Named and shamed.. Cycle lane rant (with photo)

PurpleFistMixer

Sad to say this isn't a particularly rare occurrance.

So the broken white lines... does that mean a car can drive in the cycle lane too?

Ledgecubed

I know that stretch of road pretty well and to be honest I think it's ridiculous that you would single this out for abuse. For one there are cars parked on this side of the street outside houses all along this road up to this point and this double yellow starts just a few yards behind where the photo was taken. You're already cycling outside these cars so it's not like you are going to have to swerve out of an otherwise clutter free cycle lane into a bustling lane of traffic. Secondly the lane heading into town here is quite wide and there is generally quite a bit of room between the parked cars and any traffic on the road. I have never had a problem cycling this route. Don't get me wrong, I love lambasting motorists for their ignorance but common sense should prevail when you're on the bike (and when you're complaining)!

Gavin

Yeah, a car can drive in the dashed lane. I don't think it means that a car can park in the lane though, even if there are no double yellow lines. The car is still blocking a traffic lane.

Howitzer

Good rant Mr. Meldrew. Need more meldrews out there. car Plan in Rathfarnham used to do this sh1t too. except it was a cycle path (not lane).

Drove me nuts everytime I had to pass. Now I can also see it from their point of view - busy dealership with limited parking space - but tough! that's life. CLAMP 'EM.

And for private individuals parking in lanes / paths - rocket launch 'em.

-Fellow Meldrewist

Danbo!

Verb wrote: »

Yeah, a car can drive in the dashed lane. I don't think it means that a car can park in the lane though, even if there are no double yellow lines. The car is still blocking a traffic lane.

If there is no double yellow line, and a sign saying cycle track 0700-1100 or something, cars can park in it outside the hours. If there is no sign, cars can park in the lane for a max of 30 mins. I stand to be corrected on this.

Howitzer wrote: »

car Plan in Rathfarnham used to do this sh1t too.

So does the dealership next to hollingsworth in templeogue village, despite numerous complaints to the gardai from me.

Danbo!

Here it is - I like the fact that it also says "only if they are loading or unloading their vehicle and there is no alternative parking available" so someone cant just park there for the day and use the excuse "I only got here 28 minutes ago"

Vélo

Lumen wrote: »

Good point. Rubber bollards?

The wonders of Viagra:D

cyclopath2001

Mairt wrote: »

A picture says a thousend words right?..Well what does this one say?.

Emm, let's tally the score so far:

1: Driving on the wrong side of the road.
2: Parking facing oncoming traffic.
3: Parking on a double yellow.
4: Parking on a footpath.
5: Parking within 5 metres of a road junction.
6: Faliure to display tax and insurance?

How many penalty points? (multiplied by the number of cars...?)

Then, there's also a possible breach of planning regulations as that car looks like it's stock for sale, not actually parked by an ordinary road-user.

CDfm

How many cyclists use footpaths instead of cycle lanes.

No lights bells or reflector jackets -dont use the required hand signals - break lights speed limits al kinds of laws.

POt calling kettle et al

Thomas_S_Hunterson

CDfm wrote: »

How many cyclists use footpaths instead of cycle lanes.

Only kids and people before they learn better.

CDfm wrote: »

No lights bells or reflector jackets -dont use the required hand signals - break lights speed limits al kinds of laws.

Bells are useless unless on path tbh...thus useless fullstop.

I use lights and reflectors when dark, as do most on here I'd say, and hand signal whenever there's anything around me.

Speed limits...I wish.

CDfm

Sean_K wrote: »

Only kids and people before they learn better.

Bells are useless unless on path tbh...thus useless fullstop.

I use lights and reflectors when dark, as do most on here I'd say, and hand signal whenever there's anything around me.

Speed limits...I wish.

Sean K - you are in the minority - I see it everyday.

cyclopath2001

CDfm wrote: »

POt calling kettle et al

You're assuming that those making the complaints commit the offenses you mention. (FYI there is no law requiring wearing of reflective jackets while cycling.)

Do you have an opinion about what the car dealer has done?

CDfm

the car dealer is wrong and the law needs to be enforced.

I see so few cyclists using lanes and obeying the rules and if he was convicted thats what everyone would say. And they would be right.

gaffmaster

Would it be going too far to crash into the car while on your bike?

Car dealer would think twice about it if he had a damaged front bumper, dented bonnet and cracked windscreen.

Kamakazeeeeeeee

cyclopath2001

gaffmaster wrote: »

Would it be going too far to crash into the car while on your bike?

Yes.

Car dealer would think twice about it

He'd think the better of it if he saw his nice shiny cars being loaded onto the back of a transporter to the pound.

I think the problem is that there's too many unsold second-hand cars and they've nowhere to store them and are storing them illegally on the street.

Ste.phen

CDfm wrote: »

How many cyclists use footpaths instead of cycle lanes.

No lights bells or reflector jackets -dont use the required hand signals - break lights speed limits al kinds of laws.

POt calling kettle et al

Surely that only applies if a cyclist blocks a busy road while calling the kettle black?

GBX

"How many cyclists use the footpath?"

Thats the problem, with the hatched white lined cycle ways, motorists continually park in these or drive into these while somebody is say perhaps turning right and take no care in noticing cyclists or the fact that theres a track there in the 1st place. So from a cyclists point of view, the footpath is more safer.
Now granted at night/early morning, some cyclists dont brighten up and have total disregard for pedestrians, and should be shot. I sometimes use the footpath when I feel it is safer to do so and never try to intentionally put a pedestrian at risk.

CDfm

GBX wrote: »

"How many cyclists use the footpath?"

Thats the problem, with the hatched white lined cycle ways, motorists continually park in these or drive into these while somebody is say perhaps turning right and take no care in noticing cyclists or the fact that theres a track there in the 1st place. So from a cyclists point of view, the footpath is more safer.
Now granted at night/early morning, some cyclists dont brighten up and have total disregard for pedestrians, and should be shot. I sometimes use the footpath when I feel it is safer to do so and never try to intentionally put a pedestrian at risk.

just by being on the footpath is breaking the law

and you feel safer -what about old people or people with little kids when a speeding tarzan himself wrapped up in helmet knee pads and goggles comes hurtling at them in a huge metal frame.

thats it with you cyclists you want the rules to apply to others but not yourselves

when i was young if you cycled on the footpath the cops could confiscate your bike

cyclists are a menace-but at least you fessed up

good on ya

Overature

those cars are for sale in the photo, they could all be inpounded

CDfm

naH -But hed be delighted if they were stolen or torched. hes a car dealer -nothin is selling.

GBX

CDfm wrote: »

just by being on the footpath is breaking the law

and you feel safer -what about old people or people with little kids when a speeding tarzan himself wrapped up in helmet knee pads and goggles comes hurtling at them in a huge metal frame.

thats it with you cyclists you want the rules to apply to others but not yourselves

when i was young if you cycled on the footpath the cops could confiscate your bike

cyclists are a menace-but at least you fessed up

good on ya

I said on occasion I might. Only reason is because car/van/bus drivers dont pay attention to where there driving or who they see/hit/nearly take off the road.
Drivers of cars/vans/buses are a menace to cyclists. Look at the stats of how many cyclists have been hit/killed by a a car/van/bus/truck driver.

"I never try to intentionally put a pedestrian at risk. ... If I have to avoid using the road/cycle way. I do so for my safety and to get away from drivers with single minded vision, and never put pedestrians safety at risk in the way I cycle.

arybvtcw0eolkf

CDfm wrote: »

naH -But hed be delighted if they were stolen or torched. hes a car dealer -nothin is selling.

Dunno about that.

While some ppl here speculated that I purposely got off my bike just to photograph this, my original intend was to look for a car for my son who'll be 17 soon and in need of a car.

(Yes, he cycles & loves it. But doesn't every 17yr old wanna 'set of wheels').

CDfm

Mairt wrote: »

Dunno about that.

While some ppl here speculated that I purposely got off my bike just to photograph this, my original intend was to look for a car for my son who'll be 17 soon and in need of a car.

(Yes, he cycles & loves it. But doesn't every 17yr old wanna 'set of wheels').

BUY him a car from the dealer only if he promises not to park on the cycle lane

CDfm

GBX wrote: »

I said on occasion I might. Only reason is because car/van/bus drivers dont pay attention to where there driving or who they see/hit/nearly take off the road.
Drivers of cars/vans/buses are a menace to cyclists. Look at the stats of how many cyclists have been hit/killed by a a car/van/bus/truck driver.

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I happen to agree totally about bus drivers - and as a driver I find Irish car drivers lacking in courtesy that you get in the UK. I find van drivers OK.

In the UK a driver who splashes a pedestrian from a visable puddle would get prosecuted and have to pay damages to the pedestrian. It makes people think.

I see loads of Gardai -sauntering around not enforcing cycling rules or policing the roads.

I dont agree with you about the innocent cyclist but I do take your point.

studiorat

Cyclist crusade this mornin' CD? You should have a read of Richard's Bicycle Book!

Yeah! I'll hop up on the pavement now and again, only if it's safe to do so and only at walking speed. A garda will either ignore you or a raised eyebrow will tell you to get off and walk.

It's the same as putting a car on the pavement, sometimes you need to do it to get out of the way. (see OP)

I did get stopped about 15 years ago cycling down the pavement outside the NCH. Hopped off the pavement to pass a Guard and he did me for cycling down the road the wrong way. It was 1 in the morning and I had intended to stay on the pavement cause I was going around the green (to the pub!). Anyway he did me for no lights and no brakes aswell!

So up infront of the beak a few months later, no brakes! she says to me. No judge, it's a track bike, only got a front brake,, the back wheel is fixed blah, blah...
And a light? "Was in my bag, I was staying on the pavement I didn't bother with it. I put it on the bike when I was asked."
"And I hopped onto the road to get past the good garda here!"

Is this true? she say's to the garda. "I dunno I can't remember" says he. So I walked, with a warning I might add.

Shocking! Criminals walking out of the court rooms on a daily basis, no wonder the counrty blah, blah...

As a student of course I couldn't have afforded the fine;)

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Legal precedent. Excellent;)

studiorat

Mairt wrote: »

(Yes, he cycles & loves it. But doesn't every 17yr old wanna 'set of wheels').

I wish you were my Da;)

studiorat

Sean_K wrote: »

Legal precedent. Excellent;)

'solutely!

been going downhill ever since... arf-arf!

Stark

CDfm wrote: »

How many cyclists use footpaths instead of cycle lanes.

No lights bells or reflector jackets -dont use the required hand signals - break lights speed limits al kinds of laws.

POt calling kettle et al

There are plenty of people out there who drive like ***** as well. That's no reason for the rest of us not to expect some kind of standards on the road.

andrewlownie101

seamus wrote: »

Call the clampers. Have them clamp all of the vehicles.

Call the clampers???????????

What planet are you living on. This country is full of proper little hitlers, "good guys" who want to save the world.

Have you ever stood up for your personal rights??? Maybe you should before you turn tout. Touts in the past were dealt with in a suitable fashion.

As for naming and shaming with pictures, this is a violation of privacy, but in todays society where every clown has their sad little life splashed across BEBO, I doubt that even crossed the mind of you lot.