Is Roulette Sniper the real deal?

pyure

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

"When I'm betting against the wheel, if I wait for, say, six red numbers in a row, then I'm closer to hitting a black than if I bet on black straight away, although there's no mathematical logic in this. Waiting for ten reds would be even better, but runs of ten aren't as frequent.

Says it all really.

thedini

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

Exclude 5% house advantage.

red x 1.....2/1

red x 2 in a row.....4/1


red x 3.....8/1


red x 4 .....16/1


red x 5 .....32/1


red x 6 64/1


red x 7 128/1


Therefore as you can see on the 5th spin the odds on the ball landing on black are 2/1 or 50/50, on red 32/1. Even though over 1 spin its 50/50.

your odds are all wrong to begin with but anyway, so you will give me 32/1 on it being red, if so i will meet you in any casino whenever you want.and since when is 2/1 50/50?:rolleyes:

trynabe

lads
i dont know whos right or wrong here but i did check it out before and the record is 11 or 12 straight colours in a row ,so that would prove the odds increasing however its still 50/50 on wich colour hits so i dont know ,, maybe a maths or stats man could help or some college prof ,, either way im baffled ,
good luck to ye

Dodge

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

Exclude 5% house advantage.

red x 1.....2/1

red x 2 in a row.....4/1


red x 3.....8/1


red x 4 .....16/1


red x 5 .....32/1


red x 6 64/1


red x 7 128/1


Therefore as you can see on the 5th spin the odds on the ball landing on black are 2/1 or 50/50, on red 32/1. Even though over 1 spin its 50/50.

I've never seen a poorer grasp of roulette, and maths in general. :eek: There isn't a single thing right.

enda1

Especially love the end! where did the other 15/32's go?

jaykay74

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

Exclude 5% house advantage.

red x 1.....2/1

red x 2 in a row.....4/1


red x 3.....8/1


red x 4 .....16/1


red x 5 .....32/1


red x 6 64/1


red x 7 128/1


Therefore as you can see on the 5th spin the odds on the ball landing on black are 2/1 or 50/50, on red 32/1. Even though over 1 spin its 50/50.

Cheers, I haven't laughed so much in a long time.

On 5th spin 50% chance black, 32/1 chance red, that doesn't quite add up to 100%. Do you deal in sub prime mortgages much ?

twerg_85

for anyone who's confused, look up "conditional probability".

Prob(RRRRRR) = 1/64 (ignoring green for simplicity)
Prob(R) = 1/2

but Prob(RRRRRR) given that (RRRRR) has already happened is 1/2, not 1/64, i.e the same as the remaining Prob(R). This is because as has already been stated, each spin is independent of all previous spins.

For anyone who's genuinely confused re Martingale systems, the problem is that you may lose all your money before you win anything. Once you've lost your entire bankroll, you can no longer implement your system, so you have lost.

It's a low reward,high risk strategy. If you follow a martingale system, you will either win 1 unit or lose entire bankroll. If you repeatedly follow this system, you will eventually lose everything.

cooperguy

cherrypicker555 Vegas has built its massive hotels on people like you. Your lack of a grasp on pretty basic statistics is astonishing. However your insistence that you are right is hilarious.

Davey Devil

trynabe wrote: »

lads
i dont know whos right or wrong here but i did check it out before and the record is 11 or 12 straight colours in a row

A few years ago I was waiting for a cash game in the Fitz and was watching the roulette. People were piling on red after 10 straight blacks. Nobody had any money left when it landed on red after 21 BLACKS IN A ROW.

trynabe

thats me fixed anyway davey hahaha i should of looked harder ,, needless to say i dont play roulette anymore ,i was ahead but like your story one night all my winnings were gone ,kept my original start out stake so at least i could say i had a run and sme fun ,but the only way to win at this game is quit when your ahead and leg it far away from the wheel fast and spend the money
good luck all

reilly110

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

Thats only true over one spin, the odds on the ball landing on red 2x or red 6 x in a row are significantly different. If the ball lands on one colour numerous x, its less likely to land on that colour next spin. Thats a statistical fact.

hmmmmm --- lol

this is comical stuff

premierstone

I'm only getting to read this thread now, dont know how i missed it, and its some of the funniest stuff I have ever read, I assume cherrypicker has realised he was talking absolute sh*te or did he have to pawn his laptop to pay he's roulette debts

Bobeagleburger

cherrypicker = Legend

holdemfoldem

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

Thats only true over one spin, the odds on the ball landing on red 2x or red 6 x in a row are significantly different. If the ball lands on one colour numerous x, its less likely to land on that colour next spin. Thats a statistical fact.

ok i may be wrong here but im pretty sure you have somehow merged two branches of mathematics.. or just don't understand either.

Probability deals with predicting the likelihood of future events, while statistics involves the analysis of the frequency of past events.

the probability of 8 reds hitting will be alot larger than that of 2 reds hitting but as the line above says probability is the study of future events. its not probable that you will hit RRRRRRRRRR but its not a fact that you won't.

statistically the odds are 50/50 ie there are only two outcomes red or black. if you flip a coin a million times it will be heads around 500,000 times and tails the other 500,000 times

No matter how many times the wheel is spun whether that be 10 straight reds or a million straight reds the next time the wheel is spun it will hit black 50% of the time and red the other 50%. and that my friend is a statistical fact.

nough said.

Mellor

Just so you know, that guy is completly wrong.
But probability is a branch of stats.
Say the reason he is wrong because he is confusing the two is wrong,
thats not wht he is wrong,
he's wrong because he fails at everything he has said and thought ever

Bobeagleburger

Mellor wrote: »

Just so you know, that guy is completly wrong.
But probability is a branch of stats.
Say the reason he is wrong because he is confusing the two is wrong,
thats not wht he is wrong,
he's wrong because he fails at everything he has said and thought ever

+1000000

david

Mellor wrote: »

Just so you know, that guy is completly wrong.
But probability is a branch of stats.
Say the reason he is wrong because he is confusing the two is wrong,
thats not wht he is wrong,
he's wrong because he fails at everything he has said and thought ever

Bit Harsh! Give the guy a break!

cherrypicker555

Mellor wrote: »

Just so you know, that guy is completly wrong.
But probability is a branch of stats.
Say the reason he is wrong because he is confusing the two is wrong,
thats not wht he is wrong,
he's wrong because he fails at everything he has said and thought ever

Yer, but unlike you, I dont stay hiding behind a pc screen Iget out and about in the real world.


Went to casino Sat night tested system 3 x now.

1st came out 100 up.

2nd 100 up

3rd at one stage 200 down, came out 600 up.

Its called having balls my friend, putting 300 quid on red or black.

Watch and bitch

Incidently a couple of students were 500 pounds up, lumped it on black and won :eek: That took balls.

Loads of young women in their playing, as well as students, dont know where they get the cash, one was 1800 quid down.

Arab fellow in there, looked about 18, lumping on 500 quid every bet.


.....................Love it.

Collie D

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

Yer, but unlike you, I dont stay hiding behind a pc screen Iget out and about in the real world.


Went to casino Sat night tested system 3 x now.

1st came out 100 up.

2nd 100 up

3rd at one stage 200 down, came out 600 up.

Its called having balls my friend, putting 300 quid on red or black.

Watch and bitch

Incidently a couple of students were 500 pounds up, lumped it on black and won :eek: That took balls.

Loads of young women in their playing, as well as students, dont know where they get the cash, one was 1800 quid down.

Arab fellow in there, looked about 18, lumping on 500 quid every bet.


.....................Love it.

Call it balls if you like, I'd call it luck. It's not a strategy. You are betting on pure chance. Nice to see you've gotten away with it so far but you're heading for a sharp shock. When you were 200 down I assume oyu put on three hundred to get a hundred quid up? What happened if you hit black then - next step is 600 to make a hundred profit. MOst casinos in Dublin I've been in have a 500 limit so you're screwed. How oyu can think it's not a 50/50 chance on every spin is beyond me (well actually factoring in the zero it's not but I digress)

Mellor

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

Yer, but unlike you, I dont stay hiding behind a pc screen Iget out and about in the real world.

Have to laugh at this, just because you don't know me hardly means i'm hiding behind a pc screen. theres plenty of people here who know me "in the real world". Most of them know me from the casino:eek:
Although, I prefer to play a game were I have an constant edge, call me old fashioned.

holdemfoldem

Mellor wrote: »

Just so you know, that guy is completly wrong.
But probability is a branch of stats.
Say the reason he is wrong because he is confusing the two is wrong,
thats not wht he is wrong,
he's wrong because he fails at everything he has said and thought ever

ok i mite have worded that wrong so your right there probability is a branch of stats.. my definitions of them hold true though so i still maintain on a game like roulette you can't use one to get the other or vice versa

Ie past events in roulette ( stats ) can't help you determine what will come next ( prob ) unless the wheel is not accurately balanced etc

holdemfoldem

oh and cherrypicker i have a few suggestions for your next project..

there is some guys doing some great work on horse racing systems.. bound to make some profit there..

also if you google 'lotto systems' theres some no go'ers but i think one or two have writen their speal in a way only you will understand. think about it if you load up your bets on the lotto imagine the return when you finalling hit the jackpot!

As for the rest of us unable to see what is blatantly obvious to you we are doomed to remain in our min pay jobs hoping for a fav double to finally come inso we can pay our electricity bills... :pac::pac:

cherrypicker555

Mellor wrote: »

Have to laugh at this, just because you don't know me hardly means i'm hiding behind a pc screen. theres plenty of people here who know me "in the real world". Most of them know me from the casino:eek:
Although, I prefer to play a game were I have an constant edge, call me old fashioned.

What edge ?

Even most poker pros inc big names make a loss and rely on sponsorship.

With roulette I need to win one in a 50/50 game.

jaykay74

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

What edge ?

Even most poker pros inc big names make a loss and rely on sponsorship.

With roulette I need to win one in a 50/50 game.

50/50 you better check again

Bobeagleburger

cherrypicker555 wrote: »

What edge ?

Even most poker pros inc big names make a loss and rely on sponsorship.

With roulette I need to win one in a 50/50 game.

50/50 game? are you for real?

Ridiculous post

hotspur

The reason why us poker players have an edge is that people like cherrypicker exist in the world. With roulette it really doesn't matter how retarded the croupier is does it? (not that I believe for one second that cherrypicker is anything other than a troll)

cherrypicker555

hotspur wrote: »

The reason why us poker players have an edge is that people like cherrypicker exist in the world. With roulette it really doesn't matter how retarded the croupier is does it? (not that I believe for one second that cherrypicker is anything other than a troll)

Is that why world no 1 Gus Hansen made 20 million playing poker last yr but lost 21 million ?

But unlike the worlds top pros you have the edge :rolleyes:

Cookpasbabtridg

Having read the last four pages, I can only assume cherrypicker555 is on a wind-up. There's no way he could post such complete and utter rubbish and go to a casino to put his 'theories' into practice. My guess is he's 12 years old and bored of whackin off to Seoige on his mid term.

waxon-waxoff

If you have deep enough pockets to keep going until your colour comes up then you are guaranteed to win, even though you might be only be one euro up. Its a bit of fun but you would never get rich.

I started playing lately and so far im up a few quid. Keeping to a budget and modest bets seem to reduce the chance of a loss. When you are on a roll its tempting to up your stake to try to win real money but thats why the bookies win i suppose. I put in €100 one day, went up about €20 but then got 10 blacks in a row and it cleaned me out. Was tempted to put in more but i left it for another day

enda1

waxon-waxoff wrote: »

If you have deep enough pockets to keep going until your colour comes up then you are guaranteed to win, even though you might be only be one euro up.

Not really seeing as most/all tables have a bet limit.