UFO seen in Meath by Garda, Politician & Pilot...

Antrim_Man

Deleted User wrote: »

Can somebody point me to were i can get one of those chinese lantern's ? They look deadly .

go to www.ebay.ie and do a search for UFO sky lanterns and fill yer boots

Scruff

actually forget yer skylanterns it could be an RC kite

I saw these flying at night in sinagpore and was completely mesmerized by them. There were about 6 of them doing acrobatics and flying in formation. The 1st few second i saw them i was saying WTF???!!??!
At night they looked triangular with the lights on them. Was watching them all through dinner on the banks of Clarke Quay. I was going to go over across the river to the guys flying them to see where i could get one but they were gone by the time i finished.
They looked like this

If people here in ireland saw them flying in the middle of nowhere i guarantee ye that they would be reported as UFO's of the alien type

Check out a video here

tiny-nioclas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtFxKP0Z1SQ

Is this the one? looks very real i must admit.

monkeyfudge

tiny-nioclas wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtFxKP0Z1SQ

Is this the one? looks very real i must admit.

No. That's the other one from the Smokey mountains again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb2a2qzcuJE

The original uploader of that has just updated his description actually...

(edit 10-09-2008)
I can not believe how much interest this video has gotten.
To answer a few questions.
The camera was NOT a camera phone
it is a cheap picture camera with video capability. It had no sound.
It only had a 4meg card in it and the video filled the whole card.
It was found along a trail near the North Carolina/Tennessee border.
It was found before the Irish video was announced. I only put it up when I heard about that one because it sounded like the same thing.
A UFO/Paranormal researcher has the original right now. He said he will put the full higher quality video up this weekend on a website. When he does I will come back and post the link on top of this page.
I just heard back from the researcher, and he will have a full update for sure this weekend.

Ricky91t

I'm sure those lanterns things are tied by a rope between a few,saw it on a BBC NI news program about a "Ufo" sighting up there and the presenter said it could be those as they are tied in groups of 3....And cheap camera= Cheap optics could quiet possibly be some form of lens flare....

Antrim_Man

Ricky91t wrote: »

I'm sure those lanterns things are tied by a rope between a few,saw it on a BBC NI news program about a "Ufo" sighting up there and the presenter said it could be those as they are tied in groups of 3....And cheap camera= Cheap optics could quiet possibly be some form of lens flare....

At the end of the day that's what we all believe. UFO's are still a work of fiction as there is still no hard evidence.

Antrim_Man

ANM wrote: »

Hi there.

I heard this story was broadcast on the news this evening, anyone know which channel or radio station? Thanks

FYI you can get Sky Lanterns from www.skylanterns.com

They are expensive compared to ebay.

Try this dude.

lostexpectation

don't know if this has mentioned but robert bigelow of hotel nad put an actual blimp in space fame set up a orgnisation to investigate ufo activity and put out report saying that they looked into and the they huge BLIMPs,using elctrokinetic drives not even solid aircraft as such.

http://www.nidsci.org/ bigelow ufo site
and a suamrry
http://black-triangles.blogspot.com/2007/03/nids-2002-hypothesis-its-dod-blimp.html

they are just blimps and most sightings are near miltary bases...

theres is old military airport at gormanstown isn't there...:)

Scruff

monkeyfudge wrote: »

No. That's the other one from the Smokey mountains again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb2a2qzcuJE

The original uploader of that has just updated his description actually...

fake though.
http://altnews.blogdig.net/archives/articles/October2008/11/Alleged_Irish_Footage_Posted_To_Internet_Is_Fake.html

getz

looks like one of those rusky planes that have been buzzing uk air space [see other thread]

murrayp4

Scruff wrote: »

fake though.
http://altnews.blogdig.net/archives/articles/October2008/11/Alleged_Irish_Footage_Posted_To_Internet_Is_Fake.html

Nice work

BlitzKrieg

i saw the footage of this yesterday at the paranormal convention.

I can pretty much confirm that its fake.

And thats because of two reasons.

1. The three lights that make up the ufo in a triangle shape are not fixed, the triangle changes shape constantly throughout the 30 second clip. Which means they are 3 individual objects rather then 3 lights on a single body.

2. The *laser* is very very fake, it seems to be someone put a single frame of a red line going from one of the lights to the bottom of the screen.

Its fake because a) the laser is physically ontop of the video footage, it has no depth, no texture within the overall image and it runs the length of the screen, not the actual distance. for the path of the laser to make sense the camera would have to be physicallu parralel to the ufo. Which obviously from the position of the lights is not true.

and b) its exactly one frame. the laser fires for exactly 1/25th of a second. Now I wouldnt be an expert on lasers, but I am a professional editor and I can tell you if its extactly 1/25th of a second then its articifical. There's no frame of the laser starting, or finishing, its full bright and red for one frame its not there the frame before hand and its gone the frame after. Reality if the laser was slower or faster then the frame rate of the footage you would have realisticly only caught the tail end of the laser just before it hit the ground or if it was slower then 1/25 of a second you would have only got the upper part and more frames with the laser in shot.

If the laser wasnt in the footage, I might have been more willing to believe it could be a ufo, but the laser is so patheticly fake that I cant ignore the faults in the rest of the piece.


Aside from that, the two men giving the talk were very defensive, I dont think its ever a good idea to spend the first 20 minutes of a talk complaining about skeptics.

Also the most damning pieces of evidence are missing:

1. Footage of more then 3 lights. The proof that its not chinease lanterns is that the number of lights seen (12) is higher then the number of lanterns released (4) but the footage only shows 3 lights)

2. The ministers photos of the ufo were also not shown, and its assumed his was the same ufo in the video, it would be a good comparison.


The other photo they showed was good, but we really didnt get enough time to look at it.

murrayp4

Typical

BlitzKrieg

Typical

typical skeptic or typical ufo video?

lostexpectation

a load of fraudsters

faceman

Altho i missed the screening of the footage i had a chat with the parapsychologist about it and he didnt make for a convincing argument that it was real!

I also asked him if he experienced many chancers in his line of work (he said that he does therapy sessions for irish abductees) and to my surprise he said he has encountered very few chancers. I would have thought it was the other way around.

murrayp4

Typical UFO video

faceman

murrayp4 wrote: »

Typical UFO video

Did it have the standard Jonathan Frakes voiceover?

murrayp4

faceman wrote: »

Did it have the standard Jonathan Frakes voiceover?

'Best Evidence Yet'...

Ricky91t

Anybody read the ireland on sunday?
They suposedly figured it out
Chinese lanterns they say

murrayp4

I'd still like to see the footage though, make my own mind up.

iamhunted

i saw the footage and while I wont say it was fake, I will say I could easily replicate it. I didnt find it convincing.

iamhunted

in the other one with the lightening, the 'ufo' is probably light artifacts caused by the lightening itself

murrayp4

iamhunted wrote: »

in the other one with the lightening, the 'ufo' is probably light artifacts caused by the lightening itself

Is that the pilot's photo?
Anywhere we can see that?

Antrim_Man

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

typical skeptic or typical ufo video?

Who in their right mind actually thought it was real?Whensomeone claims the best footage everyou tend to think " aye right"

Antrim_Man

Antrim_Man wrote: »

Who in their right mind actually thought it was real?Whensomeone claims the best footage everyou tend to think " aye right"

To a skeptic no footage is good enough.

I saw the video also. Going by the video alone i cant say its real or not. For somebody to say its fake is just as crazy as somebody saying its real. You just cant tell.


Chinese weather baloons are being added to my list i call the skeptic list......

Sleep paralysis
Swamp Gas
No proof
Chinese Weather Baloons

BlitzKrieg

For somebody to say its fake is just as crazy as somebody saying its real.

I find that a bit unfair

Bee

Deleted User wrote: »

To a skeptic no footage is good enough.

I saw the video also. Going by the video alone i cant say its real or not. For somebody to say its fake is just as crazy as somebody saying its real. You just cant tell.


Chinese weather baloons are being added to my list i call the skeptic list......

Sleep paralysis
Swamp Gas
No proof
Chinese Weather Baloons

I agree, to present the footage as evidence is useless

To have people with no vested interest explaining that they released Chinese Lanterns at the time of footage being taken is evidence.

On the balance of probabilities I would have to agree that it is wishful thinking by the UFO believers rather than a good examination of real evidence.

Lights in the sky were filmed, look for a mundane source, there is one available the couple releasing the lanterns.

It's a little sad that the UFO folk take have taken a quasi religious view and refuse to accept the mundane answer without any real evidence of a true UFO

Unfortunatly it brings Ufology into disrepute when Ufonut type beliefs are given publicity and useless video footage that is easily discounted is produced as"evidence"

blue42

:rolleyes:to the believer no evidence is necessary......
to the skeptic no amount of evidence is enough!!

Bee

Bee wrote: »

Unfortunatly it brings Ufology into disrepute when Ufonut type beliefs are given publicity and useless video footage that is easily discounted is produced as"evidence"

I spoke to the guys at the convention and they didnt seem to be the type of guys to jump on th alien story. I asked them what they thought it was and they replied it could be secret military craft. If so it shouldnt be there in the first place.
Going by the witness a Garda. There were 3 of them and he only got to film the 3rd one .