Drums !

PaulBrewer

TelePaul's recent Drums post got me thinking.

Would any of you guys be interested in a Drum Recording Day ?

Due to my expansive Droppable Names Index I'm thinking of organising a well known recording engineer and a session drummer in a Dublin city centre Studio for a practical day of Drum Recording.

Neither engineer or drummer would work for free, unsurprisingly!

Would there be enough interest in the idea for lads to cough up a few bob to attend?

TelePaul

drumming is gay

ZV Yoda

Hi Paul,
I'd be interested to see how the pro's do it. Count me in (provided the fee is reasonable enough of course!)

danjokill

PaulBrewer wrote: »

TelePaul's recent Drums post got me thinking.

Would any of you guys be interested in a Drum Recording Day ?

Due to my expansive Droppable Names Index I'm thinking of organising a well known recording engineer and a session drummer in a Dublin city centre Studio for a practical day of Drum Recording.

Neither engineer or drummer would work for free, unsurprisingly!

Would there be enough interest in the idea for lads to cough up a few bob to attend?

I'd also like to attend to pick up a few pointers.!!! count me in too,

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

drumming is gay

Not knowing how to record them is gayer ....

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Not knowing how to record them is gayer ....

Then I guess I'm just a big gay.

frobisher

TelePaul wrote: »

drumming is gay

But no where near as gay as rollerblading.

TelePaul

Jokes aside, I would probably go along if college and funds permitted.

By the by, if you'd all really like to know how desperate I am for a good tutorial on the correct micing of drums, check out 'Drum Test' below!

http://www.box.net/shared/l6h7gx2feq

TelePaul

Also, Paul, will Billy Bragg be there? On the off-chance?

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

Also, Paul, will Billy Bragg be there? On the off-chance?

Billy Bragg? How do you know my Billy Bragg story?

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Billy Bragg? How do you know my Billy Bragg story?

I don't! I just remember from an 'introductions' thread that you worked with him once maybe? Wait, did you do Spy Vs Spy??? If so, What's the deal with all that reverb on 'A New England'? OM the story if you'd prefer, I'd like to hear it.

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

I don't! I just remember from an 'introductions' thread that you worked with him once maybe? Wait, did you do Spy Vs Spy??? If so, What's the deal with all that reverb on 'A New England'? OM the story if you'd prefer, I'd like to hear it.

Did sound for him in the Olympia once- One vocal mic, 2 guitars as I recall .... not too hard!! New England has aged well as a song though hasn't it?

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

New England has aged well as a song though hasn't it?

One of my all-time favs. Hope he plays it in Vicar street!

Is it possible to add a poll to this thread maybe?

studiorat

Met him with Wilco. huh-huh?
So who's this engineer and where's this studio then?

PaulBrewer

studiorat wrote: »

So who's this engineer and where's this studio then?

Dunno yet.... tis only on the drawing board. Are you volunteering?

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

Is it possible to add a poll to this thread maybe?

That's a good idea .... Frobizzle press some buttons there?

i57dwun4yb1pt8

here is my present drum sound in my 8 by 8 home studio - it seems to sound ok in mixes.


http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/90964-drum-dadum-1.mp3

dav nagle

DaDumTish wrote: »

here is my present drum sound in my 8 by 8 home studio - it seems to sound ok in mixes.


http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/90964-drum-dadum-1.mp3

Nice job!

Did you eq the kick? sounds like the low end has been cut off
Verb on the snare? did you apply allot of verb on the kit/snare?
overheads far back? what distance were the over heads?

Toms sound really good

TelePaul

Sorry to hijack Paul's thread but is anyone using the Recorderman method?

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

Sorry to hijack Paul's thread but is anyone using the Recorderman method?

Wha da?

ZV Yoda

DaDumTish wrote: »

here is my present drum sound in my 8 by 8 home studio - it seems to sound ok in mixes.


http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/90964-drum-dadum-1.mp3

Hey Tish... nice!... sounds like those new mics & all that tweaking is paying dividends!

i57dwun4yb1pt8

my room is totally dead except the floor , so all reverb is artificial
and I dont use room mics ( as the room has no usuable sound )
( pity , but its better to have a dead drum sound in a small room
and add reverb later than hearing a crap comby sounding room )

the room is tiny , 8 by 8 by 7.5 high , floated plywood floor , and acosutic traps all over the room
( cos i mix in there as well )

everything is close miced.
its all eqd , nothing too radical though
the kick is has a slight boost at 5k and 1 k , ans a slight boost at 70 or so - I also hi pass it from 30 up.
( mic is an EV 868 - no front head dual ply head with a small towel and weight
again- no point going for a bonham closed head sound in a tiny room .
( this kick was to suit the tune its used in )

Note that the mp3 kills alot of the kick low end - the wavs are alot fuller.

kick snare and toms are compressed

for reverb i put a plate or a small room on the snare
and i put the toms / hats and overheads to a medium room reverb.
kick gets no reverb.

( i dunno if this is best practise ,
but this is how i add life to the kit so far )

the kit is a 13, 16 , 22 1968 ludwig super classic with a home made craviotto solid shell snare .

mics are josephson c42 overheads into a dav bg1 pre in 110 degree ortf ( i think its called )
6 feet above the kick pedal / snare edge panned 75 left right
sm57 snare and ev nd868 into an FMR really nice pre
hats ( beyer m201 ) , toms direct into the mackie onyx firwire desk.

toms are audix i5 on rack tom and akg d112 on floor tom


I have tried the recorderman method and its great , but only in a good room
it needs a good room - cant do it in my room .


hope this helps !

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Wha da?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Fjuz7jXzs

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Fjuz7jXzs

Cool, That string idea is very good..... I must try that....Thanks!

studiorat

3 drumsticks lenght to a mono overhead - Beatles job!

Though I'm diggin xy pairs at the moment so I might try a pair instead next time.