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    #722
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    According to Damien Tiernan on Twitter, the WIT president is leaving to "take up new job as Special Advisor with Dept of Education".

    No link unfortunately, maybe someone with access can provide one.

    Hmmm... well well well... it's all getting very interesting.


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    #723
    wellboytoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    fricatus wrote: »
    According to Damien Tiernan on Twitter, the WIT president is leaving to "take up new job as Special Advisor with Dept of Education".

    No link unfortunately, maybe someone with access can provide one.

    Hmmm... well well well... it's all getting very interesting.

    Is that the newly appointed Mr Langford?


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    #724
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Its Dr Ruaidhri Neavyn.

    So does that mean he is going to oversee the University of Waterfords creation or has he merely been bought off?


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    #725
    fiachr_a
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fiachr_a


    What Waterford needs is someone in Department of Transport not Education. With all these bus and train cuts the town will be like The Alamo soon, cut off from everywhere else!


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    #726
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,703 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    fiachr_a wrote: »
    What Waterford needs is someone in Department of Transport not Education. With all these bus and train cuts the town will be like The Alamo soon, cut off from everywhere else!

    What train cut's, the bus cuts are completely cancelled out by the additional 9 daily DublinCoach service!


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    #727
    imacman
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭imacman


    What I have heard is he is gone on secondment to the HEA but his term is up next year anyway and there is no chance of him getting reelected as he is a deeply unpopular character. So in fact the has jumped ship from WIT ,but im not sure what this means for the TU debate.
    I know there is a feeling in WIT the he was an cuckoo in the nest being ex president of Carlow and he wasn't working in the best interests of WIT. In fact he signed the memorandum of understanding with Carlow along with the ex chairman in the Autumn without consulting the executive and other management.This was one of the reasons the whole thing went sideways before Christmas. Hopefully they will elect a new president who will stand up for WIT and Waterford and not be bullied into this disfunctional shotgun wedding with Carlow by the politicans


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    #728
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    It won't happen but it would be interesting to see the reaction if some benefactor popped up and said I'll fund WU for its first five years (enough to get it fully established).


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    #729
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    It won't happen but it would be interesting to see the reaction if some benefactor popped up and said I'll fund WU for its first five years (enough to get it fully established).

    It happened (in a manner of speaking) for UL - Chuck Feeney and Atlantic Philanthropies gave a ton of money to the university.

    Oh to have their luck...


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    #730
    PeteFalk78
    Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Its Dr Ruaidhri Neavyn.

    So does that mean he is going to oversee the University of Waterfords creation or has he merely been bought off?

    Haha good one.


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    #731
    RYGCat
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭RYGCat


    fricatus wrote: »
    It happened (in a manner of speaking) for UL - Chuck Feeney and Atlantic Philanthropies gave a ton of money to the university.

    Oh to have their luck...

    Haha better one!

    Any idea who's replacing Dr Neavyn?


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    #732
    taytobreath
    Registered Users Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    My money is someone from either Carlow or Kilkenny


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    #733
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    taytobreath wrote: »
    My money is someone from either Carlow or Kilkenny

    You can put your house on it.


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    #734
    RYGCat
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭RYGCat


    imacman wrote: »
    What I have heard is he is gone on secondment to the HEA but his term is up next year anyway and there is no chance of him getting reelected as he is a deeply unpopular character. So in fact the has jumped ship from WIT ,but im not sure what this means for the TU debate.
    I know there is a feeling in WIT the he was an cuckoo in the nest being ex president of Carlow and he wasn't working in the best interests of WIT. In fact he signed the memorandum of understanding with Carlow along with the ex chairman in the Autumn without consulting the executive and other management.This was one of the reasons the whole thing went sideways before Christmas. Hopefully they will elect a new president who will stand up for WIT and Waterford and not be bullied into this disfunctional shotgun wedding with Carlow by the politicans

    Rumours of a joint president???


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    #735
    wellboytoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    RYGCat wrote: »
    Rumours of a joint president???

    FFS both probably appointed by the Minister,!! This whole debacle is the most blatant display of political interference and F**king parochialism I have ever seen.


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    #736
    Meathlass
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    Presumably this position will be externally advertised with someone appointed in the interim while the recruitment process is underway?


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    #737
    imacman
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭imacman


    Meathlass wrote: »
    Presumably this position will be externally advertised with someone appointed in the interim while the recruitment process is underway?

    The good thing is the process has to follow the standard civil service recruitment procedures. So the minister can't just de facto appoint someone.Standard procedure would appoint an internal caretaker , start a recruitment process and have a new president in place for September for the new academic year.


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    #738
    Figerty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Figerty


    imacman wrote: »
    The good thing is the process has to follow the standard civil service recruitment procedures. So the minister can't just de facto appoint someone.Standard procedure would appoint an internal caretaker , start a recruitment process and have a new president in place for September for the new academic year.

    That's a fairly simplistic view. The Minister always has influence. No third level elevated position goes without the political nod.
    The new president has probably already been identified. The whole move sideways has been well planned.


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    #739
    RYGCat
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭RYGCat


    Figerty wrote: »
    That's a fairly simplistic view. The Minister always has influence. No third level elevated position goes without the political nod.
    The new president has probably already been identified. The whole move sideways has been well planned.

    For an 'identified' President, is there any sign of an appointment?


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    #740
    Figerty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Figerty


    RYGCat wrote: »
    For an 'identified' President, is there any sign of an appointment?

    Don't know, the loop on this will be very tight...

    Two of the WIT most powerful men have been moved sideways...This has happened before in other IOT's...in very subtle ways sometimes and not so subtle ways other times...

    WIT have now lost their last two Presidents in less than straight forward methods.


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    #741
    RYGCat
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭RYGCat


    Figerty wrote: »
    Don't know, the loop on this will be very tight...

    Two of the WIT most powerful men have been moved sideways...This has happened before in other IOT's...in very subtle ways sometimes and not so subtle ways other times...

    WIT have now lost their last two Presidents in less than straight forward methods.

    WIT will then have had 4 presidents and 3 chairs in less than 4 years. Losing one is unfortunate, 2 careless and any more than that, well that's a real reflection....


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    #742
    imacman
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭imacman


    Word is its an internal only appointment to fill the post on an interim basis till 2017 when the seconded presidents contract expires.There is a very strong job criteria so there are very few individuals internally who have the qualifications needed for the post . Its going to be one the members of the executive board , just a question of who now.


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    #743
    RYGCat
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭RYGCat


    imacman wrote: »
    Word is its an internal only appointment to fill the post on an interim basis till 2017 when the seconded presidents contract expires.There is a very strong job criteria so there are very few individuals internally who have the qualifications needed for the post . Its going to be one the members of the executive board , just a question of who now.

    So if this is an interim until 2017 and then the interim is replaced, that'll be 5 presidents in 6 years. Not great for stability, governance and management.


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    #744
    imacman
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭imacman


    RYGCat wrote: »
    So if this is an interim until 2017 and then the interim is replaced, that'll be 5 presidents in 6 years. Not great for stability, governance and management.
    Very true, I think the colleges hands were tied by civil service rules on secondment and so they have to wait out the ex-presidents contract.


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    #745
    RYGCat
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭RYGCat


    imacman wrote: »
    Word is its an internal only appointment to fill the post on an interim basis till 2017 when the seconded presidents contract expires.There is a very strong job criteria so there are very few individuals internally who have the qualifications needed for the post . Its going to be one the members of the executive board , just a question of who now.

    Are you going for the job yourself?


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    #746
    imacman
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭imacman


    RYGCat wrote: »
    Are you going for the job yourself?
    Too much of a poison chalice for me.


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    #747
    imacman
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭imacman


    Although anybody off the street could have done a better job than Ruaidhri Neavyn.
    It stinks to high heaven that he got moved on to another high paid job in the HEA as a special advisor on TU mergers when he didn't even get the merger between WIT and ITC out of the starting gate.
    But being incompetent or having no leadership skills or personality doesn't seem to have stopped Ruaidhri Neavyn getting that job.


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    #748
    Musicman2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭Musicman2000


    imacman wrote: »
    Although anybody off the street could have done a better job than Ruaidhri Neavyn.
    It stinks to high heaven that he got moved on to another high paid job in the HEA as a special advisor on TU mergers when he didn't even get the merger between WIT and ITC out of the starting gate.
    But being incompetent or having no leadership skills or personality doesn't seem to have stopped Ruaidhri Neavyn getting that job.

    This is Ireland at the end of the day. Its not what you can do, Its who you know.


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    #749
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    http://www.enterprise-ireland.com/EI_Corporate/en/News/PressReleases/2015-Press-Releases/Minister-English-announces-winners-of-Knowledge-Transfer-Ireland-KTI-Impact-Awards.html

    Kinda hard to deny them now, isn't it? The usual FG trolls are very quiet on this thread.


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    #750
    PeteFalk78
    Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    7upfree wrote: »
    http://www.enterprise-ireland.com/EI_Corporate/en/News/PressReleases/2015-Press-Releases/Minister-English-announces-winners-of-Knowledge-Transfer-Ireland-KTI-Impact-Awards.html

    Kinda hard to deny them now, isn't it? The usual FG trolls are very quiet on this thread.

    You'll have to explain this post a bit better. I've no idea what you are talking about.


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    #751
    wellboytoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    7upfree wrote: »
    http://www.enterprise-ireland.com/EI_Corporate/en/News/PressReleases/2015-Press-Releases/Minister-English-announces-winners-of-Knowledge-Transfer-Ireland-KTI-Impact-Awards.html

    Kinda hard to deny them now, isn't it? The usual FG trolls are very quiet on this thread.

    Lost me as well, this sure looks like a good news story to me.


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