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    #32
    blorg
    Registered Users Posts: 15,989 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    Lumen wrote: »
    Seven TDF wins is an impressive record, if only for the sheer professionalism of anti-doping evasion.
    :pac:


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    #33
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Listen to these... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055363140
    Here's information on the guy Armstrong went to for 'nutritional' advice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Ferrari
    Here's some interesting reading on the top 10 of the last 9 TDFs http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/tour_de_france_19992008_article_267949.html?aff=rss
    This blog contains loads of doping information and stories. http://cyclingfansanonymous.blogspot.com/


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    #34
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Here's two links from that blog I just posted

    Lance won't answer Lemond's legitimate questions....http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2008/09/greg-lemond-pep.html .... maybe he'll start a new black list of journalists....http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2008/09/27/2008-09-27_will_lance_armstrong_recycle_blacklist_b.html?page=0


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    #35
    Tackleberry
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    Armstrong opposed to sample retests
    Cycling : Lance Armstrong will not agree to a retest of six urine samples from his first Tour de France victory to determine whether they contain traces of EPO. Pierre Bordry, president of the French anti-doping agency (AFLD), had raised the possibility of asking the American to undergo a new analysis of the samples taken from the 1999 Tour.

    With Armstrong set to make a comeback in 2009 after three years away from the peloton, Bordry felt such a move would give the seven-time Tour winner "a chance to confirm that he never cheated in his brilliant career".

    But Armstrong will not agree to the AFLD's request, insisting the matter is in the past.

    "He is not interested in discussing again results from samples taken in 1999," Mark Higgins, Armstrong's media spokesman, is quoted as saying in L'Equipe. "I will refer the AFLD or whoever will ask the questions on this subject to the Vrijman report."

    Higgins is referring to a report, published in 2006 by Dutch lawyer Emile Vrijman, which cleared Armstrong of doping in the 1999 Tour and accused anti-doping authorities of misconduct in dealing with the American.

    His urine samples from the 1999 Tour are frozen in a drug-testing laboratory just outside Paris.



    © 2008 The Irish Times


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    #36
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Tackleberry wrote: »
    Armstrong opposed to sample retests
    Cycling : Lance Armstrong will not agree to a retest of six urine samples from his first Tour de France victory to determine whether they contain traces of EPO.

    "He is not interested in discussing again results from samples taken in 1999," Mark Higgins, Armstrong's media spokesman, is quoted as saying in L'Equipe. "I will refer the AFLD or whoever will ask the questions on this subject to the Vrijman report."

    His urine samples from the 1999 Tour are frozen in a drug-testing laboratory just outside Paris.

    but didn't he just announce.........
    'In an attempt to lessen doubts that his seven Tour victories were won without doping, said: "I want to have a level of transparence and I don't want to leave any hint of doubt. I will do what I am asked to do. It is his (Catlin's) work. He will do whatever he wants (concerning testing).

    Catlin himself said: "Everything will be made public and everyone will be able to see the evolution of the results and see if there have been changes.

    "What will happen? His samples will also be frozen for analysis in several years time if need be."

    http://news.smh.com.au/sport/armstrongs-dope-testing-to-be-public-20080926-4ogt.html
    Armstrong revealed that he would make all of his test data available to the public.

    "I've made myself completely available to everybody - whatever he gets, it will appear online and you can all analyse it."

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/sep08/sep25news2

    So testing from now on counts and testing on the 1999 urine samples is off limits?:rolleyes: This is all very confusing to me.


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    #37
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Good spot Pete. Hopefully some enterprising journo will ask him about that.

    On a lighter note, on what other forum will you find threads about frozen piss.


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    #38
    petethedrummer
    Registered Users Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    In the interest of fairness, an independent investigation found those french lab tests to be unreliable.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/01/sports/othersports/01cycling.html

    Case closed, he definitely didn't dope.:cool:


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