racist or no?

pickarooney · 24-09-2008 11:47am

WindSock wrote: »

There are however not very many asian boxers.

Yes there are. A hefty proportion of the olympic boxing medals went to Asian competitors.

pickarooney · 24-09-2008 11:49am

Varkov wrote: »

The Kenyans and Etheopians are great athletes because alot of these countries are actually large elevated plateaux's (spelling?) So they're are used to training on very little air, and when they come down to compete their bloodstream is getting a lot more oxygen.

So why do Bolivians and Peruvians never win athletics medals?

WindSock · 24-09-2008 11:51am

pickarooney wrote: »

Yes there are. A hefty proportion of the olympic boxing medals went to Asian competitors.

Oh yeah, we lost to one, didn't we?

I was going to say oriental asian, not south-east asian too, but we lost to the oriental kind. Ah well. I take that back so.

Not many Middle or Heavy Weight though?

Turd Ferguson · 24-09-2008 11:52am

pickarooney wrote: »

So why do Bolivians and Peruvians never win athletics medals?

They fail the drug tests

WindSock · 24-09-2008 11:55am

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

Its a board that flips...sheesh :rolleyes:

How is that seen as racialist? I can't even find it in urban dictionary

Dudess · 24-09-2008 12:02pm

Heroditas wrote: »

I used to work for an American company and a guy (from Cork) got in serious trouble when he was sent on assignment to the USA. He was working with a group of americans and used to say "morning boy", "howiya boy" etc etc .... probelm was that one of the guys was Black/African american (etc) and took offence.
He got hauled up in front of HR not having a clue what he had done wrong. He got off in the end naturally but did his best to control use of the word "boy" ... or "biy" as he would obviously pronounce it.

Aw brilliant!

Stupid Cork bollix

ROFFLE!!

Zangetsu wrote: »

@Dinter: Even if it is meant as one... Is someone calls you casper in an angry tone or white ghost or even cracker ( :eek: my feelings day iz soo hurted ) would you be offended? Nah... Not in the least... Its a load of sillyness really.

I don't think you're comparing like with like though because white people don't really experience discrimination based on their colour, whereas the insults hurled at black people kinda go hand in hand with the discrimination they have experienced for centuries.

WindSock wrote: »

I would have a black bassist in my band though :pac:

The musician thing tends to be true all right - although the lead singer of the group Black Kids (five or six members, only two of them black) sounds white and English even though he's black and American.

Zangetsu · 24-09-2008 12:10pm

Fair point Dudess but many of the people i know from 'different' backgrounds are like myself, couldn't give a ****, you call em a smelly yelow asian, they'll laugh and call you a spud picker... See? Joke! Yay! Everyone has a laugh! I only wish people weren't so uptight about this crap... In this day and age we should realise that racism is fookin hilarious :pac:

Dudess · 24-09-2008 12:15pm

Oh I agree, when it's in a humorous context it's harmless... but there can be times when there's hostility and malice behind it.

24-09-2008 12:39pm

WindSock wrote: »

Do you ask for an African American coffee then?

LOL

I prefer Caucasian coffee actually

24-09-2008 12:44pm

Ok, lets put this thing into perspective, if you were in africa,(you're white) say, nigeria, which predominantaly has a black population, you wouldn't go, I was talking to this black guy, would ya? nope, you'd say I was talking to some guy, cos the black bit doesn't really helpo much now, however, if you happened upon a white person, you'd be telling your mate later, ah I met some white dude earlier. Am I right or am I right? you use different variables to differentiate between people, it all depends on the situation you are in.

S.I.R · 24-09-2008 1:03pm

The Bollox wrote: »

would you think any less of a person who, when describing a person they met / saw / had a fight with/ etc... and one of the describing features was "he/she was black"

for example "I had a run in with a guy in the beer garden last night. tall guy, black, very broad, and had a serious temper..."

or

"I got talking to this really nice black girl at the bus stop yesterday. she had long hair, a beautiful face..."

for me it may come as a momentary shock, but in the end it's just a description and I wouldn't think any less of the person telling the story

a black guy, an Asian guy a philipino ( yes they Are everywhere ) and a white American climb to the top of mount everast.

they become stuck on top due to a blizzard and supplys are running short...

after 3 days of cold miserable mindlessness the Asian guy begins running to the edge, jumps off and says " this is for my great country and its people !! "

thenext day the phili jumps off and says " this is for my country and people "

the last and final day, the blizzard isnt stopping so the black guy, grabs the american and throws him off saying " this is for My people"

Moral of the story: Racism can be fun. :S

mountainyman · 24-09-2008 1:51pm

The Bollox wrote: »

would you think any less of a person who, when describing a person they met / saw / had a fight with/ etc... and one of the describing features was "he/she was black"

No there is a woman who works here and she is black, very intelligent, punctual and she smells of soap.

Black Swan · 24-09-2008 2:00pm

The Bollox wrote: »

"I got talking to this really nice black girl at the bus stop yesterday. she had long hair, a beautiful face..."

Would the same person also say about another girl...

"I got talking to this really nice white girl at the bus stop...?"

The Bollox · 24-09-2008 2:14pm

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Would the same person also say about another girl...

"I got talking to this really nice white girl at the bus stop...?"

no, because when someone says "I was talking to some guy" or " I saw some girl" we generally assume the person is white because we are in Ireland. well I say 'we' but I may be just talking for myself

Monty - the one and only · 24-09-2008 2:47pm

WindSock wrote: »

How is that seen as racialist? I can't even find it in urban dictionary

phlip.. is apparently slang for philipinos...tho no one i work with as ever heard of that one:rolleyes:

Dudess · 24-09-2008 3:17pm

The Bollox wrote: »

no, because when someone says "I was talking to some guy" or " I saw some girl" we generally assume the person is white because we are in Ireland. well I say 'we' but I may be just talking for myself

No, you're spot on.

Monty - the one and only wrote: »

phlip.. is apparently slang for philipinos...tho no one i work with as ever heard of that one:rolleyes:

And that's why you guys can't mention "flip chart"? Ah Christ, that's grim... :rolleyes:

Ste05 · 24-09-2008 3:42pm

Yeah, seriously what's wrong with saying Flip-chart??

EDIT: I see it's because Phlip can refer to a Philipino person??

I've never even heard that saying before... ohh what a sheltered life I lead.....

Turd Ferguson · 24-09-2008 3:52pm

Apparently sambo is a racial slur...which I didnt know until I said fairly loudly to a friend in a Londis "God I could murder a f*cking sambo." in reference to a sandwich. But some black American guy took great offence. Oh we laughed*

*then he mugged me and stole my shoes

Nehaxak · 24-09-2008 4:35pm

"here where do ye keep your crackers in this place ?" or "Have ye any of them golly bars in the freezer back there" can all be taken up the wrong way by Americans.

Anyway, calling someone black or white due to the general colour of their skin I wouldn't see as being racist.

pickarooney · 24-09-2008 4:40pm

What about the way all people who are half-black, half-white are called black?

Zangetsu · 24-09-2008 4:43pm

And what about albino black babys (wait was that PC?)...

Dudess · 24-09-2008 4:43pm

I don't know... cuz they're still a lot darker than white?

Acacia · 24-09-2008 4:54pm

Zangetsu wrote: »

Fair point Dudess but many of the people i know from 'different' backgrounds are like myself, couldn't give a ****, you call em a smelly yelow asian, they'll laugh and call you a spud picker... See? Joke! Yay! Everyone has a laugh! I only wish people weren't so uptight about this crap... In this day and age we should realise that racism is fookin hilarious :pac:

That's usually only the case if you're good friends with the person though, and you know the person in question sees it as a joke. Racism isn't fookin' hilarious when somebody is being called a 'Paki' or whatever on the street by complete strangers. These people could use the 'sure, I was only having a laugh' line to defend themselves, when they were clearly being jack-asses.

Heroditas · 24-09-2008 4:58pm

Monty - the one and only wrote: »

phlip.. is apparently slang for philipinos...tho no one i work with as ever heard of that one:rolleyes:

Some people have far too much time on their hands. :rolleyes:

Zangetsu · 24-09-2008 4:58pm

"HAHA your from Pakistan! HAHAHA

"Yes and your from Ireland! HAHAHA

I see your point, I'll just never understand it lol...

Dudess · 24-09-2008 5:33pm

"Go home you filthy pakie" shouted at you by a hostile stranger would never be pleasant, I'd imagine...

Acacia · 24-09-2008 5:52pm

Dudess wrote: »

"Go home you filthy pakie" shouted at you by a hostile stranger would never be pleasant, I'd imagine...

Definitely not, but sometimes people can be a-holes but cover it up with ''We were only joking''. For example, my friend witnessed an incident on a bus where two Irish lads were making fun of a foreign chap, telling him to ''go home'' and all the rest. My friend told them to stop acting like eejits, and they apologized ( to her) and said ''Ah, we were just having a laugh''. Though, the foreign guy in question was clearly annoyed. It's just you have to be careful when making such remarks, even if you do intend them as a joke.:)

However, I do find people can be over-sensitive sometimes, like not being able to order black or white coffee.

Would you get away outta that! :pac::D

DaveyGem · 24-09-2008 7:28pm

I lived in a black area recently in Brooklyn. Great laugh. Although they either thought we were police or insane for living there. when they discovered we were neither they reffered to us as "little white boys" or individually either Frankie Munez (Sp) or Vanilla Ice, Personally found it very funny.

Wouldn't have ben offended if I'd overheard one of our neighbours describing us as white. FFS people would no immediatly who he was talking about if he said white, rather then if he said

"You know those guys, those young new guys with the funny hair."

gixerfixer · 24-09-2008 8:06pm

How is calling a black man emmm black racist? Unbelieveable..Shall we call him dark skinned or African American. FFS sake their black.

racist or no?

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