Dave McSavage beaten up?

Ulysses Gaze

Contrast McSavage's banal, turgid 'comedy' with Father Ted, a comedy that is what 13 years old, that was shown on RTE 2 earlier tonight. It's like Mutton v Lamb.

RTE really dropped the ball not taking Father Ted initially.

briany

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Contrast McSavage's banal, turgid 'comedy' with Father Ted, a comedy that is what 13 years old, that was shown on RTE 2 earlier tonight. It's like Mutton v Lamb.

RTE really dropped the ball not taking Father Ted initially.

I'm glad RTE didn't get Father Ted, they probably would have RUINED it, even with the scripts already in place, especially since this was around the time they were churning out such "classic" stuff as Upwardly Mobile featuring unforgettable characters like Tooooby! He loved his wine you know......

OutlawPete

Glenroe was the only good production that RTE ever did. Love it or hate it there is no doubt it was streets ahead anything they have done since.

It was also loved by a massive audience yet they cancelled it at it's peak. I have no idea who made that decision but I hope they got sacked. Then again, knowing RTE they are more than likely still head of programming :rolleyes:

Dennis the Stone

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

RTE really dropped the ball not taking Father Ted initially.

Uh-oh!

briany

I've never been quite able to pinpoint why exactly Irish humour is so bad. Maybe one reason is because comedy is subjective and to me comedy is escapism and I like to hear it in accents and patterns of speech different to my own. The moment I hear some cartoony "Jaysus, anto" dublin accent on the TV in the context of a comedy is an instant negative for me. Did people in Britain feel the same when they saw Harry Enfield do "Considerably richer than yow" for the first time for example however? I doubt it because those sketches had at least some substance to them (balk if you must) and were not relying solely on the west midlands accent to provide the laughs. Contrast that with an Irish sketch show where some junkie types were refusing to sell some D4 types drugs because "Yez don't bleeeeeedin' talk like dis!" and that was the whole crux of the sketch! Irish humour on TV is completely one dimensional.

OutlawPete

briany wrote: »

I've never been quite able to pinpoint why exactly Irish humour is so bad. Maybe one reason is because comedy is subjective and to me comedy is escapism and I like to hear it in accents and patterns of speech different to my own. The moment I hear some cartoony "Jaysus, anto" dublin accent on the TV in the context of a comedy is an instant negative for me. quote]

I used to think that but I changed my mind.

I think it is all about production quality. Lots of Dublin accents were used in Father Ted and although not a comedy, there were Dublin accents in Ballykissangel.

RTE just has no clue. Look at our number one soap Fair City. It look like it was shot on a shoestring back in the early 90's.

The best shows for production quality that I have ever seen were:

Glenroe
Showbands
Bachelors Walk
Pure Mule

briany

Well while that is true, the thing that I admired about Father Ted is that it never relied on Irishness to get laughs, it was all about the interactions between the characters and various bizarre and funny situations they found themselves in. True there was a little Irishness thrown in, making fun of certain attitudes and things like that but never in your face. That programme would have been funny, in my opinion if it was done in just about any other accent of English from this part of the world becaue the writing was so good. If RTE could only do that a little more rather than " Look at me, I'm a lesbian from Leitrim!" Haw haw hawwwww. Dan and Becs though in fairness was quite good because it did a little of what I'm talking about and focused on the characters, so perhaps there is hope.

DaveyByrne

I absolutely loved David McSavage's show last night... he's my favourite comedian.

Sometimes his comedy seems a little silly and absurd - but it's right at the cutting edge. The likes of Monty Python was the same... some of it is terrible, but in the midst of that lies true genius.

nouveau_4.0

DaveyByrne wrote: »

I absolutely loved David McSavage's show last night... he's my favourite comedian.

Sometimes his comedy seems a little silly and absurd - but it's right at the cutting edge. The likes of Monty Python was the same... some of it is terrible, but in the midst of that lies true genius.

Whaaaat!! Likening David McSavage to Monthy Python, what are you thinking.

I really underestimated the dumbing down of this generation.

davyjose

i take it he survived his beating so???

DaveyByrne

Not likening the comedy... likening the sillyness and absurdity of their comedy... there's a difference. Please re-read my post.

I've been reading back over this forum and there seems to be a whole lot of inverted-snobbery involved in people's reaction against DMcS. Sure his family are prominent politically, but why hold that against him?

nouveau_4.0

DaveyByrne wrote: »

Not likening the comedy... likening the sillyness and absurdity of their comedy... there's a difference. Please re-read my post.

I've been reading back over this forum and there seems to be a whole lot of inverted-snobbery involved in people's reaction against DMcS. Sure his family are prominent politically, but why hold that against him?

Thats it, its probably because of his family ties that people are criticising him, or maybe its the fact that he's just a poor comic.

Zombienosh

I never seen any of this guy before last nights tv show.

I think it was pretty good, had me laughing at parts.. For the people who think its crap and go on to talk about how irish comedy is crap.... i dont get it... tv shows? maybe theres not enough of them.. but irish comedy i think is alive and well.

General Zod

DaveyByrne wrote: »

Not likening the comedy... likening the sillyness and absurdity of their comedy... there's a difference. Please re-read my post.

I've been reading back over this forum and there seems to be a whole lot of inverted-snobbery involved in people's reaction against DMcS. Sure his family are prominent politically, but why hold that against him?

I hold the fact he's a terrible comedian and he only has a show thanks to his family and the nepotism of RTE in general.

Put it like this: Hardy Bucks deserve a series of their own, Dave McSavage deserves every bit of scorn he gets thrown at him.

AnonoBoy

DaveyByrne wrote: »

I've been reading back over this forum and there seems to be a whole lot of inverted-snobbery involved in people's reaction against DMcS. Sure his family are prominent politically, but why hold that against him?

I think the reason a lot of people don't like him has more to do with him being an unmitigated c*nt than him being from a prominent political family.

You don't see Cecelia Ahern getting the same level of hatred and look who her Da is.

prinz

davyjose wrote: »

i take it he survived his beating so???

Looks like he should get another one tbh. He is not funny. The prat is a stain on the country with his street show. He should've been stopped long ago, I've seen him accuse an english couple walking past with their young daughter of abducting and abusing madeleine mccann."oh look they're taking her back to the hotel now ha ha ha".

Diabhal Beag

Flicked through the show during the Apprentice and had a few laughs during it. He clearly survived that beating I guess.

genericguy

General Zod wrote: »

I hold the fact he's a terrible comedian and he only has a show thanks to his family and the nepotism of RTE in general.

Put it like this: Hardy Bucks deserve a series of their own, Dave McSavage deserves every bit of scorn he gets thrown at him.

hardy bucks is less shit, but shit by any stretch of the imagination.

dave mc savage is a prick, he is unfunny, i hate him and his nicolas cage-like dick nose. rte should be abolished.

asdfgh86

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Contrast McSavage's banal, turgid 'comedy' with Father Ted, a comedy that is what 13 years old, that was shown on RTE 2 earlier tonight. It's like Mutton v Lamb.

RTE really dropped the ball not taking Father Ted initially.

The myth continues that Rte decided against taking on Father Ted initially. They weren't offered it, Linehan and Matthews went straight to Ch4.

RGDATA!

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

RTE really dropped the ball not taking Father Ted initially.

can you elabourate on that? :cool:

i'll save you the bother - RTE were never offered Father Ted. it seems to be a popular criticism people like pulling out of their arses though.

AnonoBoy

RGDATA! wrote: »

can you elabourate on that? :cool:

i'll save you the bother - RTE were never offered Father Ted. it seems to be a popular criticism people like pulling out of their arses though.

Indeed that critcism has been pulled out of so many arses at this stage it'd be easy to mistake it for a gay porn star's appendage.

RGDATA!

genericguy wrote: »

rte should be abolished.

yeah let's abolish RTE because they don't do good comedy. we can get our news, current affairs, sports and documentaries from TV3, sure most people don't care about that sort of **** anyway. nice to see someone coming forward with a sensible solution.

General Zod

genericguy wrote: »

hardy bucks is less shit, but shit by any stretch of the imagination.

of all the nonsense you've posted to AH this is the worst.

opinion guy

RGDATA! wrote: »

yeah let's abolish RTE because they don't do good comedy. we can get our news, current affairs, sports and documentaries from TV3, sure most people don't care about that sort of **** anyway. nice to see someone coming forward with a sensible solution.

I get all the stuff from the internet. is RTE even still on the air ? :rolleyes:

Edit: not to be confused with genericguy, opinion_guy has no particular issue with McSavage. In fact I met him once casually and he was grand

AnonoBoy

opinion guy wrote: »

In fact I met him once casually and he was grand

So you DO exist. I'd heard he was nice to someone once, just never believed it.

genericguy

General Zod wrote: »

of all the nonsense you've posted to AH this is the worst.

nonsense? i deal in facts my friend.

jumpguy

Watched Savage Eye on RTE last night. I thought it was hilarious! Or maybe my standards were just critically low after watching that ****e, Republic of Telly.

I saw him in Grafton Street too, and ****it, I thought he was funny there. Lighten up.

Wibbs

DaveyByrne wrote: »

Not likening the comedy... likening the sillyness and absurdity of their comedy... there's a difference. Please re-read my post.

I've been reading back over this forum and there seems to be a whole lot of inverted-snobbery involved in people's reaction against DMcS. Sure his family are prominent politically, but why hold that against him?

I actually thought this series so far is good. Better than the other homegrown comedy stuff I've seen of late. His street stuff never appealed to me, but it wouldnt anyway. Just not my thing. I think he's getting better and that episode confirmed it for me.

I think the rancour over the family connections is that Ireland is a tiny place and the media in ireland is an even tinier place. This guff is shot through Ireland like a stick of rock. The political field is the same. Sosn of sons and all that bollox. The financial field, the legal field, even the medical field(though less so). The connections are very strong and everyone knows everyone else. I'm sure you could do a programme on one media type in ireland and the web of connections would cover 80% of the people in the industry. Its very incestuous and that isn't healthy. It leads to begrudegry both valid and invalid. And it also can and does lead to stagnation. The usual faces that show up all the bloody time with the same patter. He would be an obvious example connections wise with the political links and the tubirdy links etc, but he's not the worst. Not by a long shot.

In any case as I said I think he hit a few points well in that last example I saw.

Crow71

Lol at the people who cant come to terms with the savage eye being good. "But its David McSavage and its good"

General Zod

Republic of Telly is great. you're obviously laugh at the moon.