McCain suspends campaign

axer

axer wrote: »

In fairness though, the economy can wait until the ribs are cooked.

Damn right...a mans gotta eat..

Overheal

amen.

edit:

Added: September 22, 2008

he was on the show before his suspension.

galwaydude

Tentative deal announced http

Looks like McCain can get back to work now, wonder will he still do this debate tomorrow night. Not that he did much in the first place.

cooker3

Overheal wrote: »

he was on the show before his suspension.

Pfffft like that matters. GO OBAMA!!!!!!1oneone!

Manic Moran

galwaydude wrote: »

Tentative deal announced http

Tentative deal fell apart.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26884523/?GT1=43001

NTM

Black Swan

McCain will attend the presidential debate as scheduled. He always planned to attend, no matter what he told the press. This was a ploy to draw attention to him, because he was not getting any. And look, he is now the centre of attention, so it worked.

All the talk about temporarily canceling his campaigning to rush to Washington DC to save the American people in a financial crisis was spin, intended to make him look like the American cavalry riding in at the last minute to save the day, as in American folklore or old western shoot-em-up films.

Otacon

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

All the talk about temporarily canceling his campaigning to rush to Washington DC to save the American people in a financial crisis was spin, intended to make him look like the American cavalry riding in at the last minute to save the day, as in American folklore or old western shoot-em-up films.

The fact that earlier in the day, before he was involved, a deal was close at hand, which fell apart after he arrived, suggests to me that his 'saving the day' abilities need some work.

As you have said though, he will go into tonight's debate with the attention. Very clever, but very cynical.

axer

Otacon wrote: »

The fact that earlier in the day, before he was involved, a deal was close at hand, which fell apart after he arrived, suggests to me that his 'saving the day' abilities need some work.

As you have said though, he will go into tonight's debate with the attention. Very clever, but very cynical.

but it is ironic since he seems to have ruined or at least negatively helped the negotiations which results in this problem continuing on longer which gives more strength to Obama's campaign.

brianthebard

Otacon wrote: »

The fact that earlier in the day, before he was involved, a deal was close at hand, which fell apart after he arrived, suggests to me that his 'saving the day' abilities need some work.

As you have said though, he will go into tonight's debate with the attention. Very clever, but very cynical.

Who was putting this deal together?

is_that_so

axer wrote: »

but it is ironic since he seems to have ruined or at least negatively helped the negotiations which results in this problem continuing on longer which gives more strength to Obama's campaign.

Neither of them appears to have been significantly involved, beyond the photos. The suggestion of having both there was to give the "impression" of bi-partisanship. It still appears to be unresolved, mainly due to some Republicans continuing to object to the bailout cost. I like the Hank Paulson on bended knee image.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/business/26bailout.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1222416043-z/Uz+0cgd6fzclU1maNotw

Otacon

brianthebard wrote: »

Who was putting this deal together?

"A renegade bloc of Republicans moved to reshape a massive bailout of the U.S. financial system yesterday, surprising and angering Bush administration and congressional leaders who hours earlier announced agreement on the "fundamentals" of a deal."

LINK

Otacon

is_that_so wrote: »

Neither of them appears to have been significantly involved, beyond the photos.

Hardly worth suspending a campaign for...

Hobbes

Barbara Boxer nailed it tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TM2OYd1hBc

I see now that McCain is bailing out of a debate with Gov Bush.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2000/02/28/MN62687.DTL&hw=mccain+opinsky&sn=001&sc=1000

Ludo

Hobbes wrote: »

Barbara Boxer nailed it tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TM2OYd1hBc

I see now that McCain is bailing out of a debate with Gov Bush.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2000/02/28/MN62687.DTL&hw=mccain+opinsky&sn=001&sc=1000

WTF???That article is from 2000!!! lol

axer

Ludo wrote: »

WTF???That article is from 2000!!! lol

and?

Ludo

erm..to quote..."McCain IS bailing out of a debate with Bush".

8 year old article which on reading the sentence before the blurb implies it is current.

cL0h

axer wrote: »

and?

ahahahaha!!!

Nice contribution there axer !!

LMFAO

Otacon

Ludo wrote: »

erm..to quote..."McCain IS bailing out of a debate with Bush".

8 year old article which on reading the sentence before the blurb implies it is current.

History repeating itself is the point I believe.

brianthebard

Otacon wrote: »

"A renegade bloc of Republicans moved to reshape a massive bailout of the U.S. financial system yesterday, surprising and angering Bush administration and congressional leaders who hours earlier announced agreement on the "fundamentals" of a deal."

LINK

So a group of republicans get in the way of a deal and then McCain comes in, talks to some people and bada boom the deal is online again? McCain tries to get some brownie points for fixing the breakdown? That's what I see happening here.

Hobbes

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/09/25/reid/index.html

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Sen. Chris Dodd, who chairs the Senate Banking Committee, essentially accused McCain of having torpedoed the agreement in principle that Dodd and others had announced earlier in the day. They also said he'd shown no interest in participating in further talks....

Ouch! Although they are both Democrats.

galwaydude

Interesting debate tonight if it happens at all. I think at this stage most americans are just sick of this situation. McCain show your true colors. The blame game has started. Check out www.larouchepac.com . There was tonnes of people handing out flyers today in boston and every other city in the US with this mans ramblings essentially putting blame on the europeans moreso britain.

sink

galwaydude wrote: »

Interesting debate tonight if it happens at all. I think at this stage most americans are just sick of this situation. McCain show your true colors. The blame game has started. Check out www.larouchepac.com . There was tonnes of people handing out flyers today in boston and every other city in the US with this mans ramblings essentially putting blame on the europeans moreso britain.

It's ridiculous the worst thing we did was buy their mortgage backed securities which later turned out to be worthless. It's their fault for creating this situation and if they don't shore up the crippling debt European and Asians won't touch the US financial system with 3000 mile long barge pole. They need our money even more that we need theirs.

corkfella

anyone know what time and what channel this debate is on tonight?

is_that_so

Nice cartoon and an analysis of the pair of them, from the FT. Registration(Free) required to read all of it.

Hobbes

Ludo wrote: »

WTF???That article is from 2000!!! lol

lol missed that.

galwaydude

check out http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/09/26/sell_sell_mccain_is_tanking/

All falling apart for McCain hopefully.

Manic Moran

That Boston one was certainly a neutral piece....

The FT article was a little more accurate, I think.

NTM

cooker3

Well it looks to me like it's backfiring badly. He said no debate without a plan. Well there is a debate but I don't see a plan.
It doesn't really matter if it was a political stunt or not, it looks like that which what really matters.

Black Swan

cooker3 wrote: »

Well it looks to me like it's backfiring badly. He said no debate without a plan. Well there is a debate but I don't see a plan.
It doesn't really matter it was a political stunt or not, it looks like that which what really matters.

It was a ploy within a ploy planned and orchestrated by Karl Rove to draw attention to McCain, which he got, with the media frenzy that occurred as a result of pretending to reschedule or cancel the debate. And by standing up Letterman added to the appearance that McCain might not show for the debate (although McCain was caught by Letterman's people putting on makeup just down the street for an interview with one of the big telly network anchors saying why he might not attend the debates... no wonder Letterman is so upset with McCain... standing him up within one hour of the Letterman show, only to interview down the street with a telly news anchor).

2Scoops

He's a mavrick [sic].