Match Thread: Man Utd V Bolton [All Pre/During/After Match Discussion]

gixerfixer · 27-09-2008 4:26pm

pvt.joker wrote: »

It wasnt a dive you clown. Have you heard ANY of the commentatords saying anything about a dive?

Easy to call someone a clown from the saftey of your keyboard isnt it

. P.M. me and we can sort this out

LuckyLloyd · 27-09-2008 4:26pm

**** this. I've flicked over to college football in the states for the evening. At least video review and the ability to change lolercopter referring decisions make the game fair.

Bolton are getting ****ed today.

Ruskie4Rent · 27-09-2008 4:27pm

pvt.joker wrote: »

nice dive by ronaldo! shocking penalty decision

pvt.joker wrote: »

after having a closer look i think its a correct decision. The defender made contact with the top of ronaldos foot before the ball.

:rolleyes:

He did slightly go through him, but it was still a bit harsh.

~Rebel~ · 27-09-2008 4:28pm

PHB wrote: »

And Uniteds last game as well, shocking reffing. It's just a poor standard.

pool's last prem game against Stoke to boot! it really is a joke. Seems more often then not at the moment ref's just lose the plot.

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:28pm

gixerfixer wrote: »

Easy to call someone a clown from the saftey of your keyboard isnt it . P.M. me and we can sort this out

Cut the crap, and stop starting rows the pair of ye.

Absolute childishness.

Unearthly · 27-09-2008 4:29pm

The refs style is too rob teams:pac:*

im not actually proud of that

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:30pm

Finally Wayne and Scholes.

Berba should have gone tho not tev.

jesus_thats_gre · 27-09-2008 4:32pm

~Rebel~ wrote: »

pool's last prem game against Stoke to boot! it really is a joke. Seems more often then not at the moment ref's just lose the plot.

Torres was offside.. I am stills stunned that people are still going on about this! We weren't robbed!!!

PHB · 27-09-2008 4:33pm

prv.joker and gixerfixer get over it or you'll both be banned.

5starpool · 27-09-2008 4:34pm

pvt.joker wrote: »

It wasnt a dive you clown. Have you heard ANY of the commentatords saying anything about a dive?

It was as much a dive as it was a penalty, in other words not either of them. You could understand if the ball didn't change course when the defender got a touch, but it was a fine tackle.

pvt.joker · 27-09-2008 4:34pm

PHB wrote: »

prv.joker and gixerfixer get over it or you'll both be banned.

apologies. warning accepted.

gosplan · 27-09-2008 4:34pm

Surprised the Bolton players are taking it so well.

I would have floored the ref by now.

Very very unfair. Man U aren't firing at all and they're just handed the match despite Bolton defending really well for most of it.

Still, that's more likely to happen if you plan on defending for 90 minutes.

gixerfixer · 27-09-2008 4:35pm

Wow. Somebody put in a fair tackle on Ronaldo in the box he goes down and it's not a peno :eek:

Necronomicon · 27-09-2008 4:35pm

Well, undeserved as it was, United have been better since. Hopefully it can be sealed with a second so we'll have something more positive to take from the game. It's been poor.

Frisbee · 27-09-2008 4:35pm

PHB wrote: »

Oh cop on will you. For crying out loud. People will look for any excuse.

There's no way it was a penalty, not a chance. But right now, you're seeing things as poorly as Styles just did.

After seeing it again I'll agree that it wasnt a dive.
I take back my previous post.

PHB · 27-09-2008 4:36pm

Oh that's orgasmic football, orgasmic.

D.S. · 27-09-2008 4:36pm

game over

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:37pm

WAYNE YOU ABSOLUTE LEGEND ROONEY IS THE MAN.

Master stroke from fergie!

Mr.Nice Guy · 27-09-2008 4:37pm

Necronomicon wrote: »

Well, undeserved as it was, United have been better since. Hopefully it can be sealed with a second so we'll have something more positive to take from the game. It's been poor.

Done.

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:37pm

Finally he can get some confidence back in to him .

pvt.joker · 27-09-2008 4:37pm

what a goal!!

LuckyLloyd · 27-09-2008 4:40pm

Also, any comments along the lines of: 'well we scored a second so it didn't matter' are retarded. Once Utd are handed the first it obviously would knock the stuffing out of Bolton and completely change the complexion of the game. The pressure is taken off Utd and they are able to operate with a bit more space against demoralized opponents.

Crucial, crucial decision.

herbieflowers · 27-09-2008 4:41pm

PHB wrote: »

Oh that's orgasmic football, orgasmic.

....

PHB · 27-09-2008 4:42pm

No doubt. Personally I think we probably would have won it anyway, but no denying the importance of that decision.

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:43pm

I for one am happy we got the peno if the ref wants to make a fcuk up let him off, we get decisions against us , may aswell take em when we get them to be honest.

PHB · 27-09-2008 4:44pm

As always, when Rooney is on, United tick. He adds a dynamism nobody else has, even when he's 'not playing well'.

Necronomicon · 27-09-2008 4:44pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Also, any comments along the lines of: 'well we scored a second so it didn't matter' are retarded. Once Utd are handed the first it obviously would knock the stuffing out of Bolton and completely change the complexion of the game. The pressure is taken off Utd and they are able to operate with a bit more space against demoralized opponents.

Crucial, crucial decision.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. Bolton didn't look the same after the decision and United finally looked confident enough to play proper football. No doubting Bolton have been harshly done by.

gixerfixer · 27-09-2008 4:45pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Also, any comments along the lines of: 'well we scored a second so it didn't matter' are retarded. Once Utd are handed the first it obviously would knock the stuffing out of Bolton and completely change the complexion of the game. The pressure is taken off Utd and they are able to operate with a bit more space against demoralized opponents.

Crucial, crucial decision.

I've just watched the penalty again and im even more convinced this time it was a blatant Ronaldo dive. Shocking stuff and that combined with a referee only to happy to keep ferguson happy is the reason Bolton have being robbed today.Football is really being ruined by these cheats :mad:

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:47pm

Spot on PHB, Roon is are heart, take him away then we have nowt.

Mr.Nice Guy · 27-09-2008 4:48pm

Yeah Bolton have been well and truly robbed. They were bound to win 3-0 with their backs-to-the-wall strategy up until that penalty...

These decisions balance themselves out. United should have got a penalty on the opening day of the season when Milner handled the ball for Newcastle. It didn't happen and I don't recall much of an outcry.

United deserve the win.

PHB · 27-09-2008 4:49pm

Scholes is rolling back the years.

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:49pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Yeah Bolton have been well and truly robbed. They were bound to win 3-0 with their backs-to-the-wall strategy up until that penalty...

These decisions balance themselves out. United should have got a penalty on the opening day of the season when Milner handled the ball for Newcastle. It didn't happen and I don't recall much of an outcry.

United deserve the win.

Hear Hear, referring in that league needs a strong examination.

herbieflowers · 27-09-2008 4:50pm

aren't a lot of deadlocks broken (or when teams get back into games) by flukes / mistakes / dodgy decisions, though?

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:50pm

PHB wrote: »

Scholes is rolling back the years.

Haha great little run by scholesy.

PHB · 27-09-2008 4:51pm

What the **** Berbatov?

Chong · 27-09-2008 4:51pm

herbieflowers wrote: »

aren't a lot of deadlocks broken (or when teams get back into games) by flukes / mistakes / didgy decisions, though?

Hahaha I thought you said dreadlocks LOL.

Necronomicon · 27-09-2008 4:51pm

PHB wrote: »

As always, when Rooney is on, United tick. He adds a dynamism nobody else has, even when he's 'not playing well'.

PHB wrote: »

Scholes is rolling back the years.

As much as the decision has knocked the stuffing out of Bolton, the introduction of Scholes and Rooney really has lifted United.

gixerfixer wrote: »

I've just watched the penalty again and im even more convinced this time it was a blatant Ronaldo dive. Shocking stuff and that combined with a referee only to happy to keep ferguson happy is the reason Bolton have being robbed today.Football is really being ruined by these cheats :mad:

Oh give over with your conspiracy theories. It was incompetence of the highest order from the ref, nothing more.

Unearthly · 27-09-2008 4:51pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

These decisions balance themselves out. United should have got a penalty on the opening day of the season when Milner handled the ball for Newcastle. It didn't happen and I don't recall much of an outcry.

Are you saying some boards members are inconsistent??

Headshot · 27-09-2008 4:54pm

berba was ok today

getting better

just needs a goal

LuckyLloyd · 27-09-2008 4:58pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Yeah Bolton have been well and truly robbed. They were bound to win 3-0 with their backs-to-the-wall strategy up until that penalty...

Their backs to the wall strategy had produced the clearest chance of the game to that point. They were defending very well and with each passing minute the percentage probability that they draw or better increased. You should have to earn it - not be given it through incompetence. Bolton had earned parity on the scoreboard up to that point. They will feel disgusted I'm sure - and have every right to be aggrieved.

27-09-2008 5:02pm

Styles is a joke. That was NEVER a penalty. And I'm p1ssed off that was the difference in opening Bolton up.

We were absolute muck today until the goal. Anderson doesnt operate that effectively in a 2 man midfield.

thankfully Rooney got his goal, I'm not praying that he regains a bit of form. Tevez suffered from Rooneyitis this afternoon. Some uncharacteristically poor touches (same with Ronaldo first half) Was anyone else getting frustrated watching Berbatov throwing his arms up in the air and positioning himself in the hole instead of getting right into the box?

Mr.Nice Guy · 27-09-2008 5:04pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Their backs to the wall strategy had produced the clearest chance of the game to that point. They were defending very well and with each passing minute the percentage probability that they draw or better increased. You should have to earn it - not be given it through incompetence. Bolton had earned parity on the scoreboard up to that point. They will feel disgusted I'm sure - and have every right to be aggrieved.

United did earn the result. They had more possession, created more chances and over the nienty minutes - even leaving aside the penalty - were far and away the better side.

To try and pinpoint the penalty decision as the reason Bolton lost is optimistic in the extreme.

Yes the decision went against them but if you look at the game overall I can't see how anyone can say United didn't deserve all three points.

Mr. Presentable · 27-09-2008 5:05pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

United should have got a penalty on the opening day of the season when Milner handled the ball for Newcastle.

So that makes it OK :rolleyes:

A bad decision that decided the game. At Old Trafford. I've said it before, but if this went on in Italy there'd be outcry and an inquiry.

If the referees get it wrong, surely their assistant is there to help out. This decision suggests two officials are incapable of doing their jobs. Coincidence? Yeah, maybe.

Mr.Nice Guy · 27-09-2008 5:08pm

nipplenuts wrote: »

So that makes it OK :rolleyes:

Er, no. Why take my post out of context? I was commenting that decisions balance themselves out. United were hard done by earlier in the season and Bolton were hard done by today.

genericgoon · 27-09-2008 5:09pm

Well, we have got very lucky today. A non-penalty has saved our bacon but the signs after that goal were encouraging. Rooney when he came one was back to kinda form which shows why he is so highly regarder. That goal was pure class. Berba looked good. Once, his fitness is up to speed and he gets a goal, I expect great things from him. That over his head and then volley cross of his showed the kinda ball control he is famous for. Tevez was as feisty as ever and Ronaldo is showing he doesn't need any time to get back into swing of things. The defense was solid as usual (with a couple of exceptions, we got lucky before half time) and Fletcher is a very good Hargreaves substitute(though Hargo is the real deal). Anderson was ok.

This game seems to show though that rotation of our frontline is going to be very important this season. With the opportunity of bringing on one of Tevez, Berba, Rooney or Ronaldo (usually the first 3 probably) along with Nani, Park, Giggs etc, I feel we are going to getting a lot of late goals as these players maraud a lot of tired legs throughout the season. Overall, we got a piece of luck and pushed on from there and really should have won by 4 or 5 with all those chances at the end.

ghouldaddy07 · 27-09-2008 5:10pm

I thought berbatov played better today than in previous games and seemed to gel with the team alot better but he still has alot to do.

Its unfair to say that the penalty is what cost bolton,Rooney is what makes a united side work even when he is not scoring and when scholes is on form we are capable of tearing a side apart like we did towards the end of the game.

was Nani doing anyone else's head in?

Im_No_Superman · 27-09-2008 5:11pm

Delighted with the win. Joke of a decision from Styles but to say Ronaldo dived is ridiculous.

LuckyLloyd · 27-09-2008 5:11pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

United did earn the result. They had more possession, created more chances and over the nienty minutes - even leaving aside the penalty - were far and away the better side.

To try and pinpoint the penalty decision as the reason Bolton lost is optimistic in the extreme.

Yes the decision went against them but if you look at the game overall I can't see how anyone can say United didn't deserve all three points.

Or is just a logical conclusion?

Headshot · 27-09-2008 5:14pm

ghouldaddy07 wrote: »

was Nani doing anyone else's head in?

2nd that

he's such a selfish player

Unearthly · 27-09-2008 5:15pm

Well Setanta decided not to count the peno decision. They had Man Utd down with 6 points and 12th in the table.

Maybe the premier league will do the same :P

Match Thread: Man Utd V Bolton [All Pre/During/After Match Discussion]

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