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I had a theory about this,

Munitions


in the event of a war the nations would be left to fend for itself, the handiest way to mass produce ammonia is through Piss, have a couple of plants at theseweage treatment centre extracting the urine and processing it to make gunpowder

does the adition of flouride make our urine a more 'weapons grade' product?

:D:D

Watch out for Iran, I hear they're getting their people to piss into jars and deliver it directly to a central warehouse for processing.

WhaLofShi

Kernel wrote: »

Not exactly off the grid if you're still using broadband mate! Can you get a mobile phone to work up there too? Very hard to escape the grid....the grid will always find you

Speaking of "off the grid", where's Run to da Hills? Must be 3 days since he posted. Have they finally gotten to him?

Kernel

WhaLofShi wrote: »

Speaking of "off the grid", where's Run to da Hills? Must be 3 days since he posted. Have they finally gotten to him?

Yeah, I hear that Diogenes and King Mob sent in their reports detailing how the counter intelligence of calling him a crazy loon and acting all skeptical hasn't dissuaded his truth seeking. As a result, he has been marked for termination. We can only hope that RTDH is spared and sent for re-education instead.

Aye Matey!

Kernel wrote: »

Diogenes and King Mob sent in their reports detailing how the counter intelligence of calling him a crazy loon and acting all skeptical hasn't dissuaded his truth seeking.

espinolman

It is explained very well here what fluoridated water is about
"It weakens your will, takes away the capacity for free and creative thought, and makes you a slave to the state" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwKMxwKQjR4

Aye Matey!

espinolman wrote: »

It is explained very well here what fluoridated water is about
"It weakens your will, takes away the capacity for free and creative thought, and makes you a slave to the state" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwKMxwKQjR4

A fair amount of speculation and conflict exists surrounding the discussions pertaining to fluoridation which seem to be bereft of any concurrence between CT enthusiasts and skeptics. The foremost trepidation seems to be a lack of credible information sources and generally unsubstantiated and sensationalized claims. I’ve presented what one Dr. Osmunson hopes to be a series of dispassionate scientific facts that require no leap of faith or reason. The resultant assumptions and contextual interpretation I leave to you guys…

Source:
Dr. Bill Osmunson DDS MPH is a General and Cosmetic Dentist who boasts tenure of over thirty years and a previous completion of a Masters in Public Health, in Nutrition and Health Education. The legitimacy of his practice can be researched here straight from the horse’s mouth: http://www.smilesofbellevue.com/

Stance:
Through the first twenty-five years of Dr. Osmunson’s practice he ‘aggressively promoted’ water fluoridation and academically trusted its benefits based on essentials and statistical particulars available to him. It was only upon his own upon callous researching of the relevant government agencies, reports and studies that he began to view water fluoridation ‘as a problem’.

Facts Presented:
(Please note that Dr. Osmunson’s practice resides in the United States and all submitted statistical data is proprietary to the water fluoridation system of the United States unless otherwise indicated. Particulars concerning chemical compositions and amounts, product labeling and packaging, implementation dates and cross analysis public health dates are subjective only to but possibly not limited to the United States)

FACT 1: It is customary for a tube of toothpaste to disclose ‘drug facts’ on its back. Furthermore if accidently orally ingested the label advises to contact the Poison Control Centre. The minimal amount of ingested paste required to warrant the aforementioned label is what’s referred to as a ‘pea sized’ amount for children under an age that ranges from six seven years.

FACT 2: A ‘pea sized’ amount of paste contains approximately 0.25 mg of Fluoride. The same amount of Fluoride can be found in 8 ounces of water which incidentally is enough liquid to fill a small glass.

FACT 3: The American Dental Association and Centre for Disease Control makes the following statement regarding infants and the constituent composites of prepared baby formula : “If using a product that needs to be reconstituted, parents and caregivers should consider using water that has no or levels of fluoride”. The parts per billion fluoride concentration of fluoridated water (1000 PPB) is two hundred and fifty times more concentrated times that of breast milk (4).

FACT 4: Dental Fluorosis (the formation of white and brown spots on teeth) is caused by frequent ingestion of Fluoride during the development years (birth to eight years). The body’s absorption of fluoride is not limited to a biochemical mechanism alone in which the effects of excessively ingested fluoride are localized to the teeth or mouth area in general. An infant, for example, will begin to absorb fluoride through its skin if left too long in a bath of fluoridated water.

FACT 5: A cross examination of data provided by the World Health Organization spanning from 1971 to 2000 reveals that countries average amount of tooth decay has decreased by same amount in countries with or without fluoridated water.

Conclusion 1: Following simple logic the public health warning of FACT 1 based on the quantitative equation of FACT 2 implies that a child under minimum age of six and maximum age of seven should contact the Poison Control centre upon orally ingesting a glass of water.

Conclusion 2: The contravention of the official recommendation of FACT 3 which is commonplace implies the dangerous physical harming of infants.

Conclusion 3: FACT 4 implies that the dental fluorosis is but a physically obvious effect and does not negate the fact that other facets of the human system such as the skeletal system and various organic sub-systems are affected.

Conclusion4: FACT 5 implies there are little next to no significant benefits of fluoridated water in terms of dental hygiene and health.

mysterious

Many countries in Europe don't use Flouridizatoin, it doesnt seem to show higher rates of tooth decay of gum disease. Infact Most Europeans have better teeth than us. We are only to begin to catch up in looking after our teeth.

I also believe that mercury and Flouride is put into our food and water to dumb us down. Mercury is get them when they are born, and flouride is get them while they are moving around. Flouride is also claimed to lower your IQ by 20%

That I can see already especially showing how ignorant we Westerners have become to so many simple facts of life. We are so ignorant it's not even funny. Also many new diesases are forming. Autism is meant to be linked with Mercury since all newborns are getting Mercury once born. Autism is a fast rising phenominon.

I boil my water, to get the chlorine out. I'm buying a filter to get rid of the flouride.

• Also try ask for non mercury fillings if possible
• Boil water
• Use a britta filter
• Don't buy advertised food on T.V most of it is poison or junk.
• Try not to eat any food with the roya family label
• Eat balanced diet (eat less red meat)
• try not to eat processed food as much as possible
• Drink herbal teas rather than caffiene tea.

These are some things that I do. I've noticed vast improvement;)
Infact My last IQ test was raised by 10. So don't know if that means any significance. My energy levels are higher and I am more aware of my third eye. My intution is as good as it was when i was 7 years old.

Government's hate me:D

mysterious

espinolman wrote: »

It is explained very well here what fluoridated water is about
"It weakens your will, takes away the capacity for free and creative thought, and makes you a slave to the state" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwKMxwKQjR4

It's a real startling fact.
Most people don't realise
How much minerals, oils, smells, tastes of certain foods, additives, so on so forth has an enormous effect on our spirtual/mental/physical health

It doesnt take any rocket scientist to work that out.
I.e if you eat toxins, it will effect you negatively
I.ie If you eat nutrients it will effect you positively.

It is a real concern in today's world with this method of control. In my eyes, the people have become even powerless and less willed as we used too.


Do you think we as people would overthrow a governemtn today like did in the past, Most defenately not.

The only way to succeed and pass this ****, is to be aware and change. Your a step ahead of them. Governments are fools anyway. They are arrogant and think they can find further ways to control the people. But as history happens over and over, they will fail. Though the majority will be trapped into this slavery.

It isn't conspiracy anymore.

time lord

I work for a local authoriy in this area. The fluride we add is a by product of some industrial process from Holland or the Netherlands.(nice and cheap) The ammount added is self regulated by a pump. It has been known to pump in a serious ammount into the system by mistake.. this is ireland afterall. The fluride you ingest never leaves your body. It accumalates more and more. A large section of the county I work in dont get the fluride unbeknown to them and no dentists or people have complained yet. This is a years old situation. A report I think called the "baker" report was available from the Green party on this issue. In my opinion is it harmful? Over 3score and ten years probably not. Would I take it out if I could? yes. Will I give fluride toothpaste to my kids before they can brush properly? not on your life.

Aye Matey!

time lord wrote: »

I work for a local authoriy in this area. The fluride we add is a by product of some industrial process from Holland or the Netherlands.(nice and cheap) The ammount added is self regulated by a pump. It has been known to pump in a serious ammount into the system by mistake.. this is ireland afterall. The fluride you ingest never leaves your body. It accumalates more and more. A large section of the county I work in dont get the fluride unbeknown to them and no dentists or people have complained yet. This is a years old situation. A report I think called the "baker" report was available from the Green party on this issue. In my opinion is it harmful? Over 3score and ten years probably not. Would I take it out if I could? yes. Will I give fluride toothpaste to my kids before they can brush properly? not on your life.

But will you let them drink unfiltered water?

Are there any major activist / semi-political groups in Ireland manouvering against this (besides the GP)?

tony 2 tone

mysterious wrote: »

Many countries in Europe don't use Flouridizatoin, it doesnt seem to show higher rates of tooth decay of gum disease. Infact Most Europeans have better teeth than us. We are only to begin to catch up in looking after our teeth.

I also believe that mercury and Flouride is put into our food and water to dumb us down. Mercury is get them when they are born, and flouride is get them while they are moving around. Flouride is also claimed to lower your IQ by 20%

That I can see already especially showing how ignorant we Westerners have become to so many simple facts of life. We are so ignorant it's not even funny. Also many new diesases are forming. Autism is meant to be linked with Mercury since all newborns are getting Mercury once born. Autism is a fast rising phenominon.

I boil my water, to get the chlorine out. I'm buying a filter to get rid of the flouride.

• Also try ask for non mercury fillings if possible
• Boil water
• Use a britta filter
• Don't buy advertised food on T.V most of it is poison or junk.
• Try not to eat any food with the roya family label
• Eat balanced diet (eat less red meat)
• try not to eat processed food as much as possible
• Drink herbal teas rather than caffiene tea.

These are some things that I do. I've noticed vast improvement;)
Infact My last IQ test was raised by 10. So don't know if that means any significance. My energy levels are higher and I am more aware of my third eye. My intution is as good as it was when i was 7 years old.

Government's hate me:D

Just a couple of things, it's FLUORIDE and IN FACT. Only the fact you claim your IQ has risen, it wouldn't bother me as much.

espinolman

time lord wrote: »

The fluride we add is a by product of some industrial process from Holland or the Netherlands.(nice and cheap)

It is industrial waste.

time lord wrote: »

The ammount added is self regulated by a pump. It has been known to pump in a serious ammount into the system by mistake.. this is ireland afterall.

I was reading in the Local Planet that it contains many toxic contaminants such as lead , arsenic , chromium and uranium and all of these are carcinogenic or neuro-toxic. Here:
http://localplanet.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=213&Itemid=58

bonkey

tony 2 tone wrote:

ust a couple of things, it's FLUORIDE and IN FACT.

This isn't the Spell Czechs forum.

Mahatma coat

espinolman wrote: »

It is industrial waste.

Is It Industrial waste tho? there are a lot of products that are Industrial Byproducts, or manufactured from what would have initially been seen as a waste element of a parent process, take MDF or Plywood, they are not Industrial waste, but they are made from sawdust and veneer respectivley which in and of itself is a waste product of the milling process.

I was reading in the Local Planet that it contains many toxic contaminants such as lead , arsenic , chromium and uranium and all of these are carcinogenic or neuro-toxic.

Linkey???







That said I'm not a fan of Fluoride meself, then I wouldnt be a fan of chlorine in the water either tho

bonkey

mysterious wrote: »

I boil my water, to get the chlorine out.

Good for you. You do know that it doesn't actually work, right?

Infact My last IQ test was raised by 10.

Which would be more-or-less within the margin of error that an IQ test would be expected to produce in someone of your age (which is within a year of 23, unless you told fibs on the 911 thread about your age in 2001)...but hey...

My energy levels are higher

An awful lot of the points you've made in that list are related to basic, dietary recommendations. Balanced diet, less processed food, less/no caffeine...

Hey...if it takes belief in a conspiracy theory for someone to eat healthier...I say "keep believing".

I would, of course, ask why you're buying into the health recommendations from government-paid scientists though

Government's hate me:D

Why?

You're doing mostly what their nutritionists tell you to do. That you're doing it because someone else told you to doesn't matter one whit to them. And, to boot, by buying filters and boiling your water, you're incurring additional costs, supporting Big Business!

If anything, you're the perfect citizen for the world you believe exists...someone who thinks they're bucking the system, while inadvertantly supporting any number of agendas.

bonkey

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Is It Industrial waste tho?

Yes and no.

It is manufactured from what would otherwise be industrial waste....as you suggested yourself.

His site seems to be down, but Ben Goldacre had some stuff on fluoridation on his Bad Science blog a while ago. As is often the case for him, he ends up more-or-less walking a middle ground, arguing that neither side of the debate really have good research to back them up.

mysterious

bonkey wrote: »

Good for you. You do know that it doesn't actually work, right?

Well I was told it helps, do u know how to remove chlorine?

Which would be more-or-less within the margin of error that an IQ test would be expected to produce in someone of your age (which is within a year of 23, unless you told fibs on the 911 thread about your age in 2001)...but hey...

Also mu intution and precognotion abilties are also coming back.

I could go into quantim physics too buts that another topic:D

An awful lot of the points you've made in that list are related to basic, dietary recommendations. Balanced diet, less processed food, less/no caffeine...

I know, its helps restore the inner balance, spritual awareneness and mental/physical health.

Hey...if it takes belief in a conspiracy theory for someone to eat healthier...I say "keep believing".

I never said it was conspiracy

You did.

I would, of course, ask why you're buying into the health recommendations from government-paid scientists though

You see you haven't a slightest Idea who I am, what I do, and what I'm capable of doing, knowing or creating;)

I don't buy into anyone else's agenda.;)

Why?

Why what?

You're doing mostly what their nutritionists tell you to do. That you're doing it because someone else told you to doesn't matter one whit to them. And, to boot, by buying filters and boiling your water, you're incurring additional costs, supporting Big Business!

No one tells me what to or how to do anything.

If anything, you're the perfect citizen for the world you believe exists...someone who thinks they're bucking the system, while inadvertantly supporting any number of agendas.

Believe in what, what you percieve it to be, in *your* way again.

So what do you believe. That flouride is safe

Do you know flouride is poison? And it accumalates up in your body. You should do some research on mercury it's disturbing. It's not about believing. These are toxins, and very lethal. Mercury affects the brain. Why do dentist give you mercury fillings, and why is there murcury in MMR jabs. Have you any research into this??

We are becoming dumb robots. I would prefer to be a human being who is aware, able to use both logic and intution. who can dicern my thoughts from my feelings, understand my head from my heart and understand what my body is telling, what my body is feeling.

This is called knowing.

Now days we have so much toxins added to our water, food, tablets and so on, affecting us, and it's not in our control or choice. It's making people ignorant.

That is conspiracy.

mysterious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV_gjuKiY4

I've known the government have been trying to kill us for along time:D

But this is a nail in the coffin for me.
For the next two weeks, I'm researching, typing, printing and calling the health board.

Once I have my paper work done. I'm calling my local T.Ds and local politicians in my hometown send them copy of this each, and demand some explaining to do about our drinking water

They will hear me a mile away:D

I'm goong to set a difference on a local scale hopefully other's will too.

djpbarry

mysterious wrote: »

Well I was told it helps, do u know how to remove chlorine?
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No one tells me what to or how to do anything.

:rolleyes:

mysterious wrote: »

Mercury affects the brain. Why do dentist give you mercury fillings, and why is there murcury in MMR jabs.

I believe you are referring to thimerosal? This is no longer used in vaccines - it was phased out about 10 years ago.

Besides, it's completely harmless at low concentrations. I routinely work with this substance, at much higher concentrations than what would have been used in vaccines. It hasn't done me any harm. I can still ..eh... make good with words and ...em... make computer ...em.... go?

bonkey

djpbarry wrote: »

Besides, it's completely harmless at low concentrations.

Pfah. That's just what those scientists who say a nutritious, balanced diet is good for you would have you believe.

mysterious

djpbarry wrote: »

:rolleyes:
IBesides, it's completely harmless at low concentrations. I routinely work with this substance, at much higher concentrations than what would have been used in vaccines. It hasn't done me any harm. I can still ..eh... make good with words and ...em... make computer ...em.... go?

Then why add mercury.

Whats the point. Mercury is very potent. Even in small doses.

djpbarry

mysterious wrote: »

Then why add mercury.

Why add mercury to thimerosal? Because without mercury, you'd have a completely different compound with different physical and chemical properties.

Or are you asking why thimerosal was added to vaccines? Because it's a potent bacteriostatic - it prevented potential contaminants from growing in the vaccine, which could have made the recipient rather ill. Which would you rather in your bloodstream; a small, harmless does of thimerosal, or a hefty dose of salmonella, staphylococcus, E. coli, etc.?